Do you use multiple racquets in a match?

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  1. FriarTuck

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    I am 3.5 player in my 2nd year of rec league play and I'm just now getting into competitive tennis. I have recently purchased a couple different racquets to replace my 5 year old 110 sq inch, 9 oz Wilson nCode nFury racquet that I used as a beginner. I chose the Wilson BLX Blade 98 as my main racquet and recently purchased a Wilson BLX 6.1 95 as my backup/alternate racquet. I thought about buying a 2nd Blade 98, but I actually thought it might really help me to have a 2nd racquet that plays more control.

    For instance, tonight I had a match against a guy and the first set we were both hitting the ball fairly hard from the baseline and I won the set 6-3. The Blade 98 worked great for that style of play as my opponent was giving me a lot of pace and depth to work with and I was able to hit with a lot of power and depth back with my Blade. However, in the 2nd set, my opponent began to short ball and drop shot me to death and I was having a hard time putting away those shots and he won 6-3. We played a 10 point tiebreak instead of a 3rd set and I switched to my 6.1 95. The 95 (16x19 pattern) gave me a lot more control and I was able to hit those short balls and drop shots to the corners with pace and spin and they stayed in, whereas with the Blade I was less confident about those shots staying in the court. I won the tiebreak 10-6 and at least somewhat contribute that to the racquet switch.

    Do any of you use multiple/different racquets during a match based on style of play?
     
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  2. g4driver

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    If I'm playing singles, I rotate through two or three of the matched frames (same strings, weights and SWs) depending on the temperature and humidity and more importantly if I am getting pushed.

    If I'm getting pushed, I will use at least two, possibly three frames as try to let the grips dry by changing out frames during the changeovers.

    Last week, I played a 2 hour 45 min Singles match that went 2 sets and a 10 point TB. Tonight the match was over in less than an hour. I didn't even need to shower as I didn't break a sweat, but I had to wash off the bug spray before going to bed, yes I took a shower. :)
     
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  3. jmjmkim

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    I always buy rackets in pairs. Personally, I think one should stick to one racket and adjust play with that racket. If you start switching rackets during a match to adjust to the opponent's tactics or changes in style of play, there would be too much variable from your end. Especially being a recreational player, the unforced errors would come from other factors than from the equipment.

    Also, the body is very sensitive. During a match, when I break a string and change to my other, identical racket (model, grip shape & size, over-grip, same string and tension, etc.) it still takes a little adjustment to the change.

    But if anything, it just looks cooler showing up at a match with identical rackets, rather than three or more of different ones.
     
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  4. FriarTuck

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    Yeah, there was definitely an adjustment to drastic weight difference of the 6.1 95 and I should probably be able to play all the shots with one type of racquet. I need to work on my put away shot technique from the middle of the court. It just really seemed to work well for me and I could see myself liking the more control oriented racquet versus an opponent who hits a slower ball, which happens to be a lot of players at the 3.5 level, especially older guys.

    Tomorrow I'm playing a friend who is a solid 4.0 and has the groundstrokes and serve of a 4.5 or higher (just can't move well) and I won't even consider pulling the 95 out of the bag because I need all the power I can get out of the Blade 98 to compete with his very heavy groundstrokes.

    But yeah, I know most people have matched pairs and it does look cool :).
     
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  5. tennis tom

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    No. Three sticks all the same, from the same manufacturing run. Prince Original Graphite Mid Tour. Two with gut, (VS Black 16) one with Vokle nylon, in case it's wet.

    It's not the violin, it's the violinist.
     
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    To intimidate by opponents, I use a new racket each game. I bring along my personal stringer and a crew to cart around two Baiardos.

    If I'm losing I would stage a scene where I yell at my stringer, fire him, have him beg for mercy, but I have my body guards drag him away.
     
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    Nadalfan89? That can't be you can it?


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  8. usta2050

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    Do any of you use multiple/different racquets during a match based on style of play?

    1. Even Nadal/Federer/Novak isn't good enough to do that.
    2. Since we don't play against the opponents Nadal/Federer/Novak faces, and our games are not consistant, changing rackets may throw our opponent off.
    3. At the end of the day, we are not good enough to deal with the variables that comes with multiple rackets. But if we are 4.5 or below, we play for nothing. Winning bring no $$$. So, try to have fun.:)
     
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    WHATT SINCE WHEN?
     
