Do you use head guard protection tape?

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  1. Maestro Nalbandian

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    Notice theres already a thread on this page but its a little misleading talking about lead tape.
     
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    I use the Wilson and Head versions of the bumper tape. I don't notice a difference in weight. Its a pretty thick tape, much thicker than electrical tape. It works well and you can see the rips in the tape that may have been scratches on the bumper.
     
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    i used to use head guard protection tape but i stopped, mainly because I don't have time to go to the store and buy any
     
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    I use Babolat black headguard tape. It is durable and protects the head from scrapes well. I think the weight change is not much, if any.
     
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    That's what I'm worried about, the thicker tape will surely add weight to the head? I like to keep the head light balance of my racquet.
     
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    Do you have a scale? It couldn't weigh much.

    I put 10 inches on and I can't tell much difference. I wish it weighed more, then I wouldn't have to get lead tape.
     
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    if your worried about the weight of it, think about the fact that a whole overgrip like the yonex overgrap, pretty thick, is about 3 grams, the single 10 inch tape your talking about would provably be half that, max 2 grams, not enough to be noticed by most people

    but if your really concern about this, do what i did and pick up a letter scale at walmart, they are under $20, specially good if you have more then 1 similar racquets you play with and need to balance your racquets
     
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    I don't use it, I'm not bothered by scratches on the bumper guard. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect SW.
     
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    head tape from 2oclock to 10 oclock , roughly 2-3grams... overgrip VS weight 4.2-4.5g... wilson and yonex overgrip is +/- 6.5grams...
     
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    I use hockey tape and any additional weight added is not apparent. While using head tape may add a gram or two to weight to the head gradually scraping away the bumper guard during play will reduce weight in the head also probably by an indiscernable amount.
     
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    I use it, but I don't always add it immediately after stringing.
    I can't tell any difference before or after application.
     
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    When I use wilson or head tape, I do not notice a huge difference in weight, but I notice a huge difference in weight change for Gamma head tape. Wilson/Head tape doesn't protect the racquet as well as the Gamma tape, so its really up to your personal preference.
     
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    IMO this looks silly...as long as your not abusive with your racquet it doesn't take that many licks...if you are abusive that tape isn't going to help -
     
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    Head tape prevents the occasional scratches against the ground for slices which could cause paint chips - and has kept my racquets in great shape if I were to ever sell them.
     
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    Ranking?

    Would y'all care to compare/rank the head tapes you have used?
    • Babolat
    • Ektelon
    • Gamma
    • Wilson
    • ...
    Thanks.
     
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  17. Maestro Nalbandian

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    The Babolat black headguard tape weighs 4 grams on my scale. I used this http://www.usrsa.com/store/learningcenter/lc_combinedswtbal.html customizer to calculate it's effect on swingweight. In short, it increases stock SW from 322 to 335! Racquet used- RDS001MP strung weight 330g.

    Does that sound right or am I missing something? That's a big change in SW.
     
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    I've always used Babolat head tape on my racquets. Definitely keeps scratches from occuring and keeps the frames looking nice if I ever sell them.
     
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    i don't use any. i restring pretty often and wouldn't want to mess with it.
     
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    Any thoughts anyone?
     
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  21. Richie Rich

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    why use headtape? bumpers are easily replaced
     
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  22. JavierLW

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    Bumpers dont always cover the whole frame, and you are more likely to scrape the sides of the frame then the tip of it.

    I use it because Im paranoid about getting sweat on the strings where they are weaved thru the grommets (natural gut strings). Probally silly, but oh well....
     
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  23. PBODY99

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    Yes I use it on the sides of the frame from 2 to 4 & 8 to 10 o'clock. This cuts down on the cosmetic nicks when the old knees don't quite allow me to get into position.
    When a customer's frame needs a new bumper, I wile carefully use tape to "tide them over" until the next stringing,if they leave a deposit for the new head guard.
     
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    im currently using some grap tape thing. a huge roll of it is probably only $5 and it works great
    its lined with string or thread or something, dunno what its meant to be used for but i stole it from the garage and put it on my racket head haha
     
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  25. Vermillion

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    no, I break my strings too fast.

    Also, they cost too much.
     
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    no, I break my strings too fast.

    Also, they cost too much.
     
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  27. Maestro Nalbandian

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    Any thoughts on this?
     
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    I also use the Babolat. I put on 2 layers and overlap them by 2/3rds. That way it covers the entire beam and adds a bit or extra protection to the top of the head. Two layers is about 4-5 grams. This will definitely increase swingweight since it's basically being added at 12 o'clock (continuously from 10-2 o'clock)
     
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    The bumpers are meant to protect the strings. It's usually the racquet (side of the beam) that ends up with scrapes on it.
     
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    Pro tape..........

    We use Head Protection Tape(HPT) here and we try to get our customers to do the same, as it really protects the racquets bumperguard. Babolats Super tape is the thinnest and lightest, but it also wears the quickest. Gamma Guard is a cloth based tape so it's a little heavier and more durable. The tape adds approx 2-4g for a 12" length, so you can use the link to calc SW. I use 2 layers of tape as opposed to adding weight to the 10 and 2 positions on my racquet; 2 birds one(2)tape.

    Our reasoning for suggesting the tape is that it's a lot cheaper to replace the tape than it is to replace the bumper and grommets. Even it you string a lot it's still cheaper with HPT. We have a customer here that uses a Wilson KFactor 90 and rips through his bumper in a matter of weeks. He was going through a grommet set a month. We got him to use a little HPT from Gamma and now he is saving a lot of money as he goes through 2 to 3 sets of grommets a year. Hope this helps.

