Do i have a college future

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  1. Kick Serve 14

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    hi, i am a 15 year old boy attending a private school in ohio that is a tennis powerhouse in our state. This year i played singles three as a freshman and i went to the state singles tournament for DII and i finished in the top 8. At my school (this is very hard to do because most of the kids who play were given grants and scholarships to play at my school because the tuition is over 15,000.) Also in the team competition we finished in the top 4. I have all A's in school... but based on my tennis profile do you think i might get a full ride scholarship to play in college.

    P.S. The best part of my game would have to be my serve, i can hit four different serves, flat, kick, slice, topspin, and i can get them all up over 100 mph. From there i am an excelent volleyer which is also a major part of my gameplan

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  2. tennismom42

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    you definitely have a great chance for college tennis with those kinds of grades. However, describing yourself to someone here with your HS accomplishments, is difficult for us to gauge. Unfortunately many cannot play the game of going to countless tournaments, so their rankings & ratings are difficult to discern. Recruiters look for various things: good fit, ranking, rating, grades, can your family afford their school, ethnicity (URM), etc.

    There is a place for you and now is the perfect time to start looking for it. It's good that you're posting & researching here. Already you have more gumshun than my kid ever did.

    The major recruiting takes place between your junior to senior year, with 1st signing in November. Try your best to sign then. Main signing is in April, but spots are slim picking by then. All coaches will tell you they don't have much $$ left. You should be able to get athletic & academic scholarships. Start looking now.


    Use some college search engine to look for the perfect college. Most schools use collegeboard.com . In other words, find the right college first & tennis will land properly in it's place. Don't let the tail wag the dog.
     
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  3. Kick Serve 14

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    Okay, so what if i'm not good enough to make the team, is there a chance that i could play club or intercollegiate for a year or two and then join the team by my sophomore or junior year.
     
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  4. tennismom42

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    that's a loaded question. If it's the right college education, you already have your answer, yes? Find the right college & tennis will land in the right place. There are soooo many possible schools for you. You worry too much.

    If a scholarship is your driving factor (and I am sure you're too bright for that), then you're on your own for the 1st two years.

    Look carefully at the costs of schools. As meticulous as I am, I screwed up & forgot about the cost of room & board. That's about a $10K mistake. Stupid me!
     
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  5. tennisdad65

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    if you can hit your kick 2nd serve at 100+ mph, you could skip college and directly go to the pro's :)
     
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    Do you play USTA tournaments?
     
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  7. Toad

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    Concentrate on your grades and variety of activities, that is what will get you money for going to college and what will determine your college future. If you are getting straight A's, that is good, but make sure the classes you are taking are challenging. Colleges look at quality of courses, not just GPA...if you can, take some AP courses your junior and senior year (i.e. Calculus, AP Comp. or Lit., etc.).

    If that still doesn't challenge you, try adding another sport into the mix, or volunteer a few hours a month (this will get you major good points with any college since most people won't have many if any volunteer hours on their application), join or start a school club, or possibly get a part time job. Doing a plethora of activities while still maintaining a high GPA and taking challenging courses will land you some very good offers at any school you apply to.

    Even if doing this means you have to cut out a couple hours of tennis a day, or a day or two in a week, I would still consider doing these things. This is because you are probably more likely to get a full ride somewhere based your grades and variety of extra curricular activities than based on your tennis playing ability. Unfortunately Men's Tennis is near the bottom of a large list of sports schools like to fund. Hinging your college future on the slim chance of getting a tennis scholarship is not a good thing to do.

    For what it's worth, this was the approach I took and it got me into the undergraduate college of my choice for a steep discount and now into one of my top graduate school choices. Of course everyone is different, so feel free to ignore my suggestions, it won't make a difference to me.
     
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    Living in Ohio, you have some truly great academic schools that have tennis programs. Denison, Kenyon. Tremendous education at those two schools. Way too many kids get caught in the D1 hype. I don't know if a statistic is available, but many just quit after a half year to a year. Schools like those mention give you opportunity to play your sport, and get an education that will propell you to a very successful future.
     
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    100 mph or higher second serve sounds a little far off for a 15 year old. What is your section and nation rank?
     
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    Another reason to concentrate more on grades is because not many schools give out full rides for tennis. NCAA limits the number of scholarships you can offer to 4 1/2. So, assuming the team is fully funded, that usually means maybe the #1 and #2 guys are on a full ride and then the rest are split up among several guys. In Ohio, DI private schools like Dayton or Xavier don't have a lot of tennis money available, but the university is pretty generous with academic scholarships. So if you are a promising player with great grades and test scores you might get a third tennis money and then two-thirds academic.
     
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    Note - that 4.5 scholarship limit is for men. Women's tennis has a limit of 8 scholarships (so if the team is fully funded you might have players who don't even play who are on full ride!)
     
