Djokovic doesn't win the US Open - Disaster?

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  1. BeHappy

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    To dominate smaller tournaments and fail to players he's been dominating at both the French and the US Open would be a disaster wouldn't it?
     
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  2. Clarky21

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    He will win it easily. Don't worry.
     
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  3. svijk

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    disaster ??? smaller tournaments??? are u kidding me......masters are pretty significant tournaments. and oh by the way he won Wimbledon and AO beating the big 2 ....not sure if you know the meaning of disaster
     
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    It would be terrible to lose in the really historically important events to people you've been comprehensively dominating throughout the year. Off the top of your head can you tell me how many Masters titles John McEnroe won?
     
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  5. Evan77

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    I don't get this. what small tournaments? he won 2 majors plus 5 masters this year. I'm scratching my head right now.
     
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  6. svijk

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    oh so Masters don't matter ??? why don't u ask Mardy Fish ..lol

    Djokovic himself would expect that he might lose, there are no guarantees....its a tough sport but even he will not consider it a disaster if he lost....so why should you.
     
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  7. Mainad

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    According to Wikipedia, he won the equivalent of 19 titles between 1978 and 1985, second only to Lendl who won 22. The Masters series officially didn't start until 1990.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_Masters_Series_records_and_statistics
     
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    It is more than a disaster. It is the end of the world, Apocalypse, Dooms day...etc

    Let me explain. This isnt just because Djokovic didnt win at USopen. The very fact that he lost one more match is all thats needed to trigger this scenario.


    On a different note, per TW standards, Djoker shouldnt be on pedestal of favorites any more. He lost a match at Cincy.didnt he?. In this parts of the world, GOATS are decided based on one exhibiton match results let alone a regular tour match.
     
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  9. BeHappy

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    See if anyone remembers Mardy Fish winning a masters in 10 years time


    Exactly, you had to go to Wikipedia. Everyone knows he's a multiple Wimbledon and USO champion though. That's the difference.
     
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    let me make this simple for you since you don't get logic.....

    Its NOT a Disaster to lose a tennis match especially if you have had such a fabulous year :). Disaster is what is happening now due to the hurricane
     
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    That's interesting. Just curious, which year would you prefer:

    1. Lose at lots of masters and atp events, win all 4 majors. (like Rod Laver in 1969)

    or 2. Be Djokovic and lose the USO and finish the year 83-3?
     
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    "Everybody knows" a lot of nonsense about athletes in their favorite sport, whatever it may be. Some of what they know is irrelevant.

    What the average casual fan thinks of a player's career is not necessarily the most important thing.
     
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    now this is a different discussion dude.....you are asking if point 2. is a disaster and I'm saying its not... even a 5 yr old can understand it
     
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    it certainly wouldn't be a disaster. However, Only winning two majors this year when he has completely and utterly dominated the field would be a bit disappointing for him.
     
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    He will and I will and so will lots of other tennis nerds! :)

    Sorry, I took your question too literally (the nerd in me). But if, by everyone, you mean us tennis nerds and the general public...all of us will know that John McEnroe won many titles in his career including many Grand Slams. But only us tennis nerds will know precisely how many Slams,which ones they were, and how many other Master equivalent titles he won.
     
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  16. Mainad

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    Djokovic not winning the US Open will hardly be a disaster. He's won 2 Slams already this year along with 7 other titles. Shoulder permitting, it would be a surprise though if he didn't get past the early rounds.
     
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    LOL....It only a disaster if Djokovic didn't win any slams this year.

    Maybe next year we will see....
     
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    From your wording, you mean it will be a disaster if he loses to Nadal in the final. So it will be a disaster if Rafa wins the USO.

    Hmmmmm.... you could have a point.....
     
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    To really legitimate his claim as a GOAT he needs to end the year with no more losses. Shame he lost focus at the FO, he could have a true grand slam.
     
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    Every slam final for the next 5 - 10 years is a NADAL - DJOKOVIC lock.

    This US Open is a lock for Djokovic.

    They might as well give him the trophy now.
     
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    End of the world as we know it.

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    Disaster? LOL. 99.9% of tennis players would gladly take such a "disaster" with the year Djokovic has had.
     
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    To win two slams a year is great, I think his best chance will always be AO as the courts are slow to meduim then its just one of the other three from there.

    I really think he can win two slams a year from this point on for many years to come!!!
     
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    No, it wouldn't. Roger also won only 2 slams in 2005, a stellar year even by his standarts.
     
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    Disaster? You mean like a hurricane? :)
    Djoko still has 5 masters and 2 slams for the season and he's unlikely to lose #1 even if he loses at USO. That's the kind of disastrous season everyone would love to have.


    ETA: to give you some perspective, Djoko has currently 9 titles and the second most successful player of the season (Rafa) has 3.
     
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    and Fed only won 4 masters in 2005.
     
