Djokovic is gonna destroy Murray/Fed in the final.

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  1. steenkash

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    Murray deserved the 2012 US Open, why are people still debating he had a slight advantage? Firstly the weather conditions are the same for all players and as for Djocovic getting less rest, wasn't he the same guy that went 6 hours with Rafa Nadal, after a 4 hours semi final with Murray (2012 AO). Whoever faces Novak in the final, it should be an intriguing encounter.
     
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    Ferrer has nothing to hurt Djokovic with on a hard court and was in pretty poor form (he almost lost to Almagro on a hard court in straight sets). Djokovic IS in amazing form though, definitely the favorite in the final IMO. It won't be so one-sided if Federer and Murray play well though.
     
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    With 6-2, 6-2, 6-1 win in the semi-finals, beating Ferrer in 90 minutes, neither Federer or Murray can match that.
     
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    Maybe they will conspire against Djokovic and one of them will tank. :twisted:
     
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    Yup, Djokovic to straight set Mugerer or Mugray.
     
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    Really? no faith on the golden eagle?:(
     
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  7. steenkash

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    Djocovic to win the AO in 4 sets, against either Murray or Rodger.
     
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    I see it the other way. If Fed is on his A game and attacking he can pressure Djokovic. Murray, just a less talented version of Novak who will crumble under the onslaught.
     
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    God mode Fed can easily beat Novak at his best.
     
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  10. steenkash

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    Although both great players, this is what separates them. If Murray was under a Warwinka backhand onslaught, he would pack his bags and go out of the AO.
     
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    Not much should be taken from the Ferrer SF. He has no weapons to hurt Djokovic with. But Murray is a bigger threat to Djokovic than Federer is. Having said that, Federer has a chance, but it's not as good as Murray's. I also think people are underselling Murray. If Murray gets to the final, Djokovic is only a slight favourite, say 60/40 IMO. In regards to the USO SF, he never destroyed Ferrer by scoreline, but it could be said that Ferrer won the first set of that match easily because Djokovic's head was too worried about the wind that day, and when they came back Djokovic destroyed him the next day in perfect conditions which will be the case on Sunday basically. So there are similarities in how much everybody is overblowing Djokovic as the runaway favourite. He is the favourite, but not by as much as most people seem to think, especially if he gets Murray.
     
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  12. NadalAgassi

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    Since his U.S Open win Murray has lost to Djokovic twice on faster courts which give him a much better chance than these courts, and Djokovic won a huge mental match in Shanghai saving all those match points. I think giving Murray 40% to actually beat Djokovic if he reaches the final is very generous, 25% absolute max (personally I think less than that, the only thing I agree with is he still has more chance than Federer would have).
     
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  13. Djokodal Fan

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    there is only one man who can beat Beat Ferrer like Novak did and that is Federer. Murray for his life cannot beat ferrer 2,2,1. So advantage djokovic from a form standpoint.
     
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    I can 100% say with confidence that if there was no wind or if the conditions were ideal Djokovic would have dismissed Muzza in 4 sets.

    Djoker just seems to struggle with wind. heck he even lost a set to the mighty ferrer only to destroy him the next day under ideal conditions.

    Djoker will fight tooth and nail under ideal conditions. If everything is normal I expect Djoker to beat Murray in 4 if he passes federer test.
     
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    And I can say with 100% confidence that if there were no wind - Murray would still have won. I'd be talking rubbish of course because there's no way of obtaining that level of certainty - but I'll say it anyway.

    I guess we're both entitled to our opinion - what I would say is that the wind didn't blow in set 5 and yet remarkably enough, Murray broke Novak 3 times.
     
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    Roger beat Ferrer 6-2 6-3 6-2 at the 2007 WTF final.
     
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    Lol...just what are the 'ideal conditions' for Djokovic to play in? Maybe if there had been no wind and the conditions were more 'ideal' for Murray, he might have won in straight sets!

    Well, boo-hoo! If he can't cope with a bit of wind, maybe he shouldn't be playing? Federer and Nadal and most everybody else seem to cope all right. If they can, so should he. He'd better start learning.

    Maybe he will. But if he doesn't, I don't expect anybody to try and blame it on 'the conditions'!
     