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  12. Kick Serve 14

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    I don't have a national ranking, because i don't play huge tournaments. As for my sectional rakning i'm in the top 40 in the u 16's.
     
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  13. Bilbo

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    since ur that highly ranked... u probably have a tennis recruiting.net star ranking. i would ask ur name, so i could search u on tennisrecruiting.net, but thats a little private... lol. So, yeah, just search urself up on the website and tell us wat star u are. Newhere from 2 stars up u definently have a future in college tennis. Will u get a scholarship? It's possible for a low level d1 school or a d2 school. So... yeah!
     
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  14. Kick Serve 14

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    i actually don't, because like i said i don't play large tournaments, and my family doesn't think i have a future in tennis. So i am just hopimg that a scout might come to one of my matches at state in my junior or senior year, beacuse according to my coach/ college advisor there were scouts looking at our singles one player this year at the state tournament.
     
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  15. DownTheLine

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    Top 40 with that kind of serve?

    You probably should be around top 20.

    You might just be a Ivo Karlovic, or you just don't hit as hard as you think you do.
     
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  16. DownTheLine

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    Also alot of the good players I know there familys do think they have a future in tennis. Not going pro or anything like that but maybe something related to tennis for there career.
     
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  17. Kick Serve 14

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    Well, i don't play as many tournaments which is whyu i'm so far back... i win most of my matches but as i've said before my parents don't think i have any future in tennis, so i am only allowed to play a tournament every-so-often...
     
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    Also, i am not ivo, i do serve and volley alot, but i have other skills and i have not seen many players who can return serve the way i can, (excluding everyone on my team who returns my serves as if they were just floaters.)
     
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  19. Bilbo

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    its cool, u still could have a ranking... however, since ur just going to be a sophomore, u might not have a ranking yet. For example, a friend of mine is a 3 star player, and he's only played one tournament in his life (and in the tournament he lost in the second round to the two seed)! He was a great high school player so he was still scouted. He got a full ride to hampton, and is playing there right now.

    If ur not going to pla tournaments, u should talk to ur head coach (who probably has a lot of connections since he coaches a powerhouse high school team) about scholarship offers. He can probably talk around to some scouts and get u looked at. From wat uve posted there should be ABSOLUTELY NO REASON u wont get some scholarship offers from some schools... good or not. And that's regardless if u play another tournament for the rest of ur high school career (considering all the tools ur game has, and all the connections ur coach probably has).
     
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  20. RedWeb

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    Real simple... concentrate on the grades and everything else will take care of itself. Other than NCAA football and b-ball colleges don't exist to turn out athletes they exist to turn out scholars and the successful people of tomorrow.

    In Texas, where my kids were raised and went to private and public school, most private schools have weaker athlete programs when compared to the larger public schools. So its hard to judge your abilities based upon success at private school level without knowing the competition level of your school as compared to the real powerhouses of the state/area.

    Earlier, Toad had a wise post.
     
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  21. Kick Serve 14

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    Only five public school was in the DII state tournament, we played two consecutively and won 5-0 5-0 I played doubles 2 and singles 2 in both of those matches.
     
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    You sound like you are pretty sick. If you keep up the good grades and keep your performance up, i am sure you will get a full ride. I heard of a kid who won the state tournament in doubles, which is alot harder to do than singles, and just walked on to a college team. If you are in the top 5 by the end of your senior year in high school, you are looking at a bright future.
    Keep practicing and keep up the good work and the benefits will come by themselves. Good Luck!
     
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  23. Andres

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    A 15 years old hitting 100 mph kickserves? Sorry, not buying it. Many MANY pros don't reach those numbers.
     
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  24. Kick Serve 14

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    well, then if that's what you believe then okay...
     
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    Any ways, what are your thoughts on the schools that might look at me? DI, DII, DIII, NAIA (what is that by the way)?
     
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    It's incredibly hard to say without any form of ranking. Your best shot is playing tournaments. Talk to your coach, see what he thinks. He knows you better than we do. Then try to convince your parents. If you need help, ask him. They're going to trust a coach much more than you on the topic of college tennis, most likely. Go to local jucos/other schools etc. and see what the level of competition is like compared to your game, though you may need to wait until the season starts. You can't do most of it from in front of your computer. And have your serves been clocked, or are you just assuming? Because 100 mph is a lot faster than most think.
     
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  27. JoshDragon

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    Not at all. One of my friends could hit serves in the 90s at 14 or 15. He was small for his age too.
     
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  28. Kick Serve 14

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    Thanks for the help, but could someone please explain what the NAIA is? Is it like a juco or something?
     
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  29. tennismom42

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    I hit the "mother load" of scholarship seach engines tonight. I came across this one and it reminded me of your comment.

