Djokovic vs. Nalbandian, who's better on clay?

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Who has a better clay court game?

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  1. Nalbandian

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  2. Djokovic

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  1. deme08

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    Both are semifinalists in Roland Garros. Both can challenge/beat Federer and Nadal on nearly all surfaces. A current No.3 versus a former No.3. Who has a better clay court game? Let's talk about clay only since it's currently the clay season.
     
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  2. Nadal_Freak

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    Definitely Djokovic. Nalbandian has not been consistent enough on clay. Djokovic has much more upside as well.
     
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  3. Breaker

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    Nalbandian has accomplished more on clay to this point and is just about unbeatable in Davis Cup on clay. At this stage I'll say David, though Djokovic obviously has time on his side.
     
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  4. flyer

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    Hmmmmm, its completely depends on which Nalbandian shows up, on the whole I would go with Djokovic because Nalby is just was to inconsistent on any given day, on the whole I would say Nalby has more game though
     
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  5. gj011

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    I was lookiig forward for Djokovic - Nalbandian match in the SF in MC to get some insight about this question, but Federer was not kind enough to let us see them :)
     
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  6. helloworld

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    Good Nalbandian > Djokovic
    Bad Nalbandian < Djokovic
     
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  7. NamRanger

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    At their bests Nalbandian wins by a long shot. He was completely demolishing an inform Federer at RG 2006.
     
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  8. my_forehand

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    What happened? Retired?

    And to think I thought Federer got to the finals that year.
     
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  9. ATXtennisaddict

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    I vote Nalbandian.
     
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  10. random guy

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    You got it right.
     
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  11. deme08

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    Poll added:)
     
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  12. bluescreen

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    as of right now, i'd say nalby only cuz he's posted more results on the dirt. i might change my opinion by next year though.
     
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  13. deme08

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    He beat Federer convincingly 6-3 in the first set and had many opportunities in the 2nd but lost the set anyhow. Then retired down 2-5 in the 3rd due to , if memory serves, an abdominal muscle injury.
     
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  14. BallzofSkill

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    nalbandian. cause he can finish 2 sets.
     
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  15. deme08

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    Another match up I can't wait to see is between Nadal and Nalbandian on clay.
     
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    Now down to 4 feet behind the baseline.
    This is true with any pro player.
     
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  17. Nadal_Freak

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    Djokovic is clearly better. I guess he picked up a lot of haters last weekend though.
     
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  18. PROTENNIS63

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    Nalby when he is on.
     
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  19. deme08

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    How is he better? He can't generate as much angle on his backhand as Nalbandian can. He tends to go for his shots which is not the way to play on clay. A solid grinding baseling game is where its at on clay, Nalbandian clearly has the edge with that. The only upside is Djokovic's shot has more pace (arguably) which is again neutralized by the clay surface.
     
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  20. Leublu tennis

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    I said Nalbandian only because Djokovic says that he likes hard courts and even grass.
     
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  21. gj011

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    This thread is not about their backhand only.
     
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  22. deme08

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    Sorry I just realized that. Post editted. Still has a strong arguement though:)
     
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  23. Andres

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    Nalbandian: TWO times French Open Semifinalist. No runner-ups
    Djokovic: ONE time French Open Semifinalist. No runner-ups

    Nalbandian: 19-6 record at French Open (76%)
    Djokovic: 10-3 record at French Open (76.9%)

    Nalbandian: 4 titles on clay
    Djokovic: 2 titles on clay

    Nalbandian: 105-47 record on clay (69.08%)
    Djokovic: 40-18 record on clay (68.97%)

    Nalbandian: 1 SF at Hamburg, 2 QF at Monte Carlo, 1 SF at Rome, 1 FINAL at Rome.
    Djokovic: 1 QF at Hamburg, 1 SF at Monte Carlo, 1 QF at Rome

    Nalbandian: 15-0 clay record on Davis Cup (100%)
    Djokovic: 6-2 clay record on Davis Cup (75%)


    Nalbandian has a better clay record than Djokovic on every stat, except the winnin % at the French Open, where Djokovic is only above him by less than 1%
     
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  24. Babb

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    ^^^^^
    And thus, the argument ends. Facts are facts. But I'm sure someone will find an excuse...
     
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  25. edberg505

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    Ok, I'll bite, what makes him clearly better on clay? You see you need to back up statements such as this with proof.
     
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  26. edberg505

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    Ahh, now this is how one has facts to back up their argument.
     
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  27. Nadal_Freak

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    Just look at last years clay court season. Before that doesn't matter as that is history. Djokovic got to the Semis last year. Where was Nalbandian?
     
