Do you think Roddick made a mistake changing his game?

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  1. Anaconda

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    Actually, my response was not about this point of view (bolded). It was about this bolded part underneath.





    I understand posters like you suffer from ignorance and a lack of reading skills, but please get real. Federer at no point in sets 3 and 4 outplayed Roddick. Roddick should have won the 4th set, and really should have won that 3rd. Now, I'm not saying 100% that Roddick would have won that match if the rain didn't come, but I actually watched that match and am entitled to an opinion. My opinion is that Roddick would have won the 3rd set. Not necessarily the 4th or a hypothetical 5th set. What happens if Roddick wins the 3rd? Gets confident and easily takes the 4th (he could have been a double break up in the fourth remember)? Who knows, but to dismiss the argument as if Federer would have won regardless is silly to say the least.
     
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  2. Sid_Vicious

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    We were discussing the events in the 3rd set and by saying that Federer "clearly outplayed Roddick", I was talking about the manner in which Federer got the break back from Roddick. He returned and struck the ball beautifully to earn the break.

    The rest of the match was indeed close, but I disagree. Roddick was outplayed by Federer. By "outplaying", I don't mean that Federer gave Roddick a spanking. I mean that Federer played the big points better than Roddick. When they reached the tiebreaker in the 3rd set, Federer was the one who won the tiebreaker with 3 minibreaks. It is absurd to say that Roddick "could have been up a double break" in the 4th because Roddick played poor tennis on all of them.Why should Roddick get credit for his heinous returning and errors on break point. Better yet, where do you want to draw the line on these hypotheticals? Using this reasoning, Federer could have broken back Roddick in the 1st set (he had 3 BPs at 1-2 in the 1st set) and squeezed out the first set in a tiebreaker? Why not? To dismiss this argument would also be silly to say the least.

    Yes, you are entitled to your opinion and I never denied you that. Keep in mind that you are the one who started this discussion.
     
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  3. 1477aces

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    Before rain delay: Roddick up 4-2
    after rain delay: roddick is suddenly down 4-5 0-40. Simple. It was the rain that fazed him, causing him to lose three straight games and go down 0-40. If it weren't for that delay, roddick would have taken the 3rd set. We can't speculate about the fourth and fifth sets, but keep in mind no has come back down 2 sets to 1 or 2 sets to love in a wimbledon final since 1982.
     
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  4. Warmaster

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    You don't know that. Federer had already broken Roddick before. Who says Roddick would have served out the set?
     
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  5. 1477aces

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    Had a much better chance to do so at least. Two holds from Roddick seemed fairly likely.
     
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