Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by silencer1, Feb 5, 2013.
So everyone calling him a doper can now stop false accusations.
yeah well that's b.s. They always test the winner of Majors. Not news. Doesn't mean he's not doping. Do you know anything about PEDs and blood doping?
Going by your logic, a positive test doesn't mean that he's doping, either. Could be a false positive, an incorrect test or any number of things.
It's fun believing whatever you want!
No but I know enough to know blood doping isn't detectable and players know to stop taking other PED's at least 24 hours before a test so that it's out of their system. How many tests did Lance pass? I suppose you're going to tell me he wasn't doping either?:shock:
People are typically clear by the time competition comes up, I thought they were supposed to be testing in off-season too. But then i recently read that Lance (I mean the real one) had got "micro-doping" down to an art -- take in EPO at about 11pm and it's out of your system by 6 am.
Do you know how many different masking drugs and PEDs there are that are undetectable by doping testers?
All you did just now was explain why you can throw around doping accusations about players you don't like. Seriously, who do you think you're fooling?
I wish there were something to test your motive for accusing certain players of doping. Now THAT would have some interesting results
One word: Lance.
He tested negative for years but we all know what he was doing.
And I guess you have reading comprehension issues. I said "Doesn't mean he's not doping." Which is true. It's the same of all the players not just him. But don't tell me because he was tested that automatically means he's clean.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Every time I see someone mention Lance now I automatically assume they are talking about Djokovic. This place has warped my mind.
No mention of a silent ban yet.
While I think you should be careful, even after a positive tests, those tests are (rightly) designed with much more chance of a false negative than a false positive.
yes because lance armstrong pass loads of drug tests which means he was always clean right..??......:-?
(btw i prefer to believe that no players are taking peds..just pointing out passing a test dos'nt mean they are clean any more)
and whats the outcome?
Then, there is accusation that ALL of them (bikers) are doping anyway.
Therefore, if Rafa or Novak are found to be doping, it is most likely that the rest of the Tour is on the same junk... Just like in Martha Steward case, and in Lance case, those marked as an example will suffer the most. Others did it, too...
Someone won 17 majors and was tested everytime. He never got caught.
he was the one who set example of using Ped in tennis without getting caught! They should go after him first
Big deal. What about the 7 months(now eight) that he has gone without a blood test of any kind? When was the last time he was tested OOC?
Ahh clarky, so adamant about djoker but not nearly as vehement about murray and rafa, or ferrer or berdych or ....
are u high ? he doped in wimby'12 right ? taming peak djoker and almost peaking murray back to back lol, no sensible guy will put his 16 slams at jeopardy by doping to win his 17th , djoker on the other hand has nothing to lose at start of '11 he definitely doped its just like a vertical spike in his graph
Federer didn't win his majors by grinding it out. the only time he ever did that ws 2009 FO, and maybe 2008 USO. But both tournaments he only really had 1 tough match physically.
Not comparable to Novak. Stop being butthurt.
why would djoker do the same? why would he jeopardize his career by doping?
Djoker's career would nose dive as well if he doped.
I was just throwing back some accusation on Fed and some are so worked up....I wonder why!
You know what else went on for years? Dozens of doctors and other people involved TESTIFYING to the fact that Lance was doping. It wasn't just a bunch of butthurt fans crying about the fact that he was beating everyone.
doesn't matter..... when some one starts winning 10 majors in 3 years, I would be more than suspicious. he should be the one who WADA should be careful about.
They should still have his blood samples and should pursue more rigorous testing. He was the one who pioneered doping in tennis without getting caught.
Fed fans like clarky & her double account marie are the ones who are butthurt of Novak winning 4th AO. You are no exception either. Where were you when your co-Fed fans throw doping tantrums on others? Simply reading and enjoying the posts? Deal with it!
One more plain slandering thread on Novak and Mods want to stay mum. well its not surprising!
Your thoughts are wrong then; I don't have a double account. You and F1bob are two of the biggest ********* trolls on this forum. He made my ignore list long ago and you aren't far behind him. Neither one of you can handle any criticism at all about your fav and it's pathetic.
And what I posted was on topic, troll. It's you who never posts anything of substance. It's like it's your job to police this forum from people who don't like your fav, and it's all you ever post about. You'll never change my mind about Lance so you're wasting your time.
The dopers are usally one step ahead. If Nole was caught he could put the blame onto a coach or trainer anyhow but he would still be banned for a short period (see Greg Rusedski). The drugs level in the blood and urine goes down if you drink alot of water in a match obviously and players get through alot of water.
