Djokovic: 'New diet helping me win'

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    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/26042011/58/djokovic-new-diet-helping-win.html?page=2&order=date#co
     
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    Novak, sickness of the GLUTEN ALLERGY, before 2011. After the sickness. Novak always becomes in a slump. Love Novak? :confused::confused::confused:
     
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    Novak became the sickness of the gluten, still always love nole.
     
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  4. JohnnyCracker

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    slump love Novak of gluten sickness always before and after
     
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    Still, always love Novak :D
     
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    Yep now that Novak is in shape, Nadal will no longer be number 1. Bye bye.
     
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    This would explain a lot of the problems he had before. I bet he feels much better in general.
     
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  8. Murrayfan31

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    No pasta or bread though. That's a tough one.
     
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  9. namelessone

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    How can he make it without carbs? :-?
     
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    gluten free, pure class, love Novak
     
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  11. Carbs in grain form are pretty useless. They break down into sugar in your body. In fact, I've long thought this was one of Nadal's problems as he is a major sugar addict and gets all of these joint problems (and early hair loss is associated with insulin resistance which coincides with heavy carb intake). He's stated he believes you can eat whatever you want and be fine, which is the farthest thing from the truth. Look up things like the paleolithic diet etc.

    So it looks like Djokovic has wisened up. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he dominates 2011 now. Seriously.

    Also, once you stop eating things like bread and pizza, after awhile not only do you not miss it, but it starts sounding kind of gross.
     
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    lol you can have carbs but they'd have to be gluten free.
     
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  13. Bartelby

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    What about spelt bread and pasta? Very nutty and all right for most gluten intolerant.
     
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    The paleo/caveman/hunter-gatherer diet is pretty limited and not for everyone but you can lose a lot of weight on it in the first month or so. I just have a hard time with diets that say that so many things that grow in the ground are bad. Over processing is bad, but sorry, I don't see how potatoes, corn, beans, and grains are inherently bad if you aren't allergic to them.
     
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    what is gluten?
     
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    a component of wheat would be my short answer, but that is probably not entirely correct so I would say google it for accuracy. :)
     
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    Federer should do a test to see if hes allergic to gluten as well. Maybe he will dominate 2012 if he cuts gluten.
     
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  18. babbette

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    I figured as much.In the Djokovic news thread I did say he looked leaner.
     
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    I don't buy it, there are things a doctor can give you and help monitor to increase performance and stamina so suddenly.

    But it isn't some simple change in diet, nor would you need the doctor to travel around with you to do that.

    No carb diet!!! LMAO
     
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    He seems to have celiac disease.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

    Common among Europeans.

    My friend had it. He had severe stomach pains everytime he ate something with gluten.

    He could eat pasta but only pasta made out of rice.
    He couldn't eat pasta made from wheat.
    He also couldn't drink beer because of the yeast so he drank potato vodka instead.
    Very surprising this problem wasn't found sooner for Novak.
     
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    Just saw this today. My entire family are gluten intolerant and the most common symptoms are fatigue, weight gain and along with many others. I can definitely believe this story because once you've basically detoxed and changed the diet, you feel 100 times better. Djokovic is my 7-yr old son's favorite player and will be great to have someone to look up to with the same dietary issue he has. It affects 1 in 133 people out there.
     
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    yea, sorry guy, but you're totally wrong. not trying to be curt about it, but if you've got celiac disease or gluten intolerant, its not a passing fad. the only treatment is to change your diet and not a prescription. there are many gluten free products out there that replace the wheat with other flours. and therefore carbs.
     
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    There are substitutes for regular wheat bread, for instance potato bread, which is gluten free. Also there is gluten free pasta.:)
     
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    I think it's not so much the gluten but more the stopping of eating crap that made him better.

    too many pro athletes still eat crap like fries, pizza or hamburgers.
     
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    and Redbridge Beer that's made by Anheuser. there are a couple of other brands out there like Bards, but Redbridge is the best. i had some friends over that can drink regular beer and they raved about it.
     
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    I am not saying he doesn't have some type of food allergy, that wasn't my point.


    I suspect there is a little more to the sudden performance gain than just a change in diet. You don't need a doctor traveling around with you everywhere for just a diet plan.
     
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    lets see novak win a slam outside of hardcourts, then these predictions might make sense. These are just silly excuses from you to diminish nadals accomplishments.
     
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    Gluten is the new tennis GOAT, DEAL WITH IT!
     
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    Are you a moron? Carbs turn into sugar in your blood. This causes things like high blood pressure and diabetes. It also weighs you down. Protein is much better.
     
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    I'm surprised. Novak is 6'3", most people with Celiac Sprue are short and can't gain weight.
     
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    You're an idiot. Maybe if your fat as s went on a diet you would realize it.
     
