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  1. Knightmace

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    Federer almost never loses in straight sets?

    He got owned at 2008 French Open and 2008 by Fish 6-3,6-2 and Blake 2008 Olympics but it just goes to show how hard it is to beat Fed!
     
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  2. P_Agony

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    Yep. I believe he hasn't lost a match in straight sets this year aside of Wawrinka's match in MC.
     
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  3. Blinkism

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    That's right, he did well this year that, even if he lost, he always pushed it to 3 sets or 5 sets.

    Unlike 2008 where he losts straight sets to Djokovic at the AO, Fish in Indian Wells, Nadal in Monte Carlo, Stepanek in Rome, Nadal again at the French, James Blake at the Olympics.

    Huge improvement, mentally, this year.
     
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  4. P_Agony

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    Yes, but in both years had some horrible performences. Not to take anything away from his opponents who beat him, but against Novak he was an unforced error machine, against Fish at IW his movement was as bad as I've ever seen it, against Nadal at the French he was like a zombie on court. Sure, Nadal played the tennis of his life, but Federer was not even trying, he was dead that day. I thought he played fairly well at some points vs. Nadal in Monte Carlo though, and while he lost in straights those were highly competitive sets. If I recall correctly he did fight against Stepanek but was simply out played by Stepanek's net play. In the Olympics match was ne match where he hit his forehand so badly it was funny.
     
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  5. Blinkism

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    ^^ well, that's what I was getting at

    He's more involved this year- despite some questionable matches in the spring, he's clearly well ahead of the state he was in, mentally, in '08.

    I wonder how his bagel count/breadstick count compares to last year, too.
    EDIT: checked it out, it's almost the same. This year he handed out 1 less bagel and 1 less breadstick, BUT he didn't get bageled once, unlike last year.

    68 bagels in Federer's career! Compare that to 37 for Sampras's whole career. Not bad
     
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  6. P_Agony

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    Nice info! Thanks man :)
     
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  7. prosealster

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    thx for the info...where do u get stats like that??
     
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  8. sunny_cali

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    Interesting. And while you are at it, how many has he eaten in his whole career and how does it compare with Sampras ?
     
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  9. Blinkism

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    Federer has received 4 bagels in his career and Sampras has 9.
     
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  10. Bloodshed

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    While he improved mentally this year over last year, he's had a couple of bad losses this year:

    vs Djokovic @ Miami. That was simply sad. Worst match of Fed 2009 by far. Even the racquet would agree.

    vs Wawrinka @ MC. It's like Fed didn't care being in this event in the first place (but then again he never wanted to show up in the first place)

    vs Djokovic @ Rome. Fed in complete control of the match until the rain showed up and it killed any momentum Fed had left for the match.

    vs Tsonga @ Montreal. The biggest choke of Fed in 09. He simply blew away that match.


    I did not include AO 09 vs Nadal, Basel 09 vs Djokovic, Paris 2nd round vs Benneteau, WTF RR vs Del Potro and WTF SF 09 vs Davydenko because Federer didn't deserved to win those matches. The opponents just played better than him.
     
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  11. GasquetGOAT

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    Where were the other 3 bagels from?
     
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  12. Bloodshed

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    One from Spadea of all people :shock:
     
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  13. GasquetGOAT

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    That's right it was from 99 though.... other two all from early years as well?
     
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  14. FedSampras1

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    1999 Montecarlo 1st round against Spadea (lost in two)
    1999 RG 1st round against Rafter (lost in four)
    1999 Queen's 1st round against B. Black (lost in two)
     
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  15. Anaconda

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    Djokovic def. Federer 7-5 6-3 7-6

    Rafter always owned Federer, Kuerten gave a few beatdowns to Federer too. Nalbandian beat Federer in straight sets at paris 2007.
     
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  16. GasquetGOAT

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    Thx for the info. So all from early career then, basicly only Nadal has managed to serve him a bagel since Fed became Fed as we know him.
     
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  17. JoshDragon

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    When did Rafter play Federer? 1999 and 2001. Roger wasn't even 20 years old back then, so it's not surprising that Rafter was able to win. What chance do you think Rafter would have had against 2004, 05, 06, 07 Federer? None.

    Same goes for Kuerten, although at least he was able to beat Roger once during his prime years.
     
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  18. pc1

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    Any great player of Federer's level isn't going to lose in straights that often.

    Here's Federer against Henman.

    Round Winner & Score
    2006 Tokyo
    Japan Hard F Federer, Roger
    6-3, 6-3 Stats
    2006 US Open
    NY, U.S.A. Hard R64 Federer, Roger
    6-3, 6-4, 7-5 Stats
    2006 Wimbledon
    England Grass R64 Federer, Roger
    6-4, 6-0, 6-2 Stats
    2005 ATP Masters Series Miami
    FL, U.S.A. Hard Q Federer, Roger
    6-4, 6-2 Stats
    2004 US Open
    NY, U.S.A. Hard S Federer, Roger
    6-3, 6-4, 6-4 Stats
    2004 ATP Masters Series Indian Wells
    California, USA Hard F Federer, Roger
    6-3, 6-3 Stats
    2004 Rotterdam
    The Netherlands Hard Q Henman, Tim
    6-3, 7-6(9) Stats
    2003 ATP Masters Series Paris
    France Carpet Q Henman, Tim
    7-6(5), 6-1 Stats
    2002 ATP Masters Series Miami
    FL, U.S.A. Hard R16 Federer, Roger
    6-2 RET Stats
    2001 Basel
    Switzerland Carpet F Henman, Tim
    6-3, 6-4, 6-2 Stats
    2001 Wimbledon
    England Grass Q Henman, Tim
    7-5, 7-6(6), 2-6, 7-6(6) Stats
    2000 Vienna
    Austria Hard S Henman, Tim
    2-6, 7-6(4), 6-3 Stats
    1999 Basel
    Switzerland Carpet Q Henman, Tim
    6-3, 7-5 Stats
     
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  19. TheNatural

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    I think its due to his tie break record as a lot of players tend to choke v Fed in tie breakers.He often ends up winning sets in a tie break even when he's outplayed during sets.
     
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  20. JoshDragon

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    Roger, lost too many tie breaks against Henman, if he had played them better he could have won nearly all of their matches including the Wimbledon 2001 quarter-final.
     
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  21. TMF

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    And his losses had to be in his worst year where he had physical problems.
     
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  22. Knightmace

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    Fed has handed Nadal 2 bagels and Nadal gave Federer one
     
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