Do you think Hewitt or Safin have a chance to get into the Hall of Fame?

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  1. Markov

    Markov Semi-Pro

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    I was just wondering what do they usually demand from
    the candidates? Does anybody know?
     
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  2. AM95

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    they bill both get in..allthough i think neither of them deserve to.

    to get into HOF is to easy nowadays.
     
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  3. djokovicgonzalez2010

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    Hewitt by miles...
     
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  4. Anaconda

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    Yes, Safin won 2 slams beating the 2 GOAT's without really caring about his career. Federer wouldn't be on 16 slams now if Safin showed up more regularly.

    Hewitt won 2 slams and Maxed out his limited style without the weapons of someone say Safin.

    Both of them deserve and will be in HOF!
     
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  5. LameTennisPlayer

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    This is gonna sound contraditory but

    Hewitt deserves to be there,
    Safin doesn't

    although I loved Safin's game, and hated Hewitt....
     
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  6. wangs78

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    If Safin got in it would be due to the almost universal view that he had loads of talent and not because of his accomplishments. 2 GS titles is nice but he was far too inconsistent, so his resume doesn't really qualify him but I think his talent will get him in.
     
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  7. Cyan

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    Yeah. Chang did it so...
     
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  8. joeri888

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    Hewitt easily. Safin, maybe. I rate Safin's career much lower than guys like Hewitt, Roddick etc. Probably even Carlos Moya. I rate endurance, and staying up there very high. However, most of Safin's collapse wasn't mental, it was injuries. Therefore, I think he should be hall of fame, if Chang's there, why not Safin?
     
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  9. tacou

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    both are locks. both reached number 1, both won multiple slams and masters. that is the point of the hall of fame, not to weed out a handful of men from every generation but to showcase all the talents that played the game. if you think multiple major winning world number ones don't belong in the hall of fame then you've got quite the standards
     
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  10. cork_screw

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    In total agreeance.


     
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  11. petetheileet

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    yeah both should be there

    They have both left a lasting impression on the game, both won davis cup also winning epic matches along the way!

    both made 4 slam finals and won 2.

    two of the youngest ever number 1's

    why shouldnt they be there???
     
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  12. kOaMaster

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    hewitt for sure.
     
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  13. djokovicgonzalez2010

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    Yeah.... no way should Hewitt not be there. Safin has got a shot.
     
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  14. davey25

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    Yes, both will make the HOF. Hewitt would be even more certain to as his credentials and career is superior to Safin, and that is what is judged first and foremost in this sort of thing, not subjective opinions of talent or peak level of play. However both will make it.
     
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  15. Kobble

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    If Chang is in, so should Safin and Hewitt. Safin has made the Semis at all four majors. Neither has done as much as Courier, except Safin beating Sampras and Federer.

    Now, Roddick, on the other hand, is questionable. I say no for Roddick. Even though he is famous.
     
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  16. Markov

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    Yeah I definitely think that they should be in. I was just thinking if they do have some exact requirements in the HOF, like "a player must win a certain number of Masters series and Grand Slam titles" or something like that. Like they had a book which said basically that "win 25 titles and you're in, win 24 and you have no chance". Because someone told me something like this in the past.. Well, hopefully it isn't true. Seems like it isn't :) Roddick's case is interesting, btw.
     
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  17. pound cat

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    Not only did he win 2 slams and get to #1, Safin was a huge ticket seller for every tournament he played in right until the day he retired and he also was the media darling for the 12 years he played.

    A shoo-in
     
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  18. anointedone

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    I think it is time they start to tighten the standards again. The game is getting to the point it is building enough history and with all 4 slams now active enough new true champions they shouldnt be desperate to just let anyone in. Yannick Noah, Jana Novotna, and even Gabriela Sabatini being inducted was a new low for the Hall of Fame. If people keep using the worst inductees as barometers than the minimum standard for accpetance will just keep creeping gradually lower. What will be next, in 2018 Patty Schnyder and Fernando Verdasco inducted into the Hall of Fame (and no neither will ever win a slam by then barring a miracle).

    It is time they toughen the standards again and the equivalent of those 3 shouldnt make it in the future. With tougher standards it is very possible none of Safin, Hewitt, or Roddick make it, although they still might eke in as each is more worthy than Noah and Novotna by far.
     
