Disappointing rackets for 2005

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  1. barry

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    My biggest disapointment in new rackets this year was the Head Flexpoint Tour. Shoulder and wrist problem after 2 hours of play.
    Not an issue with the O3 Tour.
     
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  2. fishuuuuu

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    They changed the Radical from it's true 18 x 20 roots too!
     
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  3. Marius_Hancu

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    you mean, the O3 Tour?
    good to know.
     
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  4. progman_2000

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    Since my biggest disappointment is the O3 Red, I am assuming also he is talking about the O3 Tour!
     
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  5. barry

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    Yes I meant the O3 tour, it played better than the Flexpoint Tour.
     
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  6. bounce-hit

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    The Flexpoint Tour hurt my shoulder also, which I didn't expect given its stiffness rating. I also wasn't crazy about the Aeropro Control Plus, which was a very uncomfortable hit.
     
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  7. Marius_Hancu

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    The only thing I can find in the specs:

    Flexpoint Tour
    Strung Weight: 12oz / 340g
    Balance: 8pts Head Light
    Swingweight: 324
    Stiffness: 58
    Beam Width: 21 mm Straight Beam
    Composition: LiquidMetal Titanium / Graphite and Piezzo Electric Fibers

    is that Titanium.

    I tend to avoid it.

    Even if the stiffness is not high, I am not sure how the vibration spectrum is modified by its presence.
     
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  8. BLiND

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    Prince Diablo XP
    Head Flexpoint Radical
     
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  9. DXS

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    Babolat APD+ (could not feel the ball on the strings no matter how I set it up)
     
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  10. peter

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    Dunlop Maxply McEnroe

    For me that is (but then I hasn't tested that many rackets this year). I had read a number of posters saying that it was a good racket, but when I tested the one I bought (dirt cheap so I'm not too annoyed :) I rather quickly noticed the vibrations when going all-out with that one. It's good at the net though.
     
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  11. kumat63

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    Yeah, but the LM Prestige has LM Titanium too and I find that a very soft and comfortable feeling racquet despite being rated stiffer than the FP. It is a mystery why so many find the FP Radical to hurt the arm--could it be the Flexpoint thing?
     
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  12. pro_staff

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    APD+ and O3 tour
     
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  13. DANMAN

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    Head flexpoint radical again
     
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  14. Muse

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    Aeropro Control. I thought the Aeropro Drive was a respectable racquet so I expected good things from the Control. It just felt like a club.
     
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  15. thejuice

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    Did you put a vibration stopper on the strings? I think the Maxply is a great stick and doesn't have any vibrations with a vibe dampener.
     
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  16. peter

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    At first I tried it without the dampener (I normally play without those on my Wilson PS6.0-85 rackets - and also now on the Dunlop HM 200G that I bought at the same time with the McEnroe) - it was horrible! It's slightly better with the dampener but not perfect.

    But it might be due to how I hit my groundies (hard, pretty flat). If I backed off a bit on the power then the racket was better though. And very fast and responsive at the net! (Too bad I mostly camp at the baseline though :)
     
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  17. bagung

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    o3 red..... the biggest disapointment
     
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  18. kreative

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    i felt that the m-fil 200g was a dissappointment, just like the hm before it. also had high hopes for the apd, but just felt so boardy to me.
     
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  19. jonolau

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    Head Flexpoint Tour.

    When I first bought it, I thought it would be quite close to my C10 Pro. But everything was out of whack and was tempted to flog it off at half price.

    However, I experimented with increased swingweight and now it's my main racquet.

    So, a happy ending to a tragic beginning.
     
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  20. ssjkyle31

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    Ncode90 when compared to the tour90
     
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  21. joe1987

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    N series. Where did all those great hammers go???
     
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  22. Rabbit

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    Snauwaert Ergonom, I really thought this one would take off...
     
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  23. dannyjjang

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    how much lead did u apply? jonalu?
     
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  24. jck01

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    That's what happened with my Volkl C10 ProTour. I didn't like it. It felt too head-light. The volleys were okay but it didn't have the punch that I was used to having. My serves were very weak. But, after I put lead tape on the racquet it feels terrific, except for the serve, which I'm still working on by putting more lead tape on the racquet. :)
     
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  25. mctennis

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    jck01, I'll buy that horrible C10 PT from you. You probably need a good racquet instead of that horrible C10 PT. Let me know what you'll get rid of it for. I'll take it off your hands. I need something to beat my rugs with.
     
