Djokovic #1 next year?

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  1. Frankauc

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    I think so. He's playing awesome tennis right now. And he's rarely injured seriouslty. And also, he's very good on all the surfaces.

    Fed's getting old and has no more things to prove
    Nadal's always injured
    Murray too
    Del Porto should be the other one to watch next year too..
     
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  2. Vyse

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    nah, not good enough in majors especially as of late
     
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  3. edmondsm

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    He hasn't brought the goods when it's counted in a while. He and Murray, they need to be able to get past Roddick at a slam before they are going to be #1.
     
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  4. Bjorkman & Johnny Mac

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    Agreed with the poster above me. For Djoker to be number 1 is going to have to bring it when it matters most. He hasnt thus far in quite a long time
     
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  5. Frankauc

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    I agree he didnt performed very well for his talent in the past slams. But i mean, RIGHT NOW, he's playing awesome tennis and i think next year he will win at least 1 slam. Rolland Garos, and USO or AO.
     
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  6. bluetrain4

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    I actually think his physical limitations in best of 5 matches over 2 weeks is "real." I always used to think he was overplaying his injuries/fatigue, or it was just an on-the-spot incident, that wouldn't resurface. But, he really does tend to struggle in longer matches and moreso as a Slam gets into the second week.

    So, no to No. 1., but I still think he's good enough to win another Slam.
     
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  7. MuseFan

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    Yet when it's major time, Fed steps it up big time and has bagged 2 Masters this year. He hardly plays ATP 250/500 events at all.
     
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  8. Feña14

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    He beats Federer and now he's going to be number 1?

    Murray was beating Federer for fun this time last year, it doesn't make you number 1.

    There is a chance of him getting to 2 at some point but I can't see him getting the Major that would launch him to the top.
     
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  9. P_Agony

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    Djokovic didn't even reach a slam final this year.
     
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  10. Max G.

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    C'mon, he beats Federer in one event and suddenly he's the next #1?

    All of the guys just behind Federer - Nadal, Murray, Djokovic, Del Potro - have beaten him. And on bigger stages than a 500 tournament, too.

    He's certainly in the running for #1. He's very consistent, and if he could raise his game in majors by just one notch he could get there. But so could others. Murray's in the same boat, very consistent but not good enough in Majors. Del Potro's the other way around, he raised his game for a Major but has many more early losses than the Murray/Djoko. Nadal has both the consistency and the top play, but gets injured. And, of course, Federer is right now the #1.
     
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  11. Blinkism

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    It's not likely he'll be #1, but anything is possible.

    He's not defending much at the French Open and he can improve on his AO and Wimby results.

    And picking up a Master's title doesn't seem so unlikely after today.
     
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  12. Djokovicfan4life

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    All aboard the band wagon!

    Just watch, if he loses early in Paris everyone will be saying he should retire.
     
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  13. Cesc Fabregas

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    Djokovic is going to OWN federer next year.
     
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  14. edberg505

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    LMAO, boy you really hate Federer don't you. I guess once he starts owning Federer then Djokovic can be Federer's main rival.
     
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    You really are the clown like you admit you are. Bow down to king cuddles.
     
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  16. GustafsonFanatic

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    Del Potro never beat Djokovic.

    On topic, Djokovic will not be No.1 next year.
     
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  17. Cup8489

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    LOL at serena being the greatest in history. LOL
     
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  18. cuddles26

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    If Serena at her best was put up against Graf or Navratilova at their best outside of clay, Serena wins. End of story. By the way Graf in her final year on tour when she was still champion and runner up of her final 2 slams got her ass kicked in by a baby pre-prime Serena who was nowhere near the player she would be from 2000-2009 yet.
     
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  19. It's a possiblity...
     
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  20. LiveForever

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    I hear that one a lot. Doesnt bother me because Federer always takes care of Djokovic at the big tournaments. 3 beatings at the USO while Djokovic only beat Federer once at GS.
     
