Djokovic and Nadal have both reached 18 GS finals but Nadal has converted 4 more slam finals.....

[Fedalforever]

what it tells us. @Djokovic2011

Edit: mods edit title if possible.

I mixed up Sampras' and Nadal's stats.

 

[Sysyphus]

djokobak week in the hed.

nadal gowt.

 

[torpantennis]

USO 10/13 say hello

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Call me drunk but I am sure Nadal reached 20 GS finals.

 

[Fedalforever]

Oh yes Nadal is 14-6 isn't he. Djokovic is 10-8. So Nadal has played more slam finals but lost fewer :O

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Yep, only Sampras has a more impressive conversion ratio in finals when it comes to the most decorated Slam champions.

 

[Fedalforever]

Serbian warrior king N0le's 10-8 is very impressive tbh. Would easily take it above Sampras' 14-4.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

He probably could have had a slightly better record. But considering he turned 6-7 into a 10-8 in only a year and a half, I am not complaining.

 

[xFedal]

Yep, only Sampras has a more impressive conversion ratio in finals when it comes to the most decorated Slam champions.

Thats only because he din't reach RG finals loool. I don't take Sampras record serious man. Imagine if Fed din't make any RG finals? Imagine Nadal din't make 5 Wimby finals.

 

[xFedal]

Serbian warrior king N0le's 10-8 is very impressive tbh. Would easily take it above Sampras' 14-4.

Sampras can't even make RG finals which screws the conversion numbers.

 

[Fedalforever]

If Fed and Nadal didn't reach RG/Wimby finals they wouldn't have the career slam. W/L ratio in GS finals would not offset that(unless you started watching tennis in 2011 and are a n0le fan)

 

[Fedalforever]

Sampras can't even make RG finals which screws the conversion numbers.

I agree. Sampras not making RG finals is why he has won 14 non clay GS finals.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Thats only because he din't reach RG finals loool. I don't take Sampras record serious man. Imagine if Fed din't make any RG finals? Imagine Nadal din't make 5 Wimby finals.

16-6 and 12-3 are pretty much the same as 14-4. Anyway nobody knows how would he convert in FO finals if he played them.

 

[xFedal]

I agree. Sampras not making RG finals is why he has won 14 non clay GS finals.

Let me word it for you so that you may understand, Sampras never made any finals at RG, it is a fact that clay was his worst surface and had he made few finals there he would lose there quite a few times.

 

[Krish872007]

Meh, Nadal has been CRAPOLA the past year, his knees are shot. Healthy Nadal would've already done the CYGS and surpassed OVERRATED Fed.

(Lolololol)

 

[Russeljones]

It tells us Djokovic is more capable of reaching finals that are not on his favourite surface.

 

[xFedal]

16-6 and 12-3 are pretty much the same as 14-4. Anyway nobody knows how would he convert in FO finals if he played them.

Nadal would have an impressive 80% compared to 77% OF PETE.

 

[Fedalforever]

Let me word it for you so that you may understand, Sampras never made any finals at RG, it is a fact that clay was his worst surface and had he made few finals there he would lose there quite a few times.

I agree with you brah. Disregarding RG, Sampras is 14-4 and N0le is 10-5. As you rightly point out, Samoras' record is only better because he couldn't reach RG finals.

 

[xFedal]

It tells us Djokovic is more capable of reaching finals that are not on his favourite surface.

Very perceptive of you. This is just the begining in achievements that Novak has over Pete, both are tied at 18 finals 14-4 and 10-8. 1 more final and Novak will go ahead.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Nadal would have an impressive 80% compared to 77% OF PETE.

3% is not a huge difference you know...

 

[Fedalforever]

It tells us Djokovic is more capable of reaching finals that are not on his favourite surface.

7 non HC finals for N0le vs 11 non clay finals for Nadal.

 

[Krish872007]

Pete was the GREATEST big match player in the Slams. He kept his closest rival Agassi to under double-digit in Slam total and turned it on when necessary. Unlike this generation of MUGS, he was a true HERO on court - played on through injuries, illness and thalassemia.

 

[xFedal]

3% is not a huge difference you know...

But it would put him No.1 in the ranking for the best conversion.

 

[Fedalforever]

But it would put him No.1 in the ranking for the best conversion.

But leave him without a career GS and slam wins on only two surfaces

 

[xFedal]

7 non HC finals for N0le vs 11 non clay finals for Nadal.

There are 3 slams outside RG but there are 2 slams outside HC. Not a fair observation dear.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

7 non HC finals for N0le vs 11 non clay finals for Nadal.

The difference is there are 2 non HC Slams, while there are 3 non clay Slams. More chances to reach non clay finals.

 

[xFedal]

But leave him without a career GS and slam wins on only two surfaces

Yes i know I was just showing that Pete record isn't all that impressive considering Nadal would be 12-3 if he din't make Wimby finals.

 

[Fedalforever]

There are 3 slams outside RG but there are 2 slams outside HC. Not a fair observation dear.

I could see that coming but Russell brah mentioned surface. Why didn't you disagree with him then? And brah your argument can be flipped around and said overall that should give Serbian warrior king N0le more opportunity to reach GS finals because he has 2 slams on his favorite surface dear

 

[Fedalforever]

The difference is there are 2 non HC Slams, while there are 3 non clay Slams. More chances to reach non clay finals.

True but don't you agree that's offset by the fact that Novak has more chances to reach GS finals overall then as he has an extra slam on his surface....besides, it was RJ who mentioned surface. I was merely responding to him.