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  10. duketennisgal

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    I have three of the same racket and used to switch between those three all the time just for fresh grip and things like that. I really try to avoid that now though because I played a match and broke all three sets of strings within 2 games because I had played with them all equally and the strings all went at the same time.

    Now the only time I switch out during a match is if my grip is really wet.
     
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  11. BMC9670

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    IMO, one of the biggest reasons to switch racquets during a match (or not to) is purely mental. If you get blown out the first set, try another racquet, even if it is the same frame, string, etc. Sometimes it can help wipe the slate clean in the mind. On the other hand, if I'm winning, I tend to stick with the horse that got me there. Personally, though, I don't like to use different frames during a match - but the same with maybe a slight string tension difference.
     
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  12. fgbGirl

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    The only time I switch is if the strings just don't feel right on the racquet, usually after they have been freshly strung. But then, it's only one switch. If I see someone at my level frequently switching racquets during a match, they have bigger problems than equipment.
     
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  13. Ronaldo

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    Agree, if they switch frequently they probably are a TW poster. If they switch and twitch, that's GOAT status.
     
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  14. g4driver

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    The only reason people in my area switch frames between games is simply to allow for grips to dry. Trying playing in 85 to 95% humidity and you will understand. Last week when I walked off the court, three shirts were completely soaked. Not a dry spot on any of them. Three sets of sweatbands also soaked. So now, I bring four shirts to a singles match, so I can drive home with a dry one.

    Playing in high humidity adds another factor to tennis that isn't present when playing the humidity is low. I've lived and played tennis in CA, TX, MS, GA and now SC. We have four months of high humidity, then it gets better.
     
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    I use a couple of racquets, and rotate stringings - fresh strings being tighter, less notched, etc. I often play matches with the older strung racquet and may switch to the newer strings if I seem to be a little wild. Usually, I like the older strings for serving, newer strings for rallies. I would not switch between different racquet/string types - too hard for control. Also, I don't want to think that much during match and, instead, to focus on my own play - definitely agree with comments above that if I am wild, I am doing something wrong and its not the racquet.
     
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  16. tennis tom

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    WOW, the perfect string-break hat-trick! I could see that happening. I randomly use my two rackets with gut, if I were more scientific about it, I would mark them and rotate on a regular basis. The one strung with synthetic would be my go to if the two with gut broke simultaneously.

    The good thing about gut is it gives you PLENTY of warning when it's going. I did an experiment with my two gut's recently to see how long before they would break. This is in rec play, if I were playing tournaments I definitely wouldn't do it. The first one took about three weeks, playing about 2-3 hours about 4-5 days a week. I find that amazing! I can hit pretty hard at times and serve hard. I tired doing the same with the second and finally gave up when I started feeling twinges of tennis elbow and ball control was seriously being effected. There was probably another week's worth of play left in it and one string looked like it was holding by a thread. Both rackets gut stings were wearing out at the top of the sweet-spot with about four strings showing obvious fraying.

    My stringer just replaced my last racket with some cool VS Black Gut. It should make it easy to tell the two apart.
     
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  17. Jim A

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    I have 2 of the same racquets (Speedport Tour). The only difference is I string one at 62# and the other at 60#. Tend to use the lower tension for doubles, probably doesn't even make a difference.

    They aren't matched per se in exact weight, SW etc but same string, grip and change them at the same time.
     
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  18. Cindysphinx

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    Yep, that's reason enough for me.

    If you show up with three different rackets, it looks like you've just finished cleaning out the garage! :)
     
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  19. Ronaldo

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    Issue may be two different racquets not several of the same model. Most carry several of the same model in case of string breakage.
     
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  20. ChipNCharge

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    Cindy, you still swinging the original AeroPro Drive?
     
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  21. Ronaldo

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    Or a TW poser demoing racquets again. Poster
     
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  22. VaththalKuzhambu

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    No way. Showing up with 4 different rackets and using every one of them, like I do, is way cooler. Opponents' faces get grim when they see racquets being changed between games.

     
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  23. Ronaldo

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    Usually means duck before the ball hits the fence.
     
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  24. g4driver

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    When me and my two closest friends starting breaking strings every few weeks, I bought a stringer. It's the best money I've every spent considering how often I was breaking strings with X-One Bi-Phase 16g.