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  28. veroniquem

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    Me too. It really scares me but I still want to see it. David is the only dangerous player that Rafa has never played on clay yet.
     
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  29. edberg505

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    Well, he lost to the eventual semi-finalst. That's where he was while Djokovic was busy navigating through a cream-puff draw.
     
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  30. Andres

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    When was the last time Djokovic won a clay title?
    Where was Novak when Nalbandian won a title and was runner-up in back to back clay events this February? He was fishing in Monaco.
     
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  31. zagor

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    Nalbandian lost to Davydenko who was very close in beating Federer and getting to the FO finals himself last year.In my opinion Kolja was a much tougher draw then Andreev or Verdasco.
     
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  32. Nadal_Monfils

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    Nalbandian is only barely ahead in almost all of these stats because he has been a pro longer and therefore has played many more matches on clay. The stats Djokovic have put up in a relatively short period of time are more impressive than the stats Nalbandian has recorded over a longer period of time.
     
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  33. fer

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    Top five players on clay.

    1 Nadal.
    2 Federer.
    3 Ferrer.
    4 Davydenko.
    5 Djokovic.
     
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  34. stormholloway

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    Djokovic wasn't kind enough to let us see him play Federer either.
     
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  35. stormholloway

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    Right, but Djokovic is a different animal now. Stats are all about the past. The question, I assume, refers to the present.
     
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  36. MajinX

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    its much harder to remain consistent with ur stats esp on the pro tour and for many years, there are many players who play extremely well for 1 or 2 years then level off, sorta like roddick but hes still pretty high on the rankings, so right now saying djokovic is impressive because he made his records in a short amount is not a good agruement. If he has the same percentage of wins and loses over lets say 4 years, then he would be very good.
     
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  37. Nadal_Freak

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    I would put it.
    1. Nadal
    2. Federer
    3. Djokovic
    4. Davydenko
    5. Ferrer
    6. Nalbandian
     
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  38. edberg505

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    Even if it is the present Nalbandian has a better clay court record than Djokovic right now. The only reason Nalbandian didn't make it as far as Djokovic did in the MC Masters is because he ran into Federer before Novak.
     
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  39. Nadal_Freak

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    Clay is Nalbandian's worst surface. The only place where Nalbandian is better than Djokovic is indoors. Conditioning isn't as much of an issue indoors. Federer was able to beat Nalbandian 6-2 6-2 in the last 2 sets. Nalbandian becomes dedicated to fitness again and he'll do well but the Semis is as far as he goes at the French Open or any clay court even with Nadal and Federer in it.
     
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  40. flyer

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    ^^^I dont think Nalbys at his best on clay either but if hes in form he can beat anybody on clay, even Nadal if he has an off day
     
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  41. edberg505

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    Hey, all I have to say is numbers don't lie. And yes I'm talking about this year.
     
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    Clay is not Nalbandian's worst surface. Grass is, and the only reason why Nalbandian got to the final of Wimbledon in 2002 was because of a paper thin draw for him at the bottom of the draw.


    Outside of 2002, Nalbandian has done NOTHING on grass.


    And don't even argue that Nalbandian is good on grass, because he didn't play a single good grass player in 2002. He has 0 titles on grass. He has his best results indoors because of his ability to hit so cleanly on the rise, and clay because he has one of the best dropshots in the game, and is extremely good at creating angles out of nothing.
     
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  43. jgreen06

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    nalbandian easy
     
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  44. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    Djokovic just became a huge force in men's tennis last year, carried over into 2008 hard court season and now he's a better clay court player than the South American Nalbandian on clay? :confused:

    Yes he made the French Open semifinals last year, David has also done the same. If Nalbandian took fitness a little more seriously, do any of us realize what kind of damage he could've actually done?

    I am not a fan of Nalbandian, but what am I missing here? :-?

    Someone please fill me in....
     
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    Nalbandian just got roflstomped by Wawrinka. I think Nalbandian is the most overrated person on this forum.
     
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    That honor belongs to Safin.
     
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    Yes they don't lie. 6-3 6-1 against Wawrinka. :lol:
     
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    Nalbandian has the most titles on clay. He has two SF's at the French Open. Tell me he's not good on clay again?
     
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  49. Nadal_Freak

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    Nalbandian is 26 and Djokovic is 20. Yeah a little disadvantage there. I'll take Djokovic in a match. I would take Wawrinka as well. ;)
     
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  50. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    Marat Safin reigns supreme in that category.
     
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