 

[xFedal]

I could see that coming but Russell brah mentioned surface. Why didn't you disagree with him then? And brah your argument can be flipped around and said overall that should give Serbian warrior king N0le more opportunity to reach GS finals because he has 2 slams on his favorite surface dear

Dear Fedalforever, Don't worry he already has 7 Hard court slams. Nadal is at a measly 3.

 

[NatF]

Pete was the GREATEST big match player in the Slams. He kept his closest rival Agassi to under double-digit in Slam total and turned it on when necessary. Unlike this generation of MUGS, he was a true HERO on court - played on through injuries, illness and thalassemia.

If not for thalassemia a disorder which causes FATIGUE, Pete would have won a FO. He beat clay greats like Courier and Bruguera on the SLOWEST clay ever. If he got to play on today's faster clay he'd have a shot at 1-2 FO's.

 

[Fedalforever]

Dear Fedalforever, Don't worry he already has 7 Hard court slams. Nadal is at a measly 3.

I agree brah but how is this relevant.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Sampras is the true moral victor. His more emotional and pseudo-intellectual fans are convinced he'd have won well more than 20 Slams had he not been a giant mug relative to his insane potential levels.

Nadal is only a prince compared to Sampras.

1-2 FO's is cutting Sampras short (IMO).

 

[Fedalforever]

Sampras is the true moral victor. His more emotional and pseudo-intellectual fans are convinced he'd have won well more than 20 Slams had he not been a giant mug relative to his insane potential levels.

Nadal is only a prince compared to Sampras.

1-2 FO's is cutting Sampras short (IMO).

+1 sister. Good poast.

 

[xFedal]

Sampras is the true moral victor. His more emotional and pseudo-intellectual fans are convinced he'd have won well more than 20 Slams had he not been a giant mug relative to his insane potential levels.

Nadal is only a prince compared to Sampras.

1-2 FO's is cutting Sampras short (IMO).

3 is enough for him, he will outdo the second best clay courter of this generation Djokovic and the 3rd best claycourter Federer too.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

True but don't you agree that's offset by the fact that Novak has more chances to reach GS finals overall then as he has an extra slam on his surface....besides, it was RJ who mentioned surface. I was merely responding to him.

Yep, and he took those chances. He stands at 11 HC Slam finals, tied with Sampras and only one short of record holders Federer and Lendl.

 

[Krish872007]

If not for thalassemia a disorder which causes FATIGUE, Pete would have won a FO. He beat clay greats like Courier and Bruguera on the SLOWEST clay ever. If he got to play on today's faster clay he'd have a shot at 1-2 FO's.

Heck, he won Rome as well, which was PRACTICALLY the FO back then - destroyed an ATG like Becker in the final. He would DESTROY this overrated group of chumps, probably beat this CRAPOLA version of Nadal and then choking Nole in the finals.

 

[xFedal]

+1 sister. Good poast.

Interesting way to spell.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Heck, he won Rome as well, which was PRACTICALLY the FO back then - destroyed an ATG like Becker in the final. He would DESTROY this overrated group of chumps, probably beat this CRAPOLA version of Nadal and then choking Nole in the finals.

Is this your usual off-season mode or does the power of 90s clay compel you to talk like this?

 

[Sysyphus]

3 is enough for him, he will outdo the second best clay courter of this generation Djokovic and the 3rd best claycourter Federer too.

On clay:

Djokovic < Gaudio < fedr (< hypothetical Sampras)

 

[Fedalforever]

Yep, and he took those chances. He stands at 11 HC Slam finals, tied with Sampras and only one short of record holders Federer and Lendl.

Good fair post. One of the few fair Novak posters here. Despite our disagreements you seem a good poster, sir. Good day.

 

[Krish872007]

Is this your usual off-season mode or does the power of 90s clay compel you to talk like this?

90's Clay was a God among men - unlike the tour itself, he would aim to peak during the off-season. I am inspired by his spirit, which was revived this morning by @NatF

 

[NatF]

Heck, he won Rome as well, which was PRACTICALLY the FO back then - destroyed an ATG like Becker in the final. He would DESTROY this overrated group of chumps, probably beat this CRAPOLA version of Nadal and then choking Nole in the finals.

He practically SINGLE-HANDEDLY won the Davis Cup away in Russia on the slowest clay court ever constructed. With this PATHETIC clay field Pete would be cleaning up.

 

[xFedal]

On clay:

Djokovic < Gaudio < fedr (< hypothetical Sampras)

Okay hopefully when Nole wins RG you will change your standings?

 

[NatF]

Sampras is the true moral victor. His more emotional and pseudo-intellectual fans are convinced he'd have won well more than 20 Slams had he not been a giant mug relative to his insane potential levels.

Nadal is only a prince compared to Sampras.

1-2 FO's is cutting Sampras short (IMO).

Nadal might be the best player of the Open Era, he would be already UNDISPITED if not for Djokovic. Federer is LUCKY that he only MUGDICK during his peak years.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Good fair post. One of the few fair Novak posters here. Despite our disagreements you seem a good poster, sir. Good day.

If everyone would put their bias towards one player aside, we would all have amazing conversations all the time.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

MUGDICK.


... LOL.

ROFLMAO ETC.

 

[Fedalforever]

If everyone would put their bias towards one player aside, we would all have amazing conversations all the time.

Who wants to have serious convos on the net? Our lives are serious enough. Trolling FTW

 

[Sysyphus]

Okay hopefully when Nole wins RG you will change your standings?

If...

Time is slipping away, son.

 

[Krish872007]

Nadal might be the best player of the Open Era, he would be already UNDISPITED if not for Djokovic. Federer is LUCKY that he only MUGDICK during his peak years.

Totally agree. Pete's SPIT (maybe Nole's and Nadal's as well) is worth more than this current tour!