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    Is Nadal taking notes of this?

    Djokovic is getting faster/fitter by eating well using the latest advances in medical science.

    Nadal, OTOH, seems to be getting slower and bulkier. I think Rafa needs to lose a few pounds before RG/Wimb.. That should protect his knees too.
     
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    And have him abandon his precious quelys biscuits? :shock:
     
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    If I went on a diet I wouldn't need a full time doctor to travel with me to do it, your an ignorant fool, if you buy into this spin.
     
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    Congratulations, we have a new category of **** now, a Diet-****.

    Someone who gets bent out of shape over a diet plan, LMFAO.
     
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    White potatoes are devastating to your body. They cause a massive spike in your blood sugar levels that can lead to diabetes over time.
     
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    That's not what he said?

    It's understandable people give more attention to his diet change than anything he said, as it sounds more sensational.
     
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    for folks diagnosed with celiac that is a pretty common trait, but there are people who are gluten intolerant and with the diet change feel much, much better. in the last few years, researchers have determined that you can be intolerant and not have celiac. doesn't sound like djokovic does have celiac. my family does. i agree with a poster above, people are focussing on the diet, but i suspect it's a sea change. he's finally devoted himself 100% and the diet is a fraction of it, but he's finally living up to that potential most people knew he had. wasn't too long ago where he'd just check out and go away in a match (last year's Wimbledon). it's a different guy out there @ Indian Wells and Miami. he has the belief and it will be interesting to see how he does on the dirt. i think he's got a legitimate shot at the top spot. time will tell. i think this is a good lesson for the up and coming junior players. you may have the game, but if you don't devote yourself and put in the hard yards and live/eat healthy you're not going to break through. mardy fish is another prime example.
     
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    i go to health food stores and the organic section of the supermarket and there's more and more non-gluten bread products
     
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    Well.........

    While I agree with you that diet alone was not the entire cause of his speedy improvement, it can play a major part. Lendl used to have his blood tested monthly to find out where he was deficient at for maximum performance. He would then have his chef prepare the required meals to bolster any missing nutrients.

    Some foods or food combinations can actually impeed performance if they don't agree with your system. Once you eliminate the culprits, you will perform better very quickly. Add that you better practice and renewed confidence and you can have a substantial gain in overall performance.

    Cheers, TennezSport :cool:
     
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    Did you know that excess protein is stored as fat?
     
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    Fair breasted Novak Chia Headed Serbian man of God bathes forth in a bath of Pizza Hot Pockets shaped and formed by Mirka herself high on the mountain tops of Basel laying near the streams of Love and of Life she preps and cooks the Pizza Pockets for her GOAT lover and Chia headed pet Nolay pure Pizza Hot Pocket classy and glutton free nothing but love for Rogi and nothing but like for Nolay.
     
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    Quit being a flamer. Carbs (sugar) are worthless.
     
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    Look at what most athletes eat before a sporting event.

    Some form of pasta,fish or a combo are very common.

    But hey, what do those nutritionists know. Pozarevacka knows best.
     
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    They aren't bad for you.
    Paleo is a nice diet. It is a great way to control caloric intake.
    Traditional high carb, low protein, low fat diets can work wonders too, provided the person controls caloric intake.
     
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    No, they are not worthless.

    Carbs are far more important than protein. The brain functions on carbohydrate. Ever tried no carb diets? What is the first thing that happens? Mental acuity goes out the window....you cannot think straight.

    Excess CALORIES are stored as fat. If those excess calories come from protein, they will be stored as fat. If those calories come from fat or carbs, they will be stored as fat.
    Protein requirements are very minimal. Most endurance athletes consume mostly carbohydrate. The amount of protein consumed is small. Why? Because the amount of protein required is small.

    It is very easy for an athlete to function and perform eating a diet with no more than 15% of caloric intake from protein.
    It is very difficult for an athlete to function and perform eating a diet with no more than 15% of caloric intake from carbohydate.
     
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    Is this life-threatening? Or just a simple matter of affecting his performances in a few Grand Slams here and there?
     
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    You're just trying way too hard. :roll: Good for you if you haven't suffered from any kind of disease in your life, but that doesn't mean these comments can be less offensive.
     
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    Yep, he will have to give up the biscuits and make other sacrifices if he wants to be in the top 2 tiers of potential GOATs.

    That said, I was also thinking Nadal must be suffering from some lack of motivation. He's already been on the tour for 9 yrs, won tons of money (2nd only to Fed) and LOTS of career titles. So who gives a flying f*** about the no of slams.

    I mean, I don't see the same kind of intensity/urgency/motivation from Nadal these days, that I used to see in 2008, AO 2009 etc. If he did, he would still find a way to win.

    Although to be fair, one can hardly blame him, coz historically this is common among teenage prodigies..
     
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