Do you fake your return position?

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  1. Mongolmike

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    Dang... that was a fast ban! You guys are very astute!

    So I have a question about fakes...
    how would I know my wife is faking orgasims? I'm working hard at doing my best... I've got mine down to under 2 minutes... just curious how you can tell who is faking or not.
     
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  2. Avles

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    That was my thought as well---slightly flawed English, self-assured attitude, tendency to start new threads, etc. AnaMc used capitalization more than the other dozus did but that's not a huge difference.
     
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  3. You called me MMI, now you think this is MMI or else some vegas guy, Topspin called Flint MMI and now he thinks this is doozy or something....you guys are ridiculous! Is every new member that posts on this section MMI or vegas or doozy?
     
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  4. Topspin Shot

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    More times that not yes. You would know.
     
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  5. Mods confirmed you were wrong and I never got that apology. :)
     
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    You just use a proxy service now. Mmi. We know who you are! Lol,
     
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    They never said anything to me. The fact you're still around means you know how to change your IP address. I wasn't born yesterday.
     
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  8. TomT

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    Nah, I don't bother with stuff like that. I just try to guess right if I'm returning against a good server.

    EDIT: Whoops, just read through the thread and noticed OP banned. Anyway, my reply still stands. I don't bother with shuffling around to disrupt servers' concentration or any other gamesmanship type stuff. I'm just trying to play better tennis, little by little, but hopefully steadily improving. Anticipation is one very important key to winning tennis, imho. No, need to be jumping around on the baseline ... do need to learn to concentrate and anticipate.

    In fact, I don't want my opponents to be annoyed or intimidated or etc. into playing anything less than their best tennis.
     
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  9. Fintft

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    Of course you should do that, also according to commies such as Brad Gilbert in order to "take away that serve"...
     
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  10. Wow, what a low level attitude from the forever 3.0! So you want your opponents to enjoy themselves and play their best and feel comfortable on the court against you?
     
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  11. Fintft

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    Actually I do it until they can prove to me that they can consistently vary their serve placement...
     
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    :)
    If you're going to insult someone on this forum it should be funny, or at least make sense. That's a forum rule, I think. :) Maybe that's why your earlier incarnations here got banned. :)

    I've been a 3.0 for about 1.5 years, since coming back at 65 with active Crohn's disease. I've been able to play tennis maybe 10 months out of that year and a half. In 75-76, when I played for about a year, I was probably a 4.0+ competitor (judging by what I've experienced in the past 1.5 years).
    Most importantly, I'm improving.
    So much for "forever 3.0".

    As for you calling my attitude "low level", I think you've got it backwards. People who are satisfied with winning because of their opponents' misfortune or bad play have a "low level" attitude. Playing for fun and to improve, and wishing the same for one's opponents, is a rather higher level attitude, I should think.
     
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  13. I have no earlier incarnations here. My posts were reported and the mods confirmed peoples assumptions of me being an old poster were wrong.

    I know a guy who has your attitude, he got annoyed when i said "come on", he got annoyed if I scrambled and sliced and moonballed and did whatever it took for me to win. He wanted to play clean tennis win or lose. He was French so i guess that explains it.

    I want to make my opponents feel like sheet on the court. I want them to feel the pressure of my return and double fault as a result. I want them to go for too much on there shots as they cant hit past me any other way and rack up tonnes of unforced errors. I want them to feel helpless that they have no way of winning points against me.
     
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  14. Rozroz

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    i sometimes do a bit of side stepping to confuse an opponent,
    but i do it only on smart moment, like when HE HAS to win a game so he's more stressed and might fail more easily.
    depends on who you're up against. usually i can get 1-2 DFs in a match.
     
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    I love this attitude. There is no sweeter feeling that when you're both playing lights-out tennis.

    I still play to win, but it's so much more satisfying when you beat someone and you know that they were on top of their game. Losing when I've been at my best hurts, but it gives me more positives to build around and improve upon, rather than the negative feelings when you've had a stinker.
     
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  16. Shroud

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    sure I move around. Its the returner's responsibility to try to get in the servers head.

    My favorite thing to do is to set up for a normal return and while the ball is in the air, move as close as I can to the service line. I am usually good enough to chip the return from there and make it to the net. Its a big surprise for most opponents.

    Sometimes I'll setup on the service line on 2nd serves just to get in their head. I know I can handle most second serves from the service line and for most servers, having some one at the service line is offputting.

    And I grew up expecting to win my serve, lose the opponents and get to the tie breaker, so I dont mind taking risks on returns.
     
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  17. NLBwell

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    Does your husband know about this?
     
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    I dont think she is trolling , in Nick Bollettierri's lesson series "right back atcha"(return of serve). There is a part of the video where He talks about faking return position and how it will give you advantage. For example, if your backhand return is weak, you can move over to your backhand a bit, and trick your opponent into serving to your forehand,when your opponent toss and get lose their sight,you move back. He spents few good minutes talking and showing different examples about it.
     
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  19. TomT

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    Notice the smilies I put in my statement about that. :)
    Maybe he doesn't quite have "my attitude" exactly. I don't get annoyed when people cheer for themselves when they make a good shot. I certainly don't get annoyed by scrambling, slicing, moonballing players. That's good clean tennis. I like to play people who really get caught up in the spirit of intense competition, and scrambling, slicing, moonballing players often present quite a challenge. Makes the game more interesting.

    What does annoy me is when I make really stupid shots, and when I get lazy about fundamentals (like not watching the ball and not getting myself into a good position to hit a decent shot). It also annoys me when somebody is obviously cheating.

    Not that faking return position is cheating. Nothing especially wrong with it. I just don't bother with it, that's all. I do sometimes use head and body fakes when I'm at the net.
    :confused: Hmmmm. Ooh, yeah. :) hahaha ... What!
    You sound like Conan The Tennis Barbarian: I want to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentation of their women! :) hahaha

    Well, you know, different strokes for different folks. For myself, I want to develop better habits regarding fundamentals (focus, footwork, etc.). Maybe if I get really good then I'll worry about the emotional state of my opponent, but for now it seems like sort of an unnecessary, and mostly speculative, thing to be concerned with.
     
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  20. PhrygianDominant

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    But....but...that's what's good in life.....
     
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  21. TomT

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    Yeah, especially the part about women's lamentations. :) What!? :confused:

    By the way, I like your avatar of Andre The Tennis Barbarian from back in the day. He never should have gone egghead bald, imho. :) hahahaha
     
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