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  21. THESEXPISTOL

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    Take it easy pal.. The guy won a ATP500 event and now 'he's the next big thing'?
    You cannot be serious. The guy is a choker at the slams and is constantly overplayed in the big moments.
     
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  22. Max G.

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    Sorry, I meant Federer. Everyone was making a big deal of how Djokovic had beaten Federer, and I was pointing out that Del Potro, Murray, and Nadal had ALSO beaten Federer in the past, indicating that by that logic, there would be four #1s next year!
     
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  23. Ripster

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    I don't think he'll be #1 but he's a threat at all the Grand Slams. I think he has a good shot at the Australian.
     
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  24. Frankauc

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    where did you guys see that i say Djoker will be #1 because he beated fed today? I mean... everyone can beat Fed, especially in the top 5, and Simon. I never said last year that Murray was going to be #1 because he beated fed so many times..

    i'm saying it because i think he is improving his game and he is playing awesome right now. He wasnt quite there at the beggining of 2009 but i have the felling he will be ready for the AO physically. He cant keep losing because of bad conditionning.

    He's got some of the best, if not the best combinaison of spin and power in his strokes in the entire game.
     
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  25. IvanAndreevich

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    Someone plays a match with 10 winners and 22 UE's and you say they are playing awesome? In his previous match he had to save 3 MPs against Stepanek? Wow you have some low standards.
     
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  26. Frankauc

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    Kudos to him saving 3 matchs points against a player like stepanek who can beat everyone when he's on. And tennis is a game of errors, it's just a matter of who makes the points when it counts the most. Making more errors than UE dosent mean you play bad, not at all. You cant play bad and win a final against fed in basel
     
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  27. oy vey

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    Don't know about #1 but he'll have a lot better 2010 than 2009.
     
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  28. Gugafan

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    He is probably the second best HC player based on form, so there is no reason why he cant contend at the Aus or US Open. Agreed by his standards, he has had a poor run in the GS this year but he is certainly not a GS novice compared to Murray. I think his Aus Open win and in doing so beating Federer is often overlooked, certainly no easy feat. Along with consistent SF and F runs at the US Open the past few years(only to be stopped by Federer).

    With Nadal looking out of sorts after injury and Murray unproven at GS, I would actually put Djokovic ahead of them as a legimite contender for the no 1 spot next year.
     
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  29. kishnabe

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    It;s funny how people jump the gun here!
     
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  30. IvanAndreevich

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    Yes you absolutely can play poorly and still win. Did you even watch this amazing match?

    On, and Stepanek making an UE is not really Djokovic "saving" BPs. Saving is hitting a winner or forcing an error. Or defending like crazy.
     
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  32. NamRanger

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    A good example of this was the Federer and Ferrer match in Cincinnati. Hahahahahahahahahaha....... absolutely hilarious.
     
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  33. Frankauc

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    i repeat, tennis is a game of errors. It's not Djokovic's problem if Stepanek made UEs on BP or MP, he was just the one who didnt make them on very important points.

    And djokovic didnt played bad at all. Give credit to stepanek, he dosent give his opponents any rythm.

    And by the way, im not talknin about these specific 2 matches. Im talking about the genral form djoker is in right now, His game is a lot better than at the biginning of the year
     
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  34. Kick Serve 14

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    nope... djokovic will never be number 1...
     
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  35. Winners or Errors

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    Surprised at the little mention of the career GS retirement slam he is working on. Seriously, I'd love to see Djokovic win, but I'm not sure if whatever physical issues he battled last year that forced his retirement at the AO are still there. If he has overcome them through training, I believe he has the game to be number 1. Only time will tell.
     
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  36. Dean

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    I think it's possible but unlikely. It seems that he and Murray do well in small tourney's which in the end count for little. Most only remember what happens in the Grand Slams so Federer and Nadal will get all the credit.

    I know he won in Australia but that just seems like an eternity ago and was just basically a blip or interruption in the on going Federer show.

