Does a 2-handed backhand allows you to be more lazy?

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  1. DonDiego

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    Honestly?

    I am currently (and slowly) switching to a 2-hand backhand, and the primary reason is I have poor footwork and I'm getting slower every year. I know you still need good footwork with 2-hands, but so far I find it easier to get myself out of trouble with 2-hands in many situations. And I'm not talking about just shoveling the ball on the other side, I can hit some clean 2-handers already, working on more consistency.

    During practice I have a sublime one-hander. Relaxed yet penetrating, rolling over the ball for natural topspin, hitting down the line as well as cross court with ease... But it's because I get most balls around the same spot and it's easier to get into my rythm. As soon as it is game time, I get balls every here and there, short, long, in my feet, etc. And I'm never well positioned and can't find the time to take a proper backswing and plant my feet where they should be for a clean stroke.

    Plus I like the idea of hitting some backhands with an open stance, it seems ''simpler''.

    I'm what I call a low-end 4.5 recreational player, playing in a league of 4.0- 4.5.
     
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  2. Maximagq

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    Not really, your reach is more limited with a two hander so you need to get in better position with your feet to hit a solid ball IMO.
     
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    Not really. I can get very lazy with my 1hbh. When messing around I can barely move my feet and just flick 1hbh with my wrist and arm.
     
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  4. DonDiego

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    Yeah, maybe the footwork part is just as hard. But I think it's the whole preparation that I find easier with a 2-hander. You can get away with a shorter takeback since the left arm is there for support.

    Does that make sense?
     
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  5. Topspin Shot

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    Unlike Matt and OB, I have a two hander, so I can offer a different perspective. :) I find a two hander makes getting to the ball harder, but once I'm there, the shot is easier.
     
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    This sums up pretty well what I'm experiencing so far.
     
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    I"m more lazy with the one hander, choosing to slice often.
     
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    In what way do you find it difficult to get to the ball?
     
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  9. 5263

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    2 hander takes better position on the ball to hit well imo.
     
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  10. Connors Fan

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    I have hit them both, and am presently trying the 2hbh for return of serve issues.

    I would agree with the above, better footwork needed, but once there, an easier shot. One handed you can always just slice it back, so you can be sloppier (or at least I can) with your footwork.
     
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    For me, 2hbh allows me to Keep it Simple.

    1. It's simple to return serve without changing grip
    2. It's simple to switch from 2hbh topspin to 1hbh slice (vice versa) without changing grip. Also simple to do backhand dropshot
     
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  12. TennisCJC

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    No the 2hbh does not allow you to be more lazy. Getting in good position which allows good weight transfer pays dividends for 2hbh just like 1hbh.

    The one thing the 2hbh allows you to do is to hit a topspin shot with a later contact. You have to hit the 1hbh about 1 to 1.5 feet sooner than the 2hbh. I would not say this means you can be lazy with your footwork with a 2hbh but you do have a bit more time for hitting topspin drives.
     
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  13. DonDiego

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    Only one thing bothers me so far in my progression: I can't seem to ''slap'', or ''rip'' the ball as hard as I would do with a one-hander. Is it normal?

    Maybe it's because I'm still grooving the stroke, but I find it hard to generate as much racquet head speed as with one hand. I get good head speed with 2 hands when I'm relaxing my grip and letting the racquet drop, mind you. But it's not at the level of a one-hander, which might be totally normal since one hand is by definition looser than two.

    I'm curious about what you guys think. At the pro level for example, are one-handers hitting the ball harder than two-handers (in terms of collision between the racquet and the ball)? i.e. is it possible that a backhand from Andy Murray would be more powerful than one from Almagro for example, despite the fact that Almagro had it the ball ''harder''? If you know what I mean...
     
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  14. Topspin Shot

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    If you're hitting out of a closed stance, there's less reach.
     
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    I agree with this to a certain degree but I have read some coaches dispute this. I think the difference in reach is actually not that big if step out into a closed stance and let your back side than rotate around so the back foot comes up with the front foot on a 2 HBH. I think the difference in reach is very small in reality on most shots. But, the 1 HBH is better for very wide balls where you are just slicing it back.
     
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    I have played both and if anything, it is the otherway round. With the one hander the extra reach means you can get lazy and just stick out the racket, or switch to a badly hit slice.

    The 2 hander requires good footwork. I am pretty steady on that side and one of the reasons is I sort out my feet and bend my knees. Unlike some of the people I am playing.
     
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  17. ace_pace

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    I've played with both over the years and found the 2hbh more forgiving. Slightly more footwork, but WAAAAAAAAAAY easier setup.
     
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    Not really. You can sometimes take the ball a little bit late with the 2-hander but, for the most part, the double-handed BH requires more footwork to get into a proper position. While the 1-handed slice BH can be taken later, if needed, the the 1-handed topspin BH, it cannot be taken as late as the 2-handed BH.

    You need to take the 1-handed topspin early but the 1-handed slice has a much more generous range (for contact point) than its topspin counterpart of than the 2-hander. Greater reach for short & low balls as well as for balls that are wider of you with the 1-handed slice. Also easier to play the ball right at the body (when jammed) with the BH slice than with the 2-handed BH. The bottom line is that your position generally needs to be more precise for the 2-handed BH due to the reduced range -- this usually requires more footwork in order to get ti=o an optimal position.
     
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  19. DonDiego

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    this is something that comes up a lot and needs to be discussed. When I compare 1-hand vs 2-hand, I'm talking about topspin shots. I, for example, don't have a decent slice enough to use consistently. And I'm sure it is the case for a lot of 1-hand players. So it's not about comparing [2hbh topspin vs 1hbh topspin + 1h slice], as many people do.

    Now, one could argue that a one-handed player NEEDS to develop a good slice, but when you leave the slice out of the equation, the 2-hander become an easier and more reliable shot IMO.
     
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    You could hit the top spin 1hbh late by raising your front leg and bending the knee while hitting it (like how you do when you hit a 1hbh topspin lob). But I agree with the point in general.
     
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    Not the case for all. Actually, many players use the BH slice much more than their 1-handed topspin BH. Back in the day, I had a 1-handed topspin BH that was sometimes my most lethal weapon. However, I would usually reserve this weapon for moderate or slower paced (incoming) balls. On faster or more challenging balls, I would usually use the BH slice. Perhaps 65-80% of my BHs were of the slice variety. I have seen many other players do the same.
     
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