Does "Cmon!" Work?

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  1. donnyz89

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    I think it works to some extent... it really pumps you up and elevates your game. worked for me. I was playing the 3rd seed, 68 in the state and i took the first set, he took the second in a close one after a rain delay. and match was already turning into a bloodshed. no one was gonna let down, in the tiebreaker, it was close until 6 all, and I hit a great shot 7-6 and I let out a loud "cmon" (not my first), and i was really pumped then, winning 2 straight pts, and on his serve down 6-9, i crushed his second serve to the corner, and finished the match with an overhead. 10-6. My adreneline was really going in that tiebreak, he had no answer for my bruising shots... if i was that focused and pumped the whole match, i woulda been over in an hour.
     
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  2. Ztalin

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    lol. If anyone pulled a c'mon on me I'd look at them and say:

    "Are you retarded?"

    Really, it seems like a childish thing to do.
     
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    I feel like starting a Hewitt-wannabe holocaust.
     
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  4. supersmash

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    It gets you pumped. It gets your adrenaline flowing.
     
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  5. gurj_v

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    A few fist pumps and cmooonnnssss (not as loud a lleytons) after a point gets me wanting more points.
     
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  6. snowpuppy

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    It really depends on what type of person you are. If you are the emotional type there is no point bottle'ing all that emotional up. "Come ons" are really just tennis versions of a player congraulating his/herself. In basketball their is the chest bumps and towel waving, in american football there is the dancing at the end-zone, in football there is the players sliding on the grass, in baseball there is the players piling up at home plate, etc.. There is no reason to call it childish, it is just feeling good about yourself.

    But really i think it is good to celebrate no matter what type of person you are. But just don't manufacture the "come ons" to look like the pros or do it in a way insulting to your opponent.

    Thats my 2 cents
     
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  7. Ztalin

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    C'mon means "bring it". If someone said that in a match, I'd automatically consider it trying to get under my skin.
     
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  8. finchy

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    if i was playin you and a tourny official was near, i would complain of gamesmanship.
     
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    Id aim my racquet at your teeth
     
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  10. Geico

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    It is a stupid thing to say. Why stop there. Why not just say, "Bring it!" to tick off your opponent even further???
     
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  11. erik-the-red

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    If you wanna say "c'mon" after a winner, I say go for it.

    What's so unsportsmanlike about it? I shot a winner; I'm going to pump MYSELF up.
     
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  12. Indiantwist

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    I never ever said Cmon or for that matter anything other than score during the match.
    During the breaks between games i will talk with my partner (who is also a good friend of mine) on various stuff. But during the game i try to stay calm and execute my plan(s)

    I wouldnt give any gestures whatsoever.

    My friends often report that i take game a bit more serious but i dont get upset when iam loosing. Whatever my feelings are , they stay within me.

    But thats me. Iam sure every person has a way of dealing with stuff. I dont like to say CMON or etc but at the same time i have nothing against opponents saying that (but i would internally laugh at them for sure).
     
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  13. FedererUberAlles

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    I do it to mess around with guys. When someone does it to me I ask them what they said. XD
     
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  14. Bungalo Bill

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    I think it excites a player when he is thrilled with his play. I think it can be viewed as unsportmanship by their opponent expecially if they are not as good as you. Hard to tell how it would be ruled if your opponent felt is was taunting him.

    All I can say is, what goes around comes around. Pride comes before the fall and how hard they fall. Unless you have a game like Hewitt, I think it is weird to promote your amateur game like that pumping your fists like you captured your prey. Lame. Just hit the damn ball and let the score speak for you.
     
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  15. Tim Tennis

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    I think "come on" is great. Damn, you got to encourage yourself, it is tough out there. I don't think you should stare down your opponent when you say this. I usually say "Compete" because sometimes I tend to get very lazy and miss shots just because I do not make that little extra effort necessary to stay in the point.

    You got to love the game.
     
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  16. Kaptain Karl

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    It depends.

    Some opponents will get pissed. I have one practice partner who plays LOTS better when he's pissed at *me*. I'd never do a "C'mon" with him.

