Disadvantages Of A Mad Western Grip

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  1. Feña14

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    My grip is very far western and that allows me to hit with a load of topspin.

    Everyone I ask though tells me to change to a normal western as it will help me.

    I don't seem to have any problems with mine at the moment, what problems should I be experiencing with it? and what advantages will the slightly more orthodox western have?

    Thanks,

    -Liam
     
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  2. gmlasam

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    If it works for you then why change? Are you experiencing any pain? If not, then stay with what works for you.
     
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  3. Kobble

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    How do you try to win most of your forehand points?

    Do you hit many screaming winners or do you mostly frustrate opponents with high topspin forehands?

    Do you have trouble with low balls?
     
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  4. finchy

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    i also use a full western grip. low balls are a pain in the ....well... balls. you have to bend your knees and get pretty low to brush them over the net.

    i guess a more orthodox western would allow you to go through the ball more for more pace.
     
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  5. TwistServe

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    Liam has an extreme western grip, not full western grip. He goes to the point where you can switch to eastern backhand without a grip change (the contact is on the other side of racquet).. Also the unorthadox grip will give him less pace but more spin.

    Anyway, the disadvantage is ..

    - low balls tough to get since the racquet is closed at that angle
    - difficult to flatten out shots
    - hitting deep balls may be hard without goin high over the net
    - switching grips back and forth is slower. I believe liam is a 2hander backhand.
     
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  6. Feña14

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    Well Gorth knows exactly how far western my grip is, it is a lot more western than a full extreme one.

    I like to win my forehand points by topspin, no joke I can get it above a 6 foot person's head and the ball never goes long. I never flatten it out as there is no need for me to do so. I love hitting high over the net aswell as it really adds to the spin as it really dips and bounces really high. I love doing this as I have learnt from Ferrero I just use the angles, wait for the short ball and...... goodnight my friend!

    I also can hit on the top of the ball which acts like a sort of flat but that also really kicks up. I don't have to many problems with low balls as I am often on top of the point and never have to deal with them. I am in no pain, but often frame balls with a racket that is less than 100sqi.

    I dont change my right hand grip either on my 2 handed backhand, It does also help that I am ambedextrous so my left hand can work the angles.

    I think I will stick with it at the moment. My serve is extremely weak though as you can imagine with a grip that extreme! I have loads of spin on serves though which makes up for it.

    I like the way I play and I don't think I could be the same player without it.

    Thanks,

    -Liam
     
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  7. perfmode

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    Why do you serve with your FH grip?
     
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  8. Max G.

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    That's just ASKING for trouble if you play anyone with a good slice backhand...
     
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  9. perfmode

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    Liam, once you start playing with people that are better than you, you're gonna have a lot of trouble digging out those sitters.
     
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  10. finchy

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    actually, sometimes i even have your grim liam. i dont have to switch to a one handed eastern backhand grip. quite nice, but rather awkward.

    i think ill learn semi-western also so i can pound the ball more.
     
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  11. Kobble

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    You should learn to hit through the court more. It may work great at the junior and even open level, but many opponents at the challenger level on up will see the high kicking forehands as sitters. Now, I don't know if you intend on playing for tour points someday, but if you do you might want to make some adjustments. Don't change your overall game, just add some necessary shots so you have something different to throw at your opponent if they are comfortable with high bouncing shots.
     
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  12. ucd_ace

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    If you're having success with I wouldn't worry about changing it. However, you might want to get yourself more familiar with other grips so you aren't so confined. Extreme western grips don't give you much of a chance to flatten out the ball and get a lot of pace when you're in a position to attack. The more advanced your game gets the more you'll realize that this is an important thing to be able to do. Also
     
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  13. Kobble

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    If you are ambedextrous you should develop a Western forehand on both sides. Then you can hit big cross court topspin forehands to your opponents back hand. Your high percentage shot would be their low percentage shot.
     
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  14. gmlasam

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    I agree. Able to master different types of grips in your arsenal would make you a very hard player to beat. You will be much more consistent, and able to return different types of shots given to you by the opposing opponent.
     
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  15. perfmode

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    I play with a SW primarily but if I get pulled wide, I can use a continental to get the ball deep and low. If the ball kicks high, I can switch to a western to get a lot of spin to pull it down.
     
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