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    Lance Dopevic is unbeatable......unless he has severely depleted his stash.
     
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    What makes you think he is doping.
     
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    I can say with 100% confidence that Djokovic is going to school Murray or Fed in the final. The reason I am so confident in my prediction abilities is because I have a gift for these things. A friend challenged me to say with 100% confidence whether a coin toss is going to be heads or tails and I was right almost half the time. That means 50% of the time, my 100% confidence is validated!
     
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    The dude never gets tired
    He went from being the 6 stone weakling of the tour that couldn't play more than 3 sets in the heat without being dizzy, to superman in 2 months
     
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    You're too cool for school, that's for sure.

    Djokovic will be lucky to win games against Fed/Murray.
     
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  25. Gonzo_style

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    somebody missed AO 2011....
     
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  26. steenkash

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    He had insufficient nutrition, due to celiac disease. Which is a allergic reaction to gluten.
     
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  28. Clarky21

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    Nadal beat Ferrer 6-2 6-2 6-1 at RG last year. He also bageled him in Rome last year as well.
     
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  29. Clarky21

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    Lance does NOT have celiac disease. Stop the bs.
     
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  30. Gonzo_style

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    You're his doctor?
     
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  31. steenkash

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    Why would I mention it? Look it up, Djocovic does have celiac disease. Do you even know what it is?
     
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    Cinci '12 Final anyone?
     
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    Canada 2007?
     
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    I'm obviously kidding, but nobody is going to care how hard Djoker tried against Ferrer if he loses in the final, and it is far from in the bag.

    Wait until its in the bag, and then troll the forum, not the other way around.
     
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  35. steenkash

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    If we are talking about hard court matches then 2012 tour finals anyone, I was in the stadium watching Nole play some brilliant tennis.
     
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    The 2011 was the destruction time...but they're caught unprepared
    This time around...nah, don't think so
     
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  37. Clarky21

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    Is Steenkash? Funny how you accept his/her post as gospel but then question mine.

    If Lance had celiac disease he would be in sad shape. Celiac disease is debilitating, and Lance is far from debilitated in any way. Do your own research and find out for yourself.
     
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  38. Gonzo_style

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    You're exaggerating with that Lance thing, but you become angry when someone accuses Nadal.
     
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  39. steenkash

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    What? the symptoms of celiac diseases varies from person to person, in some you hardly have the symptoms yet are not absorbing the glugen intake.
     
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  40. Steve0904

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    So I've noticed you haven't answered her question. Nice way of deflecting the issue there.
     
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  41. Clarky21

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    Wrong(as usual). I have more times than I can count said that I think they ALL dope. None so blatant as Lance, though. Nobody makes the physical transformation he made in a month's time without some hefty pharmaceuticals.
     
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    Exactly. He won't answer because he has no idea what he's talking about.
     
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  43. Djokodal Fan

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    there are couple of factors added to US open final. Djoker had to play against Ferrer the previous day(almost full match since he had to win 3 sets against his pegion). Back to back days are always tough.

    No excuses though....but that might have played a factor since he looked so exhausted in set 5. There is only so much freakovic can run. But I agree with you....there is no certain way of telling what might have happened.
     
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    Glad he managed to overcome it. Were his breathing problems related to that as well?
     
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    You mean windy conditions? It is not considered ideal. But to each of their own


    Yes he should, otherwise he will have this problem time and time again since US open is played in September and its almost always windy. No excuses



    At RLA, there is no wind factor which may work in his favor. We just have to wait and see how it pans out!
     
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  46. steenkash

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    lol sorry for being annoying :), but I don't get the term 'pigeon'.
     
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  47. steenkash

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    Low nutrition, high exercise so it wold be related.
     
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    Lance does not have celiac disease. He.does.not.have.it.
     
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    That's why I hope it will be Djoko/Murray in the AO final. Djoko is fit, fresh and match ready. Let's see what difference it will make in the final. (My own assumption is that the USO's disastrous schedule messes up with outcomes in general).
     
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  50. Djokodal Fan

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    Roger Pederer is the one to blame since he started doing it right from 2003. Amazing that a 31year old can stand toe to toe with Dopevic even in the the *** end of his career?

    Pederer is the one who taught tennis world how to dope without getting caught for more than 9 years.
     

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