    So when my crosses begin to notch badly, I simply restring. X-One 16g doesn't last much longer than about 12 to 15 hours, and it's the closest thing to gut that I've found. Since I hit about 12-15 hours per week, I'm normally restringing one frame a week, sometimes two. The strings cost me $10 per frame (via reel using only 16' for crosses and 18' for mains) and 30 minutes of my time per frame.

    I tell string breakers to rotate through two frames with a third unused one in their bag to avoid the problem like you had. I don't look for stringing business and tell most string breakers to go to the local pro shop, since they string while you wait by appointment. The local store charges $15 labor and guarantees 24 hour turn around if you don't have an appointment. That is outstanding service!
     
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  25. Cindysphinx

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    When I see people changing among different rackets, I know one thing for sure: They are not happy with how they are playing.

    When my partner starts changing rackets willy nilly, I know one thing for sure: We are about to lose.
     
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  26. Paul B 40-15

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    why does everyone think that players with more than one racket in their bag must have some sort of problem with their game or they are not happy with how they are playing?
    could it be that they haven't quite found the right racket for them yet? they might not be happy with the racket instead of not being happy with their game.

    to g4driver:
    what on earth are you doing with a racket which means you have to re string it once a week?

    I play for three hours a night three nights a week, I have been using the same racket for over a month and everything still feels like new.
     
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  27. Fuji

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    I'm actually a big fan of having a back up racket in my bag, that is different from my main.

    I use my K Prostaff 88's as my main rackets, but sometimes my opponent is just not letting me play my game, (AKA opponent forcing uber long rallies), and I need a bit more forgiveness in long long baseline exchanges. This is why I carry a Pure Storm Limited, which is amazing at baseline rallies, but pales in comparison to everything else that the KPS88 does.

    All in all, if I am getting forced to hit long rallies, (10+ shots), the out comes the PSL. If I'm playing how I want to, (S&V, aggressive push the pace) then the KPS88 does exactly what I need it to.

    No racket does everything perfect, but most do everything well to an extent.

    Now if they made my 88's in a 95...... :)

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    During hard court season I have to restring weekly almost. Just a fact of life since I don't play with Polyester strings! I play around 2 hours a day, not including matches, which are on average 2.5-3.0 hours each. I usually clock in around 30 hours a week which honestly is great for a set of synthetic to last me that long. (Also, I use Multi or Gut in "match sticks", and the multi I restring weekly, while gut can last me a solid 3+ weeks)

    Plus the more spin people start to hit with, the more wear their strings get, which causes much more breakage.

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  29. bcart1991

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    Point #1: Maybe.

    Point #2: Nonsense.

    I keep a couple different frames in my bag, and they play a little differently than each other. If my opponents are not playing with much pace, I may change to a more stable, more head-heavy (or less head-light) racquet to slow my strokes down a bit.

    Conversely, if I need to be quicker with my hands, I'll switch to a whippier, more head-light frame.
     
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  30. alb1

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    I used to buy two of the same model but I always found myself liking one much better than the other cause they were never perfectly matched anyway. Now after 35 years of tennis I'm carrying 4 different rackets in my bag. Three are very close in their specs, and the other is an old time favorite from younger days. I like them all and if things are going well I'll start and finish the match with the same racket. If not I have no problem going to the bag and trying something different. It works for me.
     
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    It may be that I really haven't found my true racquet yet. I think I have found that in my BLX Blade 98, but there are times when I really like the feel and weight of the BLX 6.1 95.

    Today I played against a better player than me and won the first set in a tiebreak with the Blade 98. My friend (a larger guy) didn't have enough juice to play a 2nd or 3rd set (we played middle of the day and it was 105 degrees today) so he suggested we play 10 point tiebreaks instead of 2nd or 3rd sets. I didn't mind due to the heat and the fact that it was a friendly match. I had forgotten my towel and my grip was so wet I switched to the 6.1 95 for the 10 point tiebreak and ended up winning 12-10 with a forehand winner down the line. That last forehand felt good enough to make me consider switching to the 6.1 95 as my main racquet because I served pretty well with it as well.

    I don't know... I'm OCD when it comes to making purchases so this whole racquet search and decision is driving me crazy.
     