    A GPA Isn't Everything Scholarship
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    Deadline: July 31, 2009
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    Description: The A GPA Isn't Everything Scholarship is available to students planning to attend college. You must be a US citizen and a high school student, GED recipient or current college student. You must demonstrate a strong record of extracurricular, leadership and/or volunteer activities to be eligible for this award.
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  30. SirBlend12

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    Kick Serve 14, what school are you at? University... Kenston... Hawken... Indian Hill... Gahanna... CVCA?

    Sorry for the list, but I know a decent bit about Ohio high school DII. It's only been a year since I was there with ya;)
     
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  31. Toad

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    Forgot about that stuff, but that is another thing. There are tons and tons of smaller privately funded scholarships like this if you are willing to look for them. You can find them for just about anything, and if you don't mind writing a bunch of 500 or 1000 word essays and filing out applications, chances are pretty good you will get one of them. I don't think I applied to any (or if I did it was only one of these), but if I remember correctly my sister applied to a few and did win one of them.

    When I got into college I started applying for some of these scholarship (they were a little larger and more specific to my field though), and in total I received 9K in tuition from it. Not bad for just filling out applications. At one of the award dinners I asked about how many applicants there were for the scholarship and they told me they had a good turnout of 25 applicants that year. There were three scholarships awarded which meant all else being equal, you had a 12% chance of getting money from the start...pretty good odds in my book. I'm not trying to brag or anything here, I am just saying that if you are willing to have some initiative and look for the money, you will find it...you can't just expect it to fall into your lap though.
     
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  32. 120mphBodyServe

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    You really should play more tournaments...
    *shakes head*
    How about some videos of your serve???
     
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    2nd serves in the 90s at 14 or 15. Really?
     
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  34. Kick Serve 14

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    No i'm in a high school in toledo ohio, i don't know if you've ever heard of it Maumee Valley Contry Day School.
     
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  35. dunlop1857

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    Anybody has a future in NCAA Div 1 or 2 tennis. I never played USTA as a junior, however I worked my ass off and ended up playing NCAA Div 1. Just make sure you can beat the guys who do play USTA juniors...
     
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    That might be easier said than done, most of the kids on my team are better than me, but i made it because of my huge serve and solid volleys.
     
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  37. SirBlend12

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    Oh yeah. I've seen you guys pop up on just about every state tourney roster I can remember. I'd say you have a good place to start!
     
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  38. CTennis11

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    From my understanding NAIA is just another division in a way...I know it can give out scholarships. Some of the top teams are really good too
     
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  39. InsideOut94

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    Ha topspin and kick are the same spins buddy :D
     
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  40. ClarkC

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    They can refer to the same spin, or not, depending on who is talking. Picturing a clock face on the front of the ball, a slice strokes the ball from 9:00 to 3:00 for a right hander. A kick serve strokes the ball from 7:00 up to 1:00. I suppose you could toss the ball over your head and try to stroke it from 6:00 to 12:00. Then there is the serve I call half-slice, half-kick, stroking from 8:00 to 2:00.

    I think some people call the half-slice, half-kick a kick serve, and then call the 7:00 to 1:00 a topspin serve. Not sure why there is disagreement on terminology.

    I like my terminology the best. :)
     
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  41. gogeta087

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    8-2 Is generally called the Twist serve, or 7-1 sometimes.
     
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  42. Barricated

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    man there are a lot of these threads!
     
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  43. Kick Serve 14

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    So is it on the same tier as D I or D II schools? Or are the schools much smaller?
     
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  44. DownTheLine

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    It's not that hard to be able to play college tennis... But, what is hard is to get a full ride.

    What is your section rank?
    What is your national rank?

    If your not ranked within the top 5 for section and you don't have a high national ranking you can kiss the full ride goodbye.

    My personal coach was #4 in the section through out 14s, 16s and 18s with a pretty good national rank and he made it to a top D2 school with a scholarship but i', not sure if it was a full ride.
     
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    Volunteer hours own all other actvities.
    Well you know what i mean.
     
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    From what I know NAIA is the equivalent of DII.
     
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  47. Rui

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    How do your parents think playing better tennis will harm your future?

    It sounds like you have the goods to play D1. (Not all D1 schools have killer teams.) Earning a Sectional ranking would help.
     
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  48. Kick Serve 14

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    Because, they believe that playing tennis interferes with school. And because i will never become a pro (according to them, i might believe that i could had i not been told from the first time that i piced up a racket that i would have no chance.) therefore, i am wasting time that i could use by studying...
     
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  49. 5263

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    Hey, you are 15!

    It's all in front of you to make happen.
    Keep asking questions and only listen to the ones who have advice on how to do it.
    Don't listen to those who tell you it can't.
     
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  50. DownTheLine

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    Kick serve what's you sectinol and natinaol ranking?
     
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