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  19. Mustard

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    Both Hewitt and Safin are legends of tennis. They should definitely be in the hall of fame.
     
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  20. malakas

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    no "a chance".

    They're in for sure.100% sure.No point having a thread about it.
     
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  21. anointedone

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    They are both excellent players but I have a much tougher standard for what defines being a legend. I definitely think "legends" of tennis should have more than 2 slams, atleast a brief period of dominance stronger than Hewitt's in late 2001-early 2003, and more than just 5-6 years staying in the top 10 (and even in that Safin and Hewitt both dropped out at points). Atleast I dont mind either making the Hall as much as Noah and Novotna who were a joke, but I still want to see the standards for the Hall of Fame get much tougher again. It seems they just keep creeping in the other direction to the point it is getting almost scary what is somehow getting through.

    Kafelnikov and Krajicek havent been inducted yet have they? I sure hope not, and I sure hope neither does.
     
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  22. JeMar

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    Kafelnikov will end up there someday. Krajicek... maybe, not maybe not.

    Hewitt and Safin belong there too.
     
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  23. anointedone

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    IMO Kafelnikov is the weakest 2 slam winner in history, discounting some of the flukes who won the then "non slam" Australian Open twice say 1982 or earlier. I dont even consider im a 2 slam calibre player despite that by some miracle he has 2. Krajicek I actually think is a silghtly better player than Kafelnikov. I would put either in the Hall of Fame though and I hope neither ever gets in.
     
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  24. C++ Primer

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    both can make it for sure
     
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  25. kishnabe

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    If both aren't there in 5 years after they retired, then their HOF System is a fail!
     
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  27. kingdaddy41788

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    In total agreement
     
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    Does it matter? It's just a stupid museum that I doubt most people have even been to. They could pick a random tramp off the street and induct them and it wouldn't really affect anyone.

    Really, of all the issues in tennis, this is one I don't see how any one can get passionate about.
     
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  29. Elina

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    Yes, they'll both get in without any problems. :)
     
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  30. LameTennisPlayer

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    lol.... im not sure i agree but pretty funny post....
     
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  31. big bang

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    Safin is a legend, some of the best tennis I have ever seen was when Safin was on. I sure hope he gets in.
    Hewitt? no I dont see him as a legend in any way. awfull personallity and annoying behaviour allways made me hate the guy!
     
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  32. tintin

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    Safin has 2 slams
    and probably 3 Davis Cups

    Hewitt got 2 slams and 1 or 2 Davis Cups too so yes

    Hewitt should retire cuz he sure as hell ain't gonna win another major ever again
     
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  33. diggler

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    Hewitt won 2 Masters Cups and was a 2 time end of year number 1. If he doesn't make it you would only have a dozen guys qualify for the hall of fame.
     
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  34. diggler

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    http://www.tennisfame.com/ithof.aspx?pgID=871

    •A distinguished record of competitive achievement at the highest international level, with consideration given to integrity, sportsmanship and character.

    oops. There goes Hewitt's application.
     
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  35. rommil

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    It's about $11. Everytime I go to Newport I always try to stop in.lol
     
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  36. tacou

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    ya but he's much more accomplished than Marat let's be honest

    and I don't think Hewitt has an awful personality at all, for the record
     
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  37. Dedans Penthouse

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    If Yannick Noah and Jana Novotna were inducted into the HOF, then both Hewitt & Safin should be a slam dunk.

    Highest Ranking:
    -Hewitt = No. 1
    -Safin = No. 1

    -Novotna = No. 2
    -Noah = No. 3


    Number of Grand Slams titles:
    - Hewitt = 2
    - Safin = 2

    - Novotna = 1
    - Noah = 1

    And Novotna's most famous 'tennis' moment was her bawling and slobbering on the shoulder of the Dutchess of Kent after her stunning choke against Graf in the '93 Wimbledon finals.

    That Noah won the French Open with such crappy groundstokes would've been a mystery save for the fact that Mats Willander uncharacteristically "blinked" (i.e. choked) that day in the face of a very partisan Roland Garros crowd. .
     
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  38. drakulie

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    The real question is,,,,,,,

    how many women will escort Safin to the speaking platform when he gives his speech.
     
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