Do One-Slam-Wonders deserve to be in the Hall of Fame?

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  1. sandiegotennisboy

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    i say no.

    i hate it when they do give it away to one-slam-wonders a la novotna. puh-lease. she had a lucky week.

    ill puke when they give it to roddick, sharapova, kim, myskina, and kuznetsova and so on and so on when they retire.

    i think giving a one-slam-wonder a spot in the HOF devalues the majors and the HOF. give them a plaque or something and an espn 1hr special... or at least give priority to people who have won more than one slam to enter the HOF.
     
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  2. tarheels2323

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    I agree. If a player only wins one Slam then it very well could be a fluke. They don't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame for that. However, if they did something else for the game or in the game, then yes, regardless of their lack of Slams they should be let in.
     
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  3. sandiegotennisboy

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    well the whole civil rights, charity, and "men and women are equal" thing have been done... so what's left?
     
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  4. Marat Safinator

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    so marat will be in the hall of fame.
     
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  5. sandiegotennisboy

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    he has 2. when youre a diehard fan youre supposed to know this sh1t. you let him down.
     
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  6. Dilettante

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    Some of them deserve it for sure. Don't you think Moya for example deserves it?
     
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    Michael Chang only won one slam but I think he deserves a place in the HOF.
     
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  8. sandiegotennisboy

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    why to post 6 and 7? why?
     
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  9. Dilettante

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    Thomas Muster.

    Yes, I know, why to post #9?
     
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  10. sandiegotennisboy

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    thats exactly what im saying. the list goes on and on. i think that if you at least win two, then youve proven you werent just "lucky" or everyone else had a bad week. you dont think that Myskina's slam is her last? has she done sh1t for the game worth noting? has muster? the tennis HOF is a joke.
     
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  11. Dilettante

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    It's called "hall of fame", not "Hall of Multimple Slam Winners" or whatever.

    Like or not, players like Moya (still active though), Chang, Muster, are remembered by tennis fans because one or another reason. They played a role in tennis game, whatever that role was, and they are remembered because that. You can say they played a singnificant role in their primes.

    Anyway, I don't think a player wins a slam just by being "lucky".
     
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  12. mavsman149

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    whats worse is that gabrilela sabatini never won one and shes getting in.
     
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  13. superman1

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    There's a lot more to it than Slams. Chang only won 1 Slam but he was always a contender, he competed with the best of them and won 34 Singles titles and went 662-312 in his career. He also did a lot for Asian tennis as he was the highest ranked Asian in history (#2). And he was one of the 4 famous Americans who revolutionized 90's tennis.

    Then you look at Safin...he has won 2 Slams and 15 titles and his win-loss record is good (333-187), but his entire career is full of "could have's" and "wasted potential." He has never been very consistent and he's gone down many times to much lesser players, usually by beating himself. He will have to do more in tennis to deserve Hall of Fame status.
     
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  14. Marat Safinator

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    i know he has 2 you moron.
     
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  15. Marat Safinator

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    yes i do.
     
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  16. sandiegotennisboy

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    this is a one slam wonder thread. go take english classes. and yeah youre right, he will be in the HOF. sorry for being quick with you. i just dont like you for some reason.
     
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  17. cuddles26

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    It depends who it is. If they have enough other sufficent accomplishments, and the longevity, and the number of serious bids to win another slam title then yes. If their lone slam win stands out very isolated, and they were rarely if ever close another time, and they spent very little time in the top 3, or top 5, depending on the individual then probably not.


    Here are 1 slam winners I think belong in hall of fame: Chang, Novotna, Sabatini, Martinez, Ivanisevic, Roddick, Clijsters

    Here are 1 slam winners I believe do not belong in hall of fame: Korda, Krajcek, Stich, Majoli, Myskina, Kuznetsova(although probably will in time), Sharapova(ditto Kuznetsova), Ferrero
     
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  18. sandiegotennisboy

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    why is sabatini getting in. i told you people the HOF is a joke.

    dont get me started on korda and majoli. geesus kryst.
     
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    Sabatini deserves to be in. She won many tier 1 titles on clay even though she sadly never won the french. She made the semis of three Australian Opens, semis of five French Opens, finals of Wimbledon almost beating Graf, winning a U.S Open, other semis at Wimbledon and the U.S Open to go along with it. She is definitely worthy of Hall of Fame even with sadly only one slam.

    Sabatini is miles ahead of Korda and Majoli, they arent in the hall of fame are they? Well Majoli isnt eligable yet I think but Korda is not in that I heard of.
     
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  20. sandiegotennisboy

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    bud collins' mummified corpse will be entered in as a relic
     
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    Lol
     
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  22. sandiegotennisboy

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    korda was on roids. majoli won cuz hingis fell off a horse the week before the french and managed to cortisone-shot herself to the finals.
     
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    Well, that's one more slam than you own.
     
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  24. cuddles26

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    I laughed when he tested positive for performance enchancement drugs. He was skinny, he looked like a bird. I could not believe he was juiced.

    Majoli definitely was lucky at that French Open. Davenport was crushing her and then gave the match away pretty much. She got to play Dragomir in the quarters instead of Novotna. Then in the semis Coetzer choked big time and still almost beat Majoli. In the final she played a super super match though, the best I have ever seen her play. In a normal year she would not even been in the final though.
     
