Do you prefer to return from the ad or deuce side?

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  1. dlam

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    Which side do you prefer to return from (deuce or ad side)and why?
    What changes do you make when returning serves from the nonpreferred side ?
     
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  2. S&V Specialist

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    Ad side (unless my opponent has the stupid lefty slice). It's where the most important points are.
     
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    I'm not a big believer in putting the stronger returner on the ad side. I find this leads to the stronger returner having to save a lot of ad in points and generally playing from behind in the game. I like to put the stronger returner on the deuce side to so he's receiving in the neutral situations (e.g. 0-0 or 30-all) to get ahead in the game, create more break opportunities, and put more pressure on the server. Unless you're playing a clutch big server this can also result in seeing more serves that the weaker returner can get into play or even attack.
     
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  4. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I have two regular partners. For one I play the deuce and the other the ad.

    I always go with this philosophy .... if my partner has a strong preference I will play the other side. But if I had to chose I usually go AD side ... especially if it is a lefty.

    I love returning leftys.
     
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  5. kelkat

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    My return is probably one of my strongest aspects my game (doubles). I like the ad side b/c my backhand is much for efficient on this side. I am really able to turn my shoulder and lean into it, where as on the deuce side it's more difficult. However, on the deuce side I can really pull the op out wide with my topspin forehand. But generally, Im an ad girl. Plus are volleys down the middle are forehands:)
     
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  6. OHBH

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    In singles I prefer the deuce side because it is much easier to direct the return down the line and come crashing into the net. In doubles I play the ad side because I have the forehand in the middle and I can cover all the lobs.
     
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  7. chatt_town

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    fI return well from both sides but several thoughts go into which side I play on any given match. Who I'm playing with and how well they return. I return massive kick serves better from the deuce side....I generally lob it back into play but it is much easier from the deuce side if it kicks away from you. :)


     
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  8. NLBwell

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    In singles it doesn't matter to me. In doubles I prefer the ad side since I'm much better going cross-court from that side. I like to go up the line from the deuce side in singles.
     
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    Assuming we're talking dubs here, I have a slight preference for the ad court, because my inside out FH return is better than my inside out BH return (I'm RH).

    In singles I return better from the duece court because my forehand is generally stronger, and I don't have to go for the BH return inside out (can just hit it DTL).

    EDIT: Just saw NLBwell's post - must have been posting at the same time, but I think we're saying exactly the same thing!
     
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  10. AtomicForehand

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    I prefer the ad court, because most of the important points happen there, and I tend to be more clutch than most people. I like the responsibility of having to "save" the game or having to win it for the team. Seems to me most people panic when in the same position. I like the pressure.
     
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  11. LeeD

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    Makes no difference, except to my partner, who might have his own preferences.
    Either side, you still have to go sharp CC most returns, DTL once in 4 if poaching is a tactic, cover mid to high center balls you can reach, so who cares what side you play?
    Now if you can't hit CC on one side, you may have a preference.
     
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  13. InspectorRacquet

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    I return on the ad-side because as a right hander, if I were to swing a bit late on a big serve, I would still direct the ball away from the net person in doubles.
     
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  14. LeeD

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    would a big server tend to target your forehand side only..
    what if they target your backhand side...
     
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    assuming its doubles, i prefer ad just because i'd rather hit an inside out forehand back at the server than hit an inside backhand back and the server from the deuce court. i will return up the alley too every once in a while if i see the netman start to inch cc.
     
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    I prefer the duece side because it's easier to rip a cross-court forehand.

    Also, my silent little protest for playing no-ad scoring, is I always and forever play the duece side. I state that to my opponent before the match begins. I've done for a couple years now.
     
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  17. dcdoorknob

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    Similar to a couple others, in doubles, I feel like I'm better on ad, b/c I can hit an inside-out FH better/more consistenly than an inside-out BH. Also my crosscourt BH might be my best shot.

    In singles I don't have a strong preference, especially since you've got to do both anyways, I've never spent much time even thinking about it.
     
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    I'll be contrary. I'm a RH...and prefer to hit returns from the deuce...but would rather play the ad side. Somehow, along the way, I've developed a rather decent inside-out BH (probably out of necessity? and/or just am catching the ball a bit late as I get older/lazier!) and don't have the equivalent on the ad side. Also, I've a similarly decent sharp CC FH. Both reasonably reliable returns.

    Love, however, to return and come on in...for a nice FH volley pressure or outright winner on the ad side. I've certainly not developed a nice DTL BH from the ad side :( . I'll get there as a I play it more. :)
     
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    It's no surprise. Look at your location.... :)
     
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    Agree with this, I feel the deuce side is the much harder side to play and the stronger player should be on that side. I always played the ad side until recently and now I realize I was slacking on the ad side. The backhand return on the deuce side is the toughest shot to hit well.
     
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  21. Mongolmike

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    Same here... I'd rather return from deuce, but would rather play the ad, but generally I will defer if my partner has a strong preference.

    On both sides I like to go DTL, but especially on the deuce side... please, please serve me out wide... as wide as you can.... I'll run it down and rip it behind you into the alley.