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    It certainly wouldn't be a disaster in the true sense of the word, as we're all pointing out in some amusement.^^^ Djoker's had an extraordinary year, well earned, and no one can take that away from him.

    Nonetheless, it was on hardcourt, Djoker's territory, where Nadal finally won his precious career slam last year - while on Djoker's watch, no less! Last year's US Open had to weigh a bit heavy on the mind of our Serbian lad. :)

    I suspect Djoker's feeling extra fired up to take it "back." But if he loses it again, and especially to Nadal, well...it'd be a little embarrassing.
     
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  28. celoft

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    Why a disaster?

    Fed's 2005 was anything but a disaster.

    Sampras, Borg, Agassi, JMac, Lendl never had years where they won 3 slams.
     
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    Like Djokovic already humiliated Nadal by whooping him 5 straight times this year? All of them in finals? Nothing could be more embarrassing than that. :oops:
     
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    Embarrassing? That's ridiculous. So Rafa's W loss to Djoko should have been embarrassing? Because Rafa had way more expertise on grass than Djoko and he was the favorite.
    The truth is they're the 2 best players of the season but as it stands, Djoko's is vastly superior to Rafa's. If Rafa won USO, it would make him equal to Djoko in slams (which would totally delight me) but it would still be 1 master vs 5, so no matter what happened at USO, Rafa would remain the 2nd best player of the year (unless he also won WTF of course :))
     
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  31. celoft

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    I tell you what would be more embarrassing: Nole beating Nadal at all the slams from now on. On the biggest stage. :oops:
     
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    The result doesn't matter as long as the tournament goes on.
     
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    My point exactly, dear Clarky. If Djoker lost to Nadal after all that - in the US Open, no less - it'd be quite the downer for him. And, apparently, for you, too.:twisted:
     
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    Wow,are you delusional. Djokovic losing one final to Nadal(it will never happen anyway) out of 6 is not embarraassing for Djokovic. Novak has made Nadal look pathetic this year. He has humiliated him big time,and I'm not so sure Nadal will recover mentally from it.
     
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    I doubt it. Clarky admitted to hating Djokovic in another thread :neutral: (The thing is he hates Nadal as much :-?)
     
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    Clarky's a Djoker Lover in sheep's clothing.
     
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    Lol he sure doesn't post like one :mad:
     
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    You need to read.
     
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    What I've read hasn't convinced me yet. Maybe he's a Fed fan.
     
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  40. Outbeyond

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    He's/she's pure Djoker...tries to pretend he/she ain't.

    But Clarky's kinda reactionary, too. Tea Party-like.
     
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    Wow (Keanu style :))
     
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  42. BULLZ1LLA

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    (It will be a disaster, especially if Nadal wins it, that makes it 2 slams for Nadal in an "off-year" clear sign he's on the way to 16)
     
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  43. Tony48

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    "Disaster" is the wrong word.
     
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    It's hilarious how Fedal longterm dominance affects people's expectations of players. No, if Novak fails to win a single match for the rest of the year his season would have still been fantastic.

    To be honest I don't see him winning USO, I think he's burned out, mentally and physically.

    Nadal isn't having an off year.
     
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  45. NadalAgassi

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    Who else can win it. Federer and Nadal sure as heck arent winning it this year. You really think Murray will win it since that is the only other feasible possability.
     
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    I don't think so. I think Djokovic is hungry for more. Once you get on a winning streak it becomes addictive and the more you win, the more still you want to win. Don't think he is quite ready to get off the roller coaster ride yet. It just depends on how the other top three play at the USO. Based on recent months it sure looks like Djokovic will win it to me at least, but it's tennis so who knows for sure.
     
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    Actually yes, my pick is Murray and I don't think I ever picked him as a winner for any other slam up until now.

    My second pick is Nadal.

    I don't doubt for a moment that he wants to win USO badly(motivation is not the issue) but his body language in Montreal/Cincy and his performance against Murray in Cincy final lead me to believe that he overplayed, his dominance this year has taken it's toll IMO. If he skipped Cincy(which he should have done) he would have been my pick.
     
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    Yep.. probably the only year he'll have a shot at a true calendar year GS. He'll be kicking himself if he wins the USO

    Too bad, so sad :)
     
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    Since when was Montreal Cincy a good indication of the UsOpen winner? Same thing was said about DJoko once he lost to Fed in RG and then went on a break. Everyone was writing him off Wimbledon, and look what happened.

    I can guarantee one thing: It will take the best match of their career for someone to beat Djoko. I don't trust Murray to do this in slams, and Nadal lately doesn't seem to have any answers for Djokovic.

    The only remaining possibility is Fed, provided he has one of his crazy serving days. Even then Fed will have to hope for Djoker to a bit off. But yeah, Fed probably remains the only player on tour who can beat Djoko's A game at this time..
     
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    That's interesting. So Nadal has to beat Lendl's 22 to be the actual holder of that record.

    In earlier days though, Masters were not publicised as such.
     
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