    On the other hand, some opponents play worse when they are ticked-off. I hope you know which opponents to "C'mon" with ... and which ones not to....

    As for me? Just play the game.

    - KK
     
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  17. AAAA

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    It's highly unlikely an adreneline surge can last a whole match, never did for Greg(about 1 set) or Roddick (Wimbledon final 2004 abit more than 1 set). For me I play below my normal level after I come down off the high.
     
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  18. GOOOOOGA

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    none of us will ever be able to play the type of technical and mental game federer does - he almost never shouts out after a poor or great shot. he can pump himself up, get himself started in a match, focused, right off the first point.

    us HUMANS, though, aren't very capable of focusing in and starting off fast on a consistent basis. you shouldn't be letting out a plethora (alwayz wanted to use that word) of C'MON!s, cuz that'd just ruin the effect of them.

    let's say--- you're playing horribly in a tourney, but are still sticking around in the match, mebbe down 3-5, it's your opponent's serve, and you have breakpoint 30-40. you hit a return ace winner to get back on serve. im pretty sure some type of emotion should be permitted then.

    if i stayed quiet, i'd just treat that like any other shot and end up just saying it was a fluke. instead, if i let out a yell or somethin, it'll get me thinking "i can win this match". that momentum'll carry me to hold serve and maybe break serve, taking the 1st set. and as we all know, it's better winning a set than losing one.

    obviously, overusing CMONs is pretty stupid. itll probably enrage the opponent and he'll want to beat u even THAT more. i guess like everything, if it's used in moderation-- at the right time and completely spontaneous or on-the-whim -- THEN thats fine.

    it should NEVER be used for tactical purposes
     
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  19. Exile

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    I would do it only on epic points, like those long 1-2 minute ones.
     
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    Hmm, I wouldn't mind it, but why pick "cmon"? If you were provoking your opponent I would get why, but if you were pumping yourself up, wouldn't you just cheer your own shot? Maybe, a "YES!" or something. But why steal something from a pro? But if it pumps you up, no problem.
     
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    I yell "YAY!!!!" or "HORAAAAY!!!!" but never "Come On" or "WAAAASSUUUUUP" or "WHO's YA DADDY, I'M YA DAM DADDY THATS WHO", just kidding I definitely do that.
     
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  22. marino

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    Come on is tha best, it pumps you up and gets your oponent frustrated or annoyed. Its the best way to pump your self up and slightly swing a match into your favor
     
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  23. donnyz89

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    cmon, isnt targeted toward your opponent, like "cmon, bring it..." it smore like a "cmon, lets go, you got it..." type of thing to yourself.
     
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    Vamos....amigos
     
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  25. tennis4losers

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    Why doesnt anyone think of their own "catch phrase"? its not realy hard... I say to my opponent "ARE YOU TRYING???"
     
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    i would say "not as hard as you, but hard enough to beat you".

    thats y "cmon" is good, there are no comebacks!!! i mean, i would have to say "here i come!" that would just be completely ****sexual.
     
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    LOL LMAO what i do if i screw up it annoys people is "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH"
     
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  28. FiveO

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    Amen, KK, Amen.
     
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    Amen? God here are some cases of adrenalitis. You all need an all new Toyota Tocoma, with the TRD package. No seriously. even the most self contained players (sampras, federer) has out bursts from time to time. It is good to let out the feeling sometimes. You are going to let me if you are able and did smack a between the legs winner after getting lobed at the net that you are just going to nod and move on? Thats unreal.
     
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  30. Jonnyf

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    Infact fed was a hardcase as a junior and the only time has actually burst out was at (Miami or Pacific Line ) that outburst unsettled Nadal and Fed's play Durastically increased and he WON !!!
     
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    #1 - I never hit the "Tweener". It's too high-risk and if I could hit that, I can also hit the Jai-lai shot ... which, for me, is much higher percentage.
    #2 - When I *do* hit the Jai-lai for a winner, I want my opponent to know it wasn't some fluke shot. (In fact, I am very good at it.) I want my opponent to believe I can *smoke* him like that anytime. Acting like you just amazed yourself simply accentuates the rarity of the accomplishment.

