Do Head's racquet technologies carry over?

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  1. seacard

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    Years ago, Head came out with the iPrestige -- still my all-time favorite racquet. It had intellifibers, which supposedly stiffened the racquet on contact. Then there was liquidmetal. Then flexpoint. Then microgel. Now, d3O.

    If the previous technologies were advances, why aren't they arround anymore? In other words, why isn't the "Youtek Prestige" actually the "Youtek Flexpoint Microgel Liquidmetal iPrestige"? If they weren't advances, why did Head promote them as such? Or am I missing something? Maybe you just can't combine liquidmetal with d3O, or microgel with flexpoint holes?
     
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  2. THESEXPISTOL

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    That's just gimmicks..
    Slice them and you will find graphite in all of them.
     
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  3. Deodorant

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    well, lets just say sometimes they do and sometimes they dont depending on how the playtest the racquets before final production runs. for example, the dunlop aerogel 4d 100, it was released a while after the other 4d's because playtests went down and the 4d100 didnt play well enough, and also another example would be the pws(perimeter weighting system) its still on production frames today as well as the double braids that carries on form the 6.1 line up. the LM series carries the intellifibres only at the 3/9 positions as well, but sometimes frames dont need all that advanced materials.
     
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  4. ace0001a

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    It is said that Head still uses the Twin Tube construction technology introduced prior to their Intelligence lines, but I also read that the Intelligence line was the one that didn't use Twin Tube construction and that all the other lines have since been using it...although Twin Tube hasn't been listed on Tennis Warehouse's "technologies" description for either the Microgel or Youtek lines. The Intellifiber tech carried over to the Liquidmetal line and stopped there. Liquidmetal then carried over to the Flexpoint line and stopped there. Microgel only lasted one line with it being replaced by D3O. It looks like they try to carry over the technologies they put in their racquets, but only for a few lines at most.
     
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  5. Shellovic

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    I work at a tennis.shop, and the Head represetative told me once it's only marketing..
     
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    Although, the flexpoints were actually carried over for the microgel squash racquets and liquidmetal, if I recall correctly was carried over to the the flexpoint series on tennis racquets.
     
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  7. Xenakis

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    Certain industries follow this model. You could call it the 'what we sold you last year was rubbish' model because that's implied by the constant 'innovation.'

    You see it with washing powers or tablets or liquids in a little ball or whatever form these companies happen to be selling it in this week.

    Snickers bars used to use the 'now with even more peanuts' line so much one would be forgiven for thinking they had gotten rid of all the chocolate.

    If racquet manufacturers didn't change their product lines and get players to mimic the shift with pjs arguably these companies wouldn't exist.

    The bottom line or the question one should ask is are these always-new frames any good? Generally I think they are so it's a compromise which works for the most part.

    If you like a frame a lot, buy lots of them before they're discontinued.
     
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  8. dr325i

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    I assume you got a chance to try the MG Prestige MP vs. YT Prestige MP?
    Looking at the spec, it is pretty much identical, however, the rackets feel and play totally different in my opinion and in the opinion of the others...

    So, how's that if it is only a marketing gimmick?
     
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  9. cork_screw

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    No, that's because they don't work. They are gimmicks. What happened to the liquidmetal ridges? Or the Flexpoint holes? Or the Intellifibre strips? Now they don't even bother to make any physical mention of what new technology is there. They just want us to trust that they implanted or combined a microgel material in the frame or added a D30 composite into the frame. You don't even see where they attempted to fool us, they asking us to just take their word for it.
     
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  10. callmethedoctor

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    They are gimmicks, as others have said, however I believe others have misconstrued the meaning of the word. Yea, I had the urge to use some vocab words today :D.
    They may very well have just plain graphite in all of them, but I highly doubt that. What I doubt is that all that stuff actually improves your game. They want you to believe that the new tech is all the old tech already has and more. All racket companies do that. If they didn't they would lose sales because the other companies would continue to... well, not lie, but... market.
     
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  11. Jaewonnie

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    Graphite was the best racket technology ever invented.
     
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  12. tennisdude083

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    agreed.

    to the op: like someone said the Liquidmetal racquets still had "intellifibre", and the flexpoints still had the LM ridges... obviously the newer ones don't have flexpoint or LM anymore. Who knows what the racquet really consists of anyways and if the technologies do anything.
     
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  14. dr325i

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    Exactly.
    Talking about some conspiracies without any proof is ridiculous. On the other hand, a simple test with the YT frames easily shows the difference between a weak and strong shot feel and huge difference from the Microgel line...
     
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