Does Nadal have the most unique strokes ever seen?

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  1. Nadal = Borg

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    Yes of course he does :)
     
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  2. Ronaldo

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    How bout those guys with two hands on both sides who use the same side of the racquet for both strokes?
     
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    That's why you call them "those guys". It's one thing to have unique strokes it's another thing to have unique strokes that actually work,.

    Nadal looks like he hits a trick shot on every stroke. It's insane.....no one can even attempt to teach those strokes.
     
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  4. borg number one

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    You've got a point. I've thought the same thing. Who else hits a forehand quite like that? Then, there's the backhand. Yes, I agree he's very unique, but so was Borg...wait a minute, I think Borg=Nadal (jk..), seriously I agree. His strokes are unique.
     
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  5. TheTruth

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    I think so. There's no one I've ever seen to compare him to. Everything about his game is unique, which is what makes it so exciting to watch. I can't think of one player that I would say, ""_____'s is just like Nadal's.

    That's why I'm hooked. He is so original. It's hard to pick a favorite thing (he does so many), but one of the things that blows me away is the way the ball undulates as it's going across the net. It's spinning, revolving, changing direction, looking like it's going out... It is so awesome to see.
     
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  6. Tesla was serb

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    Wow, he is the greatest and awesomeist ever!:!::!::!:
     
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  7. Murrayfan31

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    Paint drying is very unique as well. Nothing can duplicate to paint drying.
     
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  8. vive le beau jeu !

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    in a sense... the unaestheticism of his strokes is unmatched in tennis history.
     
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  9. Murrayfan31

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    Yep only one person has taken a pure tennis stroke and twisting it all around to make something ugly out of it. Yep Muster would be proud though.
     
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  10. Rogael Naderer

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    I think Nadal is more interested in what happens to the tennis ball off of his racquet, no?

    As we know what happens is usually rather impressive...
     
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  12. namelessone

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    That was for uncle Tony, no? :)

    He was in the stands signaling to Nadal how to celebrate.
     
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  13. Jack Romeo

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    nadal is definitely up there in "uniqueness" but there are a few others who come to mind, namely:

    1. jim courier - baseball backhand and western or semiwestern but flattish, kinda slapshot-like forehand
    2. stefan edberg - funky shovel-like forehand, exaggerated back bend on serve; backhand and volleys were classic though
    3. monica seles - most unique among the women because of her two handed forehand with non-dominant hand on top of the dominant hand (very awkward and limited reach)
     
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    why would anyone want to?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er4FkbQ9Nm4
     
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  15. vive le beau jeu !

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    really really hard not to smash the screen's computer when seeing this abomination. [​IMG]
     
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    Alberto Berasategui's strokes were a lot more unique than Nadal's. He had an extreme western grip and hit both forehand and backhand with the same side of the racquet.

    He reached the FO final and beat Agassi at the Australian Open, so he wasn't a total journeyman.
     
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  17. namelessone

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    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes....The man is a Saint.

    He should have a river named after him.
     
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  19. Wilander Fan

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    Everything is pretty standard but the forehand. No one hits the forehand so late and so vertically.

    McEnroe had the most unusual strokes I have seen.
     
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    Berasategui is one of the first names that come to mind when you think of unusual ball striking.

    But this isn't the real question, is it? Yes, yes, we agree, Nadal is God's gift to tennis, which didn't even exist until his appearance.
     
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  22. cucio

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    For the young ones, here is Berasategui wiping the court with Goran at FO'94. About 3 min into the video clip there are a few slo-mo takes of his forehand:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbV6Ye6LIwE

    Don't try this at home without the supervision of an adult.
     
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  23. gpt

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    no, he does not :)

    .......Francoise Dürr, Gene Mayer, Eliot Teltscher, Ivan Lendl, Bjorn Borg, Frew McMillan, Ony Parun, John Bromwich, Pancho Segura, Jimmy Connors, Pam Shriver, Fabrice Santoro, Cliff Drysdale...................................etc
     
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  24. namelessone

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    Even with an adult you shouldn't. The most that the adult would do is to watch you breaking your wrist while attempting that :)
     
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  25. Ronaldo

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    Suspect Nadal's strokes won't be unique for long. Then, again, who emulates Seles?
     
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  26. PSNELKE

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    why would you say wiping the court with Goran.
    Berasategui never reached a final on any other surface but clay where he reached tons of finals.
    Clay was obviously Gorans worst surface, he never won anything special on the surface.

    Anyway Alberto´s forehand is the most weird looking i have ever seen.
    I don´t remember anyone who had a more western grip than him, but i always loved to watch him play :))
     
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    I don't think you CAN go any western than that.
     
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    I think if You tried a little bit harder you might actually be able to turn into nadal. Your luv festival hasn't quite reached the necessary level for transformation yet.
     
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    Indeed... the world would implode and the Internets would be "finnish"
     
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  30. li0scc0

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    I do that too! I use an extreme western, and hit my 1hbh on the same side of the racquet. Admittedly, it is weird.
     
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  31. Ronaldo

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    When I first posted two-hands on both sides had the Magician in mind.
     
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  32. billnepill

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    Nadal is unique.

    So is anybody else.
     
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  33. DjokerIsTheBest

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    Which means no one is unique. We only think we are.
     
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    Bill ... I could be way off the mark but is that somone playing the pedal steel guitar in your avatar? :)

     
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  35. li0scc0

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    If everyone is different, that means everyone is unique.
     
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  36. DjokerIsTheBest

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    Which makes being unique a moot point. Uniqueness only stands out on a background of sameness. Hence if everyone is unique then no one is.
     
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  37. TheTruth

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    Interesting. I've never heard of him. I read the comments and saw that he retired early.
     
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  38. coloskier

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    I would think that Fabrice Santoro would have something to say about this thread.
     
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  39. Netzroller

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    the most unique strokes ever - probably not

    the most unique strokes that allow you to be one of the greatest players ever - I'd say yes
     
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    This is what he has single handedly done to Federer's career LOL j/k
     
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  41. Manus Domini

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    was he the one who used a hawaiin grip?
     
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    I dont think that the hawaiin grip is a real usable grip in tennis, the site it was onn is not that good...
     
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  43. Ronaldo

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    Looks like an uppercut to the ball.
     
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  44. Manus Domini

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    gotcha, makes sense. I wouldn't try it for the world.
     
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  45. Ronaldo

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    Just flip your backhand over
     
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  47. borg number one

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    Yes, great post GPT. We've seen so many great unique players and those are excellent examples. Has there been another Jimmy Connors or John McEnroe or Borg, or Vilas, Laver, ...we could all probably add dozens and dozens of unique players. Of course, I do think Nadal is quite a unique player and he's doing it as the the top player in the world. I would say even a guy like Raonic is unique. When I saw that guy play Ferrer at the '11 AO, I was very impressed and he was just different.
     
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  49. glazkovss

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    Dimitrov - the least unique shots, Federer's copy.
     
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