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  25. AAAA

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    The last time I looked it was called the 'Hall of Fame' and not the 'Hall of Achievement'.
     
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  26. lacoster

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    Novotna (1 GS, 3 finals) won over 100 titles (singles and doubles) joining the likes of only Evert, Navratilova, and Graf...so she's in.
    You have to be at least 4 years removed from the pro tour to qualify for HOF nomination.

    Well, they are running out of people to induct every single year (they should have a cap on the number of people to induct to make it more exclusive)......Chang (youngest GS champ, 3 finals), Sanchez-Vicario (4 GS, 8 finals), Muster (1 GS, former no.1, 111-5 clay record), Bruguera (2 GS, 1 final) have the credentials to make it under the player category the next few years....Alan Mills will make it under the contributor category.

    Muster and Bruguera have a good chances next year....Chang and Sanchez-Vicario will have to wait...Chang played his last match USOpen '03 and ASV played a limited doubles schedule last year.
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  27. siber222000

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    me too, since he was the youngest *17 1/2 years old i think?* guy to get a championship
     
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    1 and 2... doesn't really matter does it? ;) i dont really care about safin, but yeah just because its not 1 i dont think 2 should be allowed either, unless he did something REALLY incredible
     
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  29. clayman2000

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    the hof is a joke...they will proabaly choose todd martin to bee in it...and how may career titles did he win ...like 1 (no he one 9)
    thought i do not beleive roddick will go to hof...he might in time, but as of right now no....kuznetsova i think will never win a gs again
     
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  30. cuddles26

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    I think Kuzy has a good chance to win a second or even third slam before she retires. I give her about even odds to Sharapova.
     
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  31. travlerajm

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    Let Goran in! Safin, nah.
     
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  32. Chang

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    I agree it should depend on their overall performance and what they have done and not entirely based on how many slams they've won as you mentioned.
     
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    Anyone think Federer will get in after he retires?
     
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    Maybe. If he gets lucky. ;) And they DO have really relaxed standards.
     
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  35. ACE of Hearts

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    Does anyone know if Novotna is in it or will get consideration?I am sure she will choke up during the presentation or whateva speech.:mrgreen:
     
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    She was inducted last year with Courier.
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  37. ACE of Hearts

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    The tennis hall of fame is a joke.Seriously they need to make it harder when it comes to getting in.Patrick Rafter is getting in this sunday i believe.
     
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  38. jhhachamp

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    Do you consider a 1 slam wonder anyone who won exactly 1 slam? Roddick won only 1 slam, but he reached 2 other finals and reached #1 in the world. I can see calling Gaudio or Costa or Johannson a 1 slam wonder, but not Roddick. He accomplished much more than that.
     
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  39. sandiegotennisboy

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    well if you look at it that way, they are choosing some not so famous people.... either way it is a JOKE
     
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  40. sandiegotennisboy

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    all in the same boat to me. roddick had his one good year and the downward spiral from there.
     
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  41. ACE of Hearts

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    Hey San Diego, u think Rafter belongs in the tennis hall of fame?I would make it more difficult.
     
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  42. tennisjunkiela

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    In rafter's defense, he did win 2 us opens and made 2 wimbledon finals. also, he reached #1 (however only for 1 week).

    but i agree with most of the posters - the tennis hall of fame is a joke. it should be much more difficult to get into.
     
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  43. psamp14

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    i dont think so, unless the player achieved more such as a great career win-loss record or stayed competitive for a prolonged period of time, won many titles other than grand slams, like masters series events, consistently in the top 10...it would be embarassing to see roddick get into the hall of fame with his achievements so far...
     
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  44. typingchamp

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    Check your facts before getting so emo.
     
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    Federer and Nadal have all the forseeable slams sewn up so eventually the one slam wonders like Roddick, Gaudio, Ferrero and Ivanisevic, etc will be the only ones left to choose from!
    By the way I think Ivanisevic should definitely be in there. All those Wimby finals and then finally winning as a wildcard when he was out for the count, deserves a place.
     
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    kournikova should be in there.. boy has she changed my view on womens tennis :p
     
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  47. bc-05

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    kournikova should be in there.. boy has she changed my view on womens tennis :p
     
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  48. tennisprofl

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    i think they deserve it if they posted good results the rest of their career...consistently being ranked high and getting deep in tournaments in addition to a grand slam should allow them to get in.
     
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  49. Warriorroger

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    Good thread and the answer is no. Putting Rafter, Sabatini, Novotna in devaluetes the Hall of Fame. Nice people: yes, good tennisplayers yes, great tennisplayers NO! Putting Rafter and Sabatini in is saying they were as good as Sampras and Graf, and they just weren't.
     
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  50. mctennis

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    I think it depends on what type of career they actually had. Which player has finished as runner-up the most times. Not that they chocked just they could not win the big ones. Which player has knocked out the most seeded players in theiur career? Which player(s) give the top seeds the most problems., etc.. Things like that should be considered. Just because they win one title doesn't make them Hall Of Fame bound. I like Michael Chang but do not think he is Hall Of Fame material. Don't put them there just to put "someone" there. That takes the credibility out of the whole thing. If you wait long enough everyone will be inducted. IMHO.
     
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