Does Rafa not like Lunarlon?

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  1. THE FIGHTER

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    Did rafa switch back to the 4.3s because he doesnt like the less supportive lunarlon mid, and perhaps the less supportive upper? i know there's a big difference between Air Max and Air-Max-lessLunarlon especially on the first step and recovery. or was he trying to find form mid-major? on paper and from various accounts, the Lunar ballistecs are suppose to be a step in the right direction.
     
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    When I spoke to him yesterday, he said "I like a lot the 4.3. Superior cushioning, no?"

    That tells me it's all about the Air Max support.
     
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    Rafa doesn't use retail shoes. So its neither the CB or the LB's.
     
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    he does use properties that are available to retail, like the Air Max Zoom Air bladders and proprietary phylon midsoles.
     
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    Yes, but those properties aren't the same as the retail. So we still don't know.
     
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    You're contradicting yourself by claiming a perceived fact, then stating we still dont know. Obviously, in many cases, pros don't use the same as retail. but the basic structural difference between lunarlon and zoom in the midsole is there just the same, whether it's retail or a specific version preferred by the pro. The difference is substantial, at least this is the reason Federer stuck with the previous Zoom version of the midsole when the Vapor 7 and 8s came out with Lunarlon.
     
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    What I'm saying is that we don't really know if he doesn't like the Lunarlon tech or the Lunarlon paintjob.

    If its about the "less supportive upper" like you were saying, Nike certainly can alter his shoes and make them more supportive. Why not?

    I think its more about how he feels about the shoe (the guy's superstitious). Whether its the looks or the feel or the technology, we don't know.
     
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    That's basically what I'm getting at. Trying to understand why Nadal doesnt feel right in the Lunars. as you pointed out, it could be superstition, since he is indeed one of the most visibly suspicious on tour.
     
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    Air Max and Zoom Air are different things. There is no Air Max Zoom....
     
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    It is 1/5 the cushioning as air max he had. so what do you think ? players that need extra cushioning, lunalon is a bad idea. it is great close to ground but closer to ground, the less the cushioning.
     
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    Actually, I'm curious, has anyone tried the new shoes with Lunarlon (with the risk of being told to go to the shoes and apparel section)? I've tried running shoes with lunarlon, and compared to regular shoes with zoom or air, it kind of feels like the difference between a memory foam mattress and a latex mattress. Whereas the air/memory foam is cushioned, but the lunarlon\latex, has cushion, but also feels like it's pushing back at you, I don't know how to describe it. Anyways, runnings shoes, and tennis shoes are different, so I was wondering if it felt like the same type of difference.
     
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    i think lunarlon is great for its weight and comfortable shock absorption properties. it just doesnt push back as much or as quickly when you push off. too dampened IMO.

    my bad on the mix up, it's been so long since zoom air and air max have been talked about. i wanted to reference the zoom air bladders nike used on previous models.
     
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    I was at a local running store, and I asked for running shoes recommendations for off court training. And the guy said that Lunarlon is really soft, helps minimize the off the court impact and stress, so runners love Lunarlon. But he said most other athletes hate Lunarlon, because it is so soft. It's like trying to explode off of a pillow or sand.
     
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