Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Thud and blunder, May 22, 2012.
Not trying to be harsh , but it's a portmanteau not an acronym.
Uniqlo clothing is mostly good albeit at the better value and slightly skinny end of the spectrum. It would be cool if they made some attractive well priced sportswear.
Andy Murray should replace Djokovic as the face of Sergio Tacchini. Then he might have a Djokovic 2011 year.
That was good.
Djokovic's Rome Tacchini outfits fall into the category of - "What the heck were they thinking??" Some of the ugliest designs ever. In fact, I think EVERY Tacchini outfit Djokovic has wore since day one has been pretty awful.
Tacchini has come out with some pretty bizarre stuff over the years, including Sampras' "Archer" shirts and McEnroe's "Red, white, and blue" striped sleeves shirts.
So wrong...according to Sportspromedia.com Djokovic is the 7th most marketable athlete in the world--and the highest rated in tennis. Everyone was making a bid for him. Uniqlo just came up with the best package for him.
Didn't they just sponsor the Rome Masters? The ST name and logo were all over the back of the courts.
Look Djokovic two years ago was a nobody tennis no. 3 in the world. Now he is no. 1 and riding on the historic run last year. His status has changed quite a lot since the time he was with Adidas. Many youth love him and will buy his clothes and that is the biggest market segment. Your opinion and knowledge of 100 people at your club has no value whatsoever.
Think about it tennis is a global sport. I heard the commentators in espn last week said that Rome people love djokovic more than roger and nadal. They will buy what he wears.
I highly doubt that. I don't think there's any dispute that Federer is the most marketable player in tennis. His Nike RF line is everywhere. I'd bet he has more sponsorship deals and makes much more money in endorsements and deals than Djokovic does.
That's because he wears an Italian brand and he speaks Italian.
Besides, I heard more spectators cheering for Federer than for Djokovic during their Rome semifinals.
he should sign with reebok!
I like their style ... too bad.
You are very funny, a specialized company in sports media makes an study and makes this list and puts Djokovic in 7th position and you: "highly doubt that"... that is really funny.
That has to do with Adidas, they forced Reebok to all but pull out of tennis (Almagro the lone player still with Reebok).
So eastern European will love him more since he is Serbian and 199x generation will love him more since he is closer to them in ages, right? Spectatators cheered for Federer because they want to see more. Federer used to has the best marketing appeal but it is in the decline meanwhile Djokovic will still be in his prime for a couple of more years. He probaly never reach the peak of Federer but at the moment I bet that he has more marketting power, especially to younger generations.
Wrong again...Federer did not even make the list of the Top 50 most marketable athletes of 2012 because his marketability is viewed to have peaked and is in fact on the wane. For your info Nadal was #27 and Murray was #36--both behind Sharapova. Again, Djokovic was the highest listed tennis player by a huge margin.
I don't like Uniqlo, if that's what they offer in polos:
Staid. So is Nike.
Tacchini has style.
The prices for Uniqlo on the above page aren't expensive.
Heck, why are we talking about this? Uniqlo isn't even at TW in Apparel
This stuff for Nishikori is just OK:
What Tachinni created for Djokovic was plain ugly, the other players sponsored by ST have better looking apparel.
But Nadal's line is always ugly too.
Fed's is nice sometimes, half of the time, but it's Nike, low quality (not the real ones He wears), and is everywhere. Me don't like it,
Since it's Japanese, I would be willing to buy, I respect Japanese manufacturers a lot, Asics, Mizuno and Yonex are what I like.
Is this apparel made in Japan or in China? (I'm guessing it's in China, correct?)
Some interesting combinations on this page:
hey, i'm not singling out tacchini . . . to me, no one company is thrilling me. tacchini has been in tennis forever, so they've had more time than most to throw out some bad design. i gotta say, some of their worst stuff has been for novak: the hot wheels collection, the dragon line . . . argh.
but the others are just as guilty. adidas? they have to be the worst offenders (in my mind). their color choices and random places to put a design element. nike? they won't be happy til they exhausted every neon color known to man (and some still undiscovered). i grab random t-shirts and whatnot from both, don't get me wrong. but their tennis-specific stuff just doesn't do it for me.
I don't buy this for a second. I have also read that he is not as marketable as either Nadal or Fed,so no way he is the highest rated in tennis. That's just complete bs.
I'm guessing this is where you got this info. http://www.sportspromedia.com/notes_and_insights/50_most_marketable_2012_-_novak_djokovic
I would like to see the data that backs up what this Michael Long says. I still doubt he is the highest rated in tennis. He is not nearly as popular as Fed or Nadal so I fail to believe what this guy is saying.
Djokovic doesn't even make the Top 10:
Yet, in an article just published yesterday, they list Federer as the most marketable with the most endorsement deals of any male tennis player:
"Estimated Net Worth: $150 million
Arguably one the greatest (and most popular) tennis players ever, the Federer era may be nearing its end- he’s been passed by both Rafael Nadal and Novak djokovic in rankings. But Federer still has the most impressive endorsement portfolio with deals including Nike,Rolex and Wilson."