LOL you traitor. :twisted:
Fed never gets injured. Definitely taking some sort of medication.
more like federer doesnt need to push himself to the limit each time to win matches
Needs to push more. Gives up when the chips are down. Take the semi at AO as an example.
Only then he will be remembered as a true great. 8)
When was the last time he ever fought back and won against a top player in a major? USopen 2010 & 2011 are great examples of his fighting spirit.
A choker as always he is!
he did push himself to back to back 5 setters this AO 2013. Doesn't matter he won or lost, still played two 5 setters against young guns.
That clearly tells me Pederer is doping!
Clarky21 is just a butthurt ********* angry that Djokovic replaced Nadal as the fittest and mentally toughest player on tour.
You the one who trolls every thread with baseless accusations about trolling. Just agree to the fatc that Fed is the one who started all this Ped in Tennis and move.
The number of posters that mention your your name 'Clarky21' shows how much useless bashing you do.
You are already on my ignore list troll. But I still end up reading your useless comments when someone else quotes you!
you show promise, but you have to put in work to get your trolling to the level of NSK/Bulzilla
And you claim this because his playing looks so "effortless", just like Lance's cycling looked compared to those that passed out before reaching the finish.
People on this board are super biased...
If ONE of the top guys is doping (any kind), I am a 100% sure the rest of the top 20 is doing the same...
LOL. They are always tested after their last matches at a major. Wasn't this board awash with conspiracy theories of how the big players use the 1st week of Slams to flush the dope out of their systems, which is why an early loss is bad for the dopers, and Nadal is serving a silent ban therefore blah blah blah? Fact is, these guys are only ever tested at the Slams so they are smarter than to stay juiced thru the finals :roll:
The first 5-setter against Tsonga wasn't as physical as Djokovic's matches, both Tsonga and Fed played aggressively. Against Murray Federer was gassed in the 5th set. I guess he forgot his PED's then, huh?
Really. Why was Federer gassed against Murray at the Olympics after playing a tough match against Del Potro? Why was he gassed against Murray in the 5th set of their AO encounter? Geee, if he was on peds the physicality of the game wouldn't affect him that much, would it?
Now back to Djokovic. He plays 5 hours against Wawrinka, looks fresh at the end of the match. Goes on to destroy Berdych in the next round. The year before. Plays 5 hours against Murray in a total grindfest. Beats Nadal in 6 hours not more than 2 days later in a second consecutive grindfest.
Geee I wish I'd know who looked more suspicious - Federer or Djokovic?:roll:
I agree with you on 1 part, though. If one of the top guys is doping, you can say that a lot of the lower ranked guys are dopers too.
Let's conveniently forget that Federer is almost six years older than Djokovic.
I DO NOT HAVE A DOUBLE ACCOUNT. SO F-OFF!!!
you just lost your argument.
100%? Are you certain about that? Even Gilles Simon and Kohlschreiber and Querrey? Really?
Doesn't anyone get it.
Federer's game is far less taxing than Djockovics.
Fed can play 3 five set matches in 5 days and still be okay.
Lance - not so much.
Fed is the most talented to have ever played the game. Even Nadal has stated that. he does not need to put in as much effort as lesser mortals such as Lance and Nadal or the Scottish Salmon
Apparently he lost the second 5 setter in AO..... :lol:
Djoker player semis against Ferrer @ USopen on Sunday. Played 5 setter against Murray on Monday afternoon. Didn't have anymore gas in 5th set and lost the game
Forgot his PED's then huh?
Care to respond?
And was DRAGGING in the 5th...
He is not immortal, in fact, if anyone's doping, it would be him at this point playing against the 25-year-olds...
and let's conveniently forget the fact that he can still play 2 back to back 5 setters against players 6 years younger than him.
May be his PEDs are not good enough to last 2 back to back 5 setters
The amount of all-round stupidity in this thread is astonishing.
No, he is the angel who descended the earth who cannot do anything wrong. Federer and his fans are sore losers to say the least.
They cannot digest Murray beating him. Until 2009 Nadal was on Peds, starting 2011 Djoker was on Peds and starting 2013 Murray is on Peds.
Do you see a pattern? Whenever Pederer starts losing, then the opponent starts doping.
The old grandpa should retire and ask his fans to "SHUT UP" aka french open style!
This so much.
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