    Also he continues to be viewed as 'soft' for all those grand slam retirements, sighting blisters or exhaustion or it was too hot(you're a professional athlete you nob... deal with it) as well as complaining that the crowd was against him so he may as well give up.. or some other lame excuse. lol
     
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  37. Agassifan

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    Andy Murray OWNED federer this year. Fed made 4 slam finals and won two. Last i heard, andy murray went to one semi.
     
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  38. Agassifan

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    Djokovic can do serious damage, but he is not a very good best of 5 player. But we said the same about Delpo and look what he did. Never know. In terms of "talent" the list is

    1. Fed (but he is definitely on the wane)
    2. Djoker
    3. Murray
    4. Nadal

    but Fed and Nadal know what to do with it in big time tournaments.
     
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  39. Halba

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    if he can max out his game more and go for broke like in late 2007 to early 2008, and in 2008 masters cup, he can get it, provided he bags a HC slam and a few MS and MM. but i don't think he is tactically a great grass player nor does he have the physical ability on a clay court. those are 50% of the slams. his style of play is superb on a hard court however.
     
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  40. Bud

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    Nadal has a positive H2H against each of those guys you claim are more talented than him :oops:

    Nadal 13-7 Federer (65%)
    Nadal 14-5 Djokovic (74%)
    Nadal 7-2 Murray (78%)

    Please think before posting in the future.
     
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  41. chaddles

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    No, no, no and no. Djokovic is not good enough to pass Nadal and Fed next year. His first serve is an absolute joke and not good enough to get him there next year.

    And as for Fed.... I don't think he really couldn't care about tournaments this time of the year. If you wonder why he is looking a bit fatigued, he has 2 newborn kids for gods sake!!! He is only 28 and still moves exceptionally well - even if he dropped a step or 2 that would bring him back close to the top. Can't believe people are on his back about age.
     
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  42. zagor

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    Good grief,I like Nole's game(and yes I'm also from Serbia)but this forum is such bandwagon jumping it's ridiculous.He needs to do better at the big tourneys(slams especiall)before we consider him a validate candidate for #1.

    I do like that he seemed to have played more agressive recently which is what brough him his biggest success in the past and the fact that working with his new fitness coach(he hired him at the beginning of clay season I think)has definitely paid off,he really seems more fitter than ever although I still think he should cut down the # of tourneys a bit and try to peak for the big ones.
     
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  43. The-Champ

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    Djokovic? Hell no! Murray will kill him.
     
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  44. Djumex

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    It's possible if he continues to work hard... like he does!

    His game is not complete yet.....If he had half of the net rushing instinct that Roger....or for example, Stepanek showed in their last match.... he would be very very hard to beat.....he needs to learn to end points at the net more often.
    His baseline game is good enough for every surface....he just needs to add that "net element" to end the points he basicaly, already, won with his gorundstrokes.....yet...he so often stays behind for another insideout....and another....and another..........
    That is why good defenders like murray or nadal give him so much trouble.

    anyone agree?
     
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  45. grafselesfan

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    I sort of agree although the net game isnt that important these days. It still would be nice to see him improve that aspect though.
     
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  46. Just because he won in Basel??
    LOL...
    Im not even gonna comment on this any further
     
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  47. Djumex

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    Plz don't then! There is not a single post in this thread that implies that, but you just have to be a troll!

    It's obvious you are incapable of commenting anything regarding Djokovic objectively.
    Why do you watch tennis anyway?
     
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  48. Arailic

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    I am a Nole fan but would not jump to conclusions that he will get to #1 just yet! He still has two more tournaments to end the year and than next year will be a different story I guess............ He must improve his GS performance next year with finals and maybe a GS to even be taken in consideration for the 1st spot in the future. Time will tell......
     
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  49. Who put a coin in you??
    Ny understanding about tennis is a lot better than yours, trust me.
     
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  50. sh@de

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    The point is that if he improved his net game he'd be able to avoid making mistakes at the baseline, so in this respect, net play is important.
     
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