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  26. Da One

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    M-Fil 200, O3 Tour, O3 Red
     
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  27. brian.sat

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    Most disappointed is O3 tour, even I didn't have any expectation after POG.
    Flexpoint Radical Tour is by far the best. Best for old-school players who can generate enough power.
     
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  28. The Pusher Terminator

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    I jusr ordered a couple to because they were so cheap. You are the first person I have heard give bad reviews. Can you tell us about your experiences with the Mcenroe in a little more detail?
     
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  29. tonysk83

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    How about all the flexpoints since they were basically just dressed up liquidmetals.
     
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  30. The Pusher Terminator

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    Is there a tour 90? I did not see it on TW.
     
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  31. Swan Song

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    ssjkyle31 was referring to the Pro Staff Tour 90 that came out in the middle of 2003.
    In regarding this topic, did I find any disappointing racquets in 2005? Pretty much none since I have not demoed hit with most of them yet except the O3 Red, which I thought was good.
     
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  32. NoBadMojo

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    I think the Volkl 9 VE was a bow wow.
     
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  33. rfprse

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    flexpoint radical tour & o3 tour.
    Maybe my expectation was too high.
     
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  34. I don't agree at all. Adding the flexpoint finally makes the liquidmetal technology worthwile - adding more control and touch (and making it easier to keep difficult defensive shots in bounds) while not sacrificing power. Playing with the FlexPoint 4 has improved my game considerably to the shock of my steady partners that now expect to lose as much as they used to expect to win. (This after owning the racquet just for a matter of months). :cool:
     
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  35. jonolau

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    Rather than experimenting with weights on my C10 Pro and affecting stability at the net, I opted for a different string (Gamma ZO Sweet 17) and that changed things quite dramatically on my serve.
     
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  36. jaykay

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    Totally agree with 'WhatBackhand?'. Whilst I agree there is huge marketing hype around racquet technologies (flexpoint, nanocode, piezoelectric fibers, triple threat braids and whatnot), the flexpoint thing really worked; atleast for me. I demo-ed a bunch of racquets and found the FlexPoint 4 giving me awesome accuracy/precision, power, control as well as maneuverability at the net... much to the consternation of my opponents.

    I just bought the Head FP4 with the Head FiberGel 16g strung at 59lbs (which took a healthy-sized bite out of my wallet). Defly don't think that the Head FP4 in particular or Flexpoint technology in general, qualify for the most 'disappointing racquets for 2005'.
     
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  37. kaztennis

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    Totally agree! I'm an old school player and my main racquet it Flexpoint Radical Tour. I demoed the 03 tour and it was a big disappointement as I didn't like the feel/feedback.
     
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  38. fastdunn

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    I've read some people have problem with FXP.
    I've head FXP prestige for 2 weeks and no problems what so ever.
     
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  39. mark rodgers

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    The Dunlop Maxply is one of the better racquets that came out in 2005!
     
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  40. josef

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    yeah.. my vote goes to Aeropro Control. I couldn't buy a good shot. it just felt bad to me... ah well.
     
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  41. prorain

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    Head flexpoint prestige. didnt like it at all. gave me arm problems.
     
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  42. badmice1

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    Mfil 200, O3 tour, and in some ways the nCode Tour 90 because it was marketed as a player's racquet that nobody can play with.
     
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  43. Kevin T

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    Rabbit,

    All you need to do is change the grip out for leather and put a little lead at 10 and 2...perfection!!
     
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  44. skraggle

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    All these people badmouthing (and badmicing) my beloved M-Fil 200s is making me angry, and when I get angry I just go BERSERK! (Tom Laughlin, Billy Jack, 1971)
     
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  45. SFrazeur

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    The N6.1 90 is not a disappointment of 2005 that no one can play with.

    It came out in 2004. :cool:
     
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  46. cghipp

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    Head Flexpoint Prestige. The only Prestige I've ever disliked. Both my shots and my wrist suffered with it.
     
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  47. Court_Jester

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    Good to know that I'm not alone in my opinion about the O3 Tour. I had very high hopes about this racquet when I demoed it but I absolutely hated its feel. What a disappointment!
     
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  48. Duzza

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    Yeah Flexpoint.
     
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