Neither Djokovic nor Nadal even made the list.
Tacchini have been making terrible looking outfits recently, what happened to the days where they made some of the best looking outfits around?
The clothing today seems cluttered and a confused mess.
According to this article Distribution also:
Given the exchange rate, 78.95, going to be interesting what they price his gear at. And how fast Uniqlo can make deals with the big retailers?
It just shows how self centered Novak Djokovic really is. After Sergio Tacchini signed him, he does this! Djokovic chose monetary value over the relationships and the growth of Sergio Tacchini. Real classy individuals like Federer sign lifetime deals, and dont look behind. Novak Djokovic, what a shame of a player.
^^^^^ Seriously? If you're not getting paid, the contract is breached. I'm impressed he went as long as he did.
I know I am wasting my time here but I am going to do it anyway. This is not what we were discussing. These are lists for the highest paid athletes, NOT the most marketable athletes. Totally different, the last one talks more about the future of the athlete not the current situation, but I guess you already know this ...
I will never buy any more Uniqlo.
Djokovic must be the least marketable no 1 ranked player in history
Please stop while you still have a tiny thread of dignity.
Exactly. If Nike wanted Rolaids they would have signed him.
The future isn't worth a dime. Djokovic could break his back next year and be forced to retire from tennis. What's important is who's the most marketable NOW. And guess what, Federer will still be VERY marketable even after he retires. He's an icon who's image will last for decades. Think Jack Nicholas or Arnold Palmer.
Oh, and Federer is the highest paid tennis player BECAUSE he is the most marketable. So even though Djokovic made more prize money last year, Federer still made a lot more total money because he was more marketable and made much more money in endorsements.
I am very suprised Nole didnt land with Nike. Fed is at the end of his career and Nadal cant even speak English and has too many ocd tics to be a brand ambassador and popular to the US. Nole is well spoken and charismatic like Fed and I thought Nike would have signed him immediately.
I wonder if all of this behind-the-scenes business turmoil has affected Djokovic's concentration and performance on the court this season. As Nadal said recently, it's all about the little things.
The future is worth more than a dime for sure, specially for big companies, otherwise why young good players get sponsored even though nobody knows who they are? and what I meant with future is that in order to be a highly marketable individual your expected future performance should be high, been in this list doesn't even mean that you are going to be rich in the future or you are rich right now, but that it is expected that you will be an extraordinary individual in an specific field. On the other hand been the highest paid athlete means that you are getting tons of money right now. Of course Fed is going to be highly marketable after he retires, who is saying he is not?
Some people would say anything just to win and internet discussion ... moving on.
Let me guess, is this more reliable information from the same trusted sources as before? :lol:
Nice one. You can add these little extra qualifiers but you backed Babolast to the hilt and he was wrong on a Nike deal being done and dusted.
This ^... It's so funny, even at the Rome final when they show the crowd there was literally a person wearing a RF hat in every shot. I was really surprised to see some kid wearing a Tacchini hat.
That falcon line he worse by Adidas - ditto. It's been nothing more than bargain bin fodder wherever I've ever seen it.
Yeah i do feel they are better than HEAD Logo Dampener XD
This is a post in support of you jokinla, yet another poster who was routinely abused by Dr352i in the other thread which, as it turned out now, was based on fabrications (and eventually deleted after the protagonists went crying to the moderators).
Well.... apparently now 2013 is the actual destiny date with Nike. :lol: :lol:
I'm happy to let this lie until then but, at this stage, a couple of posters should rightly be wondering if "reliable source" actually means what they think it does.
the question now is whether TW would sell Djokovic's new clothing brand
I almost traditionally strongly disagree with you. When you sign any athlete you basically try to capture FUTURE cash flow that is expected to be created by that person. When you sign 10-year deal you do not about now - you care about, guess what - future.
Why Adidas signed Murray is beyond me. Talking about buying signature lines of clothing?! Bizarre.
Meh. Mark your calendars...in two years he'll switch again. Adidas needs to ante up and get Novak back on the payroll.
I don't care what brand he wears, as long as it is nice in terms of quality, style and price. I loved many ST designs, but they were too damn expensive. Only ST set I got was one from early 2011 for players other than ND.
Ah I recall the days when ST & Fila went at it. Back when they were exclusive pro shop lines actually MADE in Italy. Sigh.
And how did that 10-year contract work out for Sergio Tacchini? They got burned by the future, didn't they? What's the old saying? Oh yeah - "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"?
"At last I am freeeeee"
(This thread shows why TT needs a rule: No more than 10 posts a day per user!)
I am italian (and live in Italy) and old enough (41 yrs) to say that the ST Djokovic stuff was not of good quality if compared to the ST clothing that people like Cash or Wilander used to wear. In my town there is one store selling it ,and I could see how bad it was (not too mention the ugly design, imho, and the prices not really cheap) . I was surprised seeing him signing for this brand, since I did not even know its existence.
So true, I love Nike and Adidas. But that doesn't mean other brands cannot play part.
But in case of Djoker, why do I have a feeling that this guy will have more than 10 brands endorsed by the time he retired, he just don't have brand loyalty at this point.
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