    On the ad side, I have no problem with kickers going wide... it's the rockets to my BH I have trouble with. I've been working on the block slice BH return... I'm just not quick enough to set-up and bring my 1H BH around on fast serves to my BH. Deuce side is ok because being a little late on a BH return still gets the ball cross court in play.

    For play, I think it is an interesting debate which side the stronger player should play... I lean towards the stronger player anchors the match on the ad side... I don't have the statistics, but it seems like the ad side faces more game points... to either win the game or lose it... so put the better player there, or at least the steadier player.
     
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  22. LuckyR

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    I usually play ad side, but not because of return preference, rather because I usually have a better net game than my partners and I play more net points from the ad side. Needless to say, I am used to returning from there. One advantage for RHers returning from the ad side in doubles is that a lot of doubles players, are really singles players and thus like to serve up the T, which, of course is a FH return from the ad and an inside out BH from the deuce side (very difficult esp when the netman is looking to make a FH poach).
     
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    I think this theory is very solid.

    There is a lot to be said for keeping your opponents under pressure. Personally, I hate serving down break point to the ad court.

    In fact, I think I am much more likely to serve well in mixed when the opposing male is in the ad court. If he is in the deuce court and gets me down break point, I can get a little tight serving to the woman in the ad court.

    For ladies play, it seems rare to find a woman who likes to poach aggressively on her BH wing. Might as well have the weaker returner on the ad side, who won't feel like she has to work hard to get the ball past an active poacher.
     
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  24. storypeddler

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    Deuce side. Powerful crosscourt forehand or backhand lob over net man and charge the net.
     
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  25. atatu

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    Well if the only shot you can hit on the bh side is a lob, your opponents are going to adjust and pretty soon they will be hitting overheads right at your partner....
     
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    i was always naturally better at returning from the ad side.
    but I developed equally strong ROS from deuce side.
    I dont think it really matters in doubles for me.
    I like the Bryans strategy to play the wing that fits better for you at the net.
    As they pick the side that like to poach from.
     
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  27. corbind

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    Ad side for sure...

    • Serve to my BH I naturally hit crosscourt
    • Serve to my FH I can hit at the net man or inside out
    • Net man less apt to poach as it will go to his BH

    I can see why people like returning serve from deuce side for the natural FH crosscourt. Yet a serve down the T to the BH absolutely sucks as it's to the weaker wing and often the net man will poach/crush for a winner. Yuck.
     
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  28. lobman

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    If my partner has a real preference I'm good on either. If given the choice I usually take the ad side if I think partner is a little hesitant taking big points even though on deuce side I have a pretty good DTL backhand and my backhand volleys are stronger than forehands.
     
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  29. athiker

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    I preferred the ad side for a long time. I think it's easier and the return game is usually not my strong suit in doubles. Easier because most opponents are right handed and are more effective poachers during a deuce serve.

    I've worked on shortening my backswing on returns so I'm not late and opening up my stance on deuce returns and have less of a preference now. Still on the deuce side I prefer if my opponent serves to my backhand.
     
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  30. duketennisgal

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    I prefer the ad side because I have a really strong inside out forehand and probably 75% of serves go to my forehand when I play the ad side. However, in women's doubles, I play whichever side my partner feels less comfortable playing and in mixed I tend to play the deuce court bc the man always wants the ad side. I'm fine in the deuce court because my inside out backhand is a pretty strong shot. Also, in mixed most guys tend to serve up the middle to the women's backhand for some reason (at least that's what I've come across). I never understand why that's the case because I think it's much easier to handle a serve with a ton of pace with by two handed backhand instead of a one handed forehand. I always tell my mixed partner to serve to the women's forehand because it's harder for her to get much pace behind it with one hand and it's much easier for me to pick off the return!
     
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    deuce

    What s/he said. You need better returns from deuce to eliminate poaching, which rarely occurs with service into ad (bh poach for rh net opponent, and a lh net opponent starts at net only one game out of every four games).
    Also puts better player into more proactive role shaping future of each return game instead of digging team out of 40-30 points over and over.

     
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    My return is one of my best shots, i can hit a winner of most peoples serve on the ad side
     
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  33. Nostradamus

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    On ad side. you just have to deal with the big kick serve to your backhand. going inside out with the forehand is easy.

    Anyway, there are some Idiot teaching pros that believe, players have side that they return well from and they should always play there. Not true, you should be proficient enough to make adjustments to your partner.

    If you are much better player than your partner, you play the AD side because that is where most important points are played. but if you are equal and your 1-handed backhand can't handle the big kick serve then you play the deuce side
     
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  34. LeeD

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    Makes no difference whatsoever.
    You have to learn how to make the court shape work in your favor.
     
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  35. TenS_Ace

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    ad-side for sure! Coaches tell me Agassi learned his backhand return from me :twisted:...
     
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    Thread revival...
     
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  37. Fintft

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    In doubles, isn't it easier to return from the deuce side, since the opponents are serving mainly to your FH?
     
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  38. spaceman_spiff

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    Except smart servers, who will serve down the middle over and over if you have a weak backhand. And then, when you move over to protect your weakness, they slice out wide for an ace.
     
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