    TennezSport :cool:
     
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    If you're wearing out regular bumper guards, you're doing something wrong. I've never had to replace a bumper guard in my life, aside from the one on my racquet that I had when I was 9 (which I treated like trash.)

    The bumper argument aside, all the tape really does is prevent scratching, which I believe is actually a bad thing. Scratching shoes signs of damage in a racquet, and when you sell a racquet in "like new" condition to someone that ends up cracking, I can't help but think that person was scammed.

    The tape won't prevent damage to the racquet itself, only the paint.
     
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  32. peli_kan

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    I disagree. Head tape is enough to reduce the shock significantly, considering the normally high impulse of a racquet to court collision.

    Sorry to necro, but this is a great thread. I have a question of my own: how does Unique's ad Wilson's head tape stack up against Gamma's? If I remember right, Unique's was rather thin but clothlike, while Wilson's was thicker but gooey and lasted longer.
     
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    Come on now... a few inches of thin tape won't add enough weight to the racquet for you to even notice it and impact your game.

    I use it only to protect the grommets. Replacing them is not fun.

    r,
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    They're placed at the end of the frame. Say that a long strip weighs 4g; that's a 10% increase in swingweight.
     
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    ^^ We're nowhere near the level of the pros to even notice that. Adding a significant amount of lead however is different.

    If you were to pick up two identical models, one with tape and one without, and without looking at the head you'd never know there is tape on one of them.

    It's knowing it is there that plays on people's minds. :)

    What if I did this? Or that? or add this? or remove that? or ...... :)

    r,
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  36. tennytive

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    I use Gamma Guard, which is virtually the same as gaffer's tape. I place it from 8 to 4 o'clock mostly to protect the grommets and guard for my POGOS which have or have not, depending on what I read, been discontinued.

    Before I press the tape in place, I cut slits every few inches to try and avoid crimping around the curved edges. My rackets were both bought used with several nicks and scratches, so the tape tells me how many I put on myself. So far, only one.

    Weight is negligible… I don't notice at all.
     
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  37. MayDay

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    Used tape when I got my first racket - it was kind of like a "new car" thing... ...but after a while, I just got tired of it and never re-taped after a couple string jobs.

    During the time I used tape, it did make slight swing weight difference which just need a little adjustment on timing.

    Maybe it's just me, but why hide the paintjob? It's a race car, use it!
     
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  38. The_Question

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    If you use 2 sometimes 3 layers like I do, you'll notice the difference.

    I've used Prince, Gamma, Babolat, now it's HEAD. I like HEAD so far, cost and protects better than other brands...
     
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    I use the black Babolat Super Head Tape with white letters.

    It protecxts the frame from getting scracted, while not as protective as the Gamma Cloth Tape, it still adds some protection.

    I normally use two pieces on each frame, and have my 2 X 1.5 gram Babolat Lead Tape added at 10 and 2 under the Head protection tape, so you can't see nor touch the lead tape.

    I reuse the lead tape twice, when I change the strings in my racquets.

    I would never play without the protection tape, the grommets only protects the strings, not the sides of the frame.
     
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  40. fattsoo

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    Yeah and it's too much work ripping off the tape everytime I restringing my racquet
     
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    Protection Tape is Silly.

    I used to use it but stopped because...

    ...it affects your rackets weight and thus balance.
    ...it makes your racket less aerodynamic, especially when it gets torn up or
    it covers Prince O-Ports.
    ...it's probaby more expensive to keep replacing than just getting a new
    guard every now and then.
    ...it's definitely more annoying to keep replacing than just getting a new
    guard every now and then.
    ...stringers hate that stuff.
    ...it's best to treat your racket like a peice of sports equipment as opposed
    to protecting it like it's a work of art.
    ...it looks pretty amateurish.
     
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  42. Keifers

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    Protection tape as a subsititute for lead tape

    I've used protection tape many times instead of lead tape to add weight at 3:00 and 9:00 and 12:00, especially when I've experimenting to find out where and how much weight I want to add.

    It's much easier to put on and take off than lead tape. Takes a whole lot less time and effort.
     
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  43. The_Question

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    I used to cut holes at the O ports when I was using the O3 Tour...

    Never had problem taking off the protection tape. The only time I had a problem was taking off some tape that was on there since 1991. The glue turned solid.


    I suppose you dress up like a pro when you play? Hehehe...
     
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    I use gamma head tape and I use it from 9 to 3, sometime an inch past the 9/3 positions. I volley a lot and scrape the head even at 9/3 positions.

    I think it is about 18-20 inches long and weighs about 4-5 gms. This definitely changes the swingweight for me.

    Most guys use a lot less than me.. so it would be ~2 gms for most.. effectively felt at 12 position, which makes a difference.
     
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  45. MethodTennis

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    wilson is best imo ektelon used once was awful Gamma and babolat are quite good
     
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    Yonex Head Guard Tape

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    i haven tried it yet, just came in from Japan.

    I usually use the Babolat Super Tape and Technifibre Guard Tape
     
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    I use the Gamma from around 3 to 9 and I think it changes the weight noticeably; however, I have never measured it. I use it mainly because I'm anal and don't like tearing up my bumper and frame, pure and simple, no other reason. I've played tennis with some young bucks whose parents bought them the racquets and they bang them around, spike them and treat them like poo in general. Not my style, not when I'm shelling out the bucks to buy the crap. Treating my racquet well saves me money so I can blow it on my shoe fetish or whatever. Now that I have used head tape for so long, I can really tell the difference when I pull it off. I don't care for the wilson or the unique.
     
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    I use it too, replacing grommets is not a fun thing to do. A roll of protection tape costs about $10. That is not expensive.
     
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    My PSTs are apparently a royal pain to put new grommets in, so I want to avoid that if I can with head tape.
     
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