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  32. Fuji

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    Hey!

    I just had an idea for you! If you like the weight of the 6.1, have you tried to lead up your Blade closer to the specs of the 6.1? Maybe you can find a happy middle ground between the two.

    -Fuji
     
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  33. PBODY99

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    Same frame in sets with different string set ups, usually 2.5 kg tighter for one pair vs the other.
    Yes, weekly restrings for league and tournaments matches, as I find fresh is best.
     
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    I was actually just thinking about that. I may try adding some additional weight to the handle of the Blade to give it some additional static weight and make it a little more head light.
     
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  35. Fuji

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    I think that will make it a bit more comfortable for you! Even if you add a bit a 3 & 9 as well to help with plow through, a few grams makes a huge difference!

    Something I use is Pete Sampras Power strips. They Work like a charm! One on each side and a bit of lead to counter balance in the handle and it's amazing how much it can increase a rackets potential.

    -Fuji
     
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  36. OrangePower

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    Sure! In fact I use two at the same time - Wilson in my left hand and Head in my right. That way I can adjust from point to point, just by changing which hand I make the shot with!

    Seriously though, I think you're much better off sticking with one kind of frame, and learning to adjust your game as needed.
     
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  37. FriarTuck

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    Thanks! My goal is to move up to the true 4.0 USTA level of play and while it has more to do with my strokes than the racquet, having the right racquet for my playing style sure helps.
     
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    i break 2 string sets a week using poly. i played a match once where i broke all three of my identical frame racquets and had to borrow a racquet from the stands. i lost. you should never need two different racquets during matches. any variation in weight and balance will make your swing different thus making u hit the ball differently. find the racquet that does what you want and stick with it. but remember ull never get the perfect racquet. i wanted something will serve power, but controll on groundstrokes. i had to compromise a little on both to find a nice balance.
     
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  39. larry10s

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    its the indian not the arrow
    you need to make one stick do what you want
    when you change racquets that have different characteristics it take a few swings to groove the feel of that racquet
    that can cost you some points
    i use 3 identical racquets (vantage so i know they are identical) and rotate them as i play
    since i sweat alot and this way always have a dry handle
    as the strings wear i string them at the same time
    im lucky im not a string breaker:)
     
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  40. g4driver

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    Two weeks ago in a USTA match, I hit a forehand so hard off of a second serve the ball went through the metal chain link fence behind the baseline. My shot went in first, about a two feet from the baseline, bounced off the hard court, then exited the court through the fence. The fence was undamaged in the exchange.

    The guy at the net asked "Did he just hit a forehand through the fence?" :shock: My partner answered "Yes". I didn't realize what had happened until the opponents started looking for the ball.

    Last week I hit doubles against two 4.0s and a 4.5 on Monday night, a 4.0 Singles Match on on Tuesday night, 7.5 Combo on Wed night, a three hour USTA Single's match on Thursday night, doubles Friday am with Old Retired Guys (ORGs) because they need a 4th, then another Single's Ladder match on Saturday am. So what is that, maybe 13 hours that week minimum. I've been playing angry tennis lately. That is about the least I play in any given week. If I am on the road a few days out of the week, I will hit 5 to 6 hours per day by going out in the am and again at night.

    WC Black5Edge Mains strung at 54lbs and X-One Bi-Phase 16g 57 lbs last about 12 to 15 hours max. That is why I restring one frame each week. I just strung one tonight while watching the Lincoln Lawyer. 35 minutes on my Alpha Apex 2 stringer.
     
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  41. jfish

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    Having multiple sticks is like having open relationships with multiple partners, but that's just me...
     
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    If I happen to have a demo, I will use it in warm-up then switch to my regular stick for the match. Now during the match I may switch to another of my usual sticks if I break a string or can tell the tension is going in my frame. I typically carry 3 Youtek Radicals in my bag all strung identically and then any demo I may be trying.
     
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  43. goober

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    One time I was at a tournament and I guy brought 4 demos to play against me. He played about 4 games with each and then switched. During changeovers he told me what he thought about each racquet which I thought was funny. I guess he didn't really expect to win the match because he said he just got double bumped from 3.0s after going to nationals.
     
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  44. 000KFACTOR90000

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    haha I got a good chuckle outa that :)
     
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