    So "Yes". I nod and move on.

    - KK
     
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  32. snowpuppy

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    Wow, my hats off to u.... u robot. hahahah.
     
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  33. elbuzzard_lives

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    .......lame.
     
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  34. FiveO

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    The chicken or the egg thing. Which came first the rush of adrenaline or the "c'mon". Maybe I misunderstood the OP but I thought his position to be that the "c'mon" was a means towards an end. I took his premise to be that he GOT the adrenaline pump from using a catch phrase, rather than the outburst being spontaneous, RESULTING FROM the excitement of the moment. As if when feeling flat out there, saying a couple of deliberate, audible "c'mon's" would lift one's play a level or two. That excited level comes from match-play experience, sharp focus and emphasizing movement, not saying "shazaam" a couple times.

    I don't disagree with "letting it go" every once in a while after hitting a big winner at a pivotal point in a match and AFTER completing a mission in the war, after a break or pocketing a set (Actually, releasing prematurely could result in an emotional let down on the next, perhaps bigger point). But there is also value in "acting like you've been there before". Sending a message that the amazing winner you just hit, that you never made in anything but practice before, "was no big deal" and part of your normal arsenal can be very disconcerting to an unfamiliar opponent.

    If you follow American football and are old enough to remember or have seen film of Hall of Fame running back, Jim Brown, you may be aware that he had a consistent reaction to being tackled. He would intentionally lay motionless on the turf for several seconds after every tackle, uncomfortably longer than most every other player. Why? He wasn't resting or catching his breath. While it didn't happen often, sometimes Brown was stunned or injured by a hit. But because he laid there motionless after EVERY hit, the opponent would NEVER KNOW if he hurt the star even after that opponent had just unloaded his best shot on Brown.
     
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  35. GOOOOOGA

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    i heard he started doing that after the first few mindboggling hits he endured, just to make sure he could wiggle his toes, move his arms, make sure nothings dead. he took major PUNISHING during his i think 8 year career. i've seen alot of him on NFL Films, thats just nasty. did u also notice how he stutterstepped right as the ball was handed off to him? made it a hell of a lot easier for photographers.

    the three greatest HBs of all time had shortened careers, sadly, and stats dominate everything so we all know about emmitt smith and company. but not enough recognition or credit is given to the greatness of jim brown, gale sayers, and barry sanders.
     
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    Yeah same. Except I don't even nod. I just turn my back, walk back to the baseline... next point. I rarely celebrate at all. I feel no need to. "You still have lots more to work on." is what I keep telling myself. Maybe I'm pretty close to Federer's temperament... although I do get frustrated if I'm not playing well.
     
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  37. tennis4losers

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    I cometimes say "Suc* it" it makes them mad and you know its sorta funn.y -sorry to those who find it offensive.
     
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    Nah, I'm not offended, this bad talk and insanity is typical of one who watches Late Night with Conan O'Brien. -sorry if you find it offensive...jk, I love that show.
     
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  39. Kaptain Karl

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    You know, I think you're right. I got carried away with the previous comments.
    Well said, FiveO.

    I thought your football analogy was going to be a reference to the quote frequently attributed to Paul Brown, Hall of Fame NFL Coach, who would admonish his players who celebrated flamboyantly in the End Zone, with "act like you've been there before."

    Yeah. That's it....

    - KK
     
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    Its different with all people. there isnt one way, some people are motivated by it, some people are angered by it, some people are annoyed by it, and for some people, it makes no difference. i mean, federer lets out a cmon every now and then, hewitt does it on big pts.
     
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    I agree that it is motivating to some effect, but there is a point where you can get too overconfident or even not doing a punctuated enough "cmon!", you have to know how to do it just right LOL.
     
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  42. fedex27

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    it helps only becuase it destracts your oppenant becuase they are thinking what is this guy doing? he seems like an idiot, why whould you do that?
     
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  43. tenniscrazed

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    Anything positive in any individual endeavor where there is so much stacked against you is a good thing. I would try to limit it to key points, long rallys etc. and even then try to keep it to yourself to some degree.
     
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