Does your tennis club charge a USTA league Fees?

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  1. PlayTheClay

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    My club in Virginia is forcing their members to pay an additional $50 per team to play in a USTA league. This is on top of the USTA membership and league fees.

    Do your club's charge you an additional fee to play? If so is it per league or yearly? How much is it? And what value do you get for the added charge?

    Thanks in advance for your input.
     
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  2. Rabbit

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    No, the club I belong to doesn't charge for USTA. I've never heard of such.
     
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  3. NetMaster70

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    We pay for court time and balls for USTA matches but we do not pay any amount just for fielding a team.
     
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  4. Chris De Tone

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    A little late to the party, but...no. USTA, there is no fee.
     
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  5. JRstriker12

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    I don't belong to a club, but my fees usually look like this:

    -USTA Membership fee (what is it now days? About $35?)
    -USTA fee to join the team/league. (About $25)
    -Court time fee for each match I play (about $15-$17 per match)

    IMHO, $50 per team is not that much. Split it between your team's players and it comes to maybe $5 or less.

    The question is, what does the $50 cover? Is it court time? If it's court time, you team is getting a good deal.
     
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    $50 per team? An extra $3 per person sure doesn't seem unreasonable
     
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    Most of the clubs in my area charge a fee ranging from $50 to $100 for non-members to play on one of their USTA teams, which I suppose is justifiable.

    However, the club I used to belong to charged each team $200 bucks total (on top of league fees) whether you were a member or not... which didn't seem fair to me. Afterall, I was already paying monthy dues to cover my court time... why should I pay extra because it's a USTA League match? Therefore, I left to go to another club which doesn't pull that kind of prank.
     
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  8. Ronaldo

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    Contact your district league coordinator and find out what the team fee really is. With clubs closing and limiting the number of teams, independent teams are playing each year.
     
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    Are you sure the fee isnt to cover court time for your USTA matches that will be held at the club?

    All clubs charge that.

    Me fees look like this:

    Usta yearly membership $25 (I always find a discount code)
    Usta team fee $25
    Court, ball, and drink fee $25
     
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  10. Okazaki Fragment

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    No. Just the court fees that everybody else (non-league) pays too. If they are charging you for something that the non-league players aren't being charged for, then they are ripping you off and doing a great disservice to the game of tennis.
     
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    My club does not charge such a fee, but I can see where clubs might be inclined to. With what it costs for the lights, court maintenance, court repair, and court replacement, I can see where clubs are looking for any means possible to help defray these cost.
     
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    Which club in VA do you play at? Just curious
     
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  13. Bash and Crash

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    our club here, charges $45 for non-member players, many clubs in area do not allow any non-members on their teams. Also, $45-50 bucks is not that much if you have to pay $10-15 for each home match for guest fee and light fees. We also allow the teams to have one practice a week, without guest fees. All in all i think it's a fair deal for non-member players.
     
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  14. Ronaldo

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    Our club limits the number of teams to one male, one female at each level. No lights, no indoors courts. No non-members. But you do not have to drag your own court.
     
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  15. raiden031

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    My club charges like $25/person members ($50/person non-members) to join a USTA team. Plus court fees if playing indoors and no charge for outdoor courts.
     
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    To those of you who are paying these club fees, I have a question: Does your club provide balls for your league matches? Is there anything included in this fee?
     
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  17. Ronaldo

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    Our district provides balls to each team for home matches, the clubs do not provide balls.
     
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  18. spot

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    seems to me that if the club is giving you priority for court time over non-league members during those peak times then it makes sense for them to charge the team a nominal fee.
     
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  19. Ronaldo

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    That is why our club limits the number of teams at each level. When every court is used for 2 1/2 hrs for league play nearly every weekday, members start looking for the door. 10 yrs ago we had the singles matches 1st, then the dubs just so we would only use 3 courts. Or force at least 2 matches to be played on hardcourts.
     
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  20. Court Valkyrie

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    If you are a non-member where I play it is 50$ per person per season. We have USTA 4x a year 2 men/womens seasons and 2 mixed seasons. Plus we have ALTA which plays opposite of USTA. When the USTA mens season is rolling, ALTA has a mixed season. So if you are a non member and want to play every season in one year you are looking at 400$ a year! Atlanta Lawn Tennis Association = ALTA
     
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    you got anymore coupons, I need to renew and they want $40. E-mail me.
     
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  22. cak

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    At one time our club charged $50 a member for USTA, but that was to pay the pro to come to each home match so they could alter clinics and such. At present the club pro is not even aware what USTA season it is, so that fee is long gone.

    I could see some sort of fee to cover guest fees for the teams coming in and playing against you. Though at our club there is a $30 per season fee for non-members, and no fee for members. If your team is providing hospitality after the game food and drinks need to be purchased from the club.
     
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  23. PlayTheClay

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    Reply -

    it is $50 per person per league...I wish it was $50 a team.




     
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  24. PlayTheClay

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    We do not play at night (no lights anyway) and our court fees for outdoor courts are free as part of membership.
     
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  26. PlayTheClay

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    problem with your logic is that outdoor courts are free to members at our club
     
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  27. PlayTheClay

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    $50 each per each team..play on 4 teams and thats another $200 per player
     
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  28. downthewall

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    clubs should not charge you usta fees. thats a total rippoff!
     
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  29. Ronaldo

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    So, like, how do the clubs recoup those USTA charges? If everyone plays league tennis it may be included in the membership fee. But if you do not play league tennis, should you pay the same as those that do? Been on independent teams and made it clear to everyone participating what the charges were and how much each member needed to pay to play.
     
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  30. raiden031

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    I cant believe what my club has done.

    Last year it was $20/person (member) or $50/person (non-member).

    This year it is $50/person (member) or $80/person (non-member).
     
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  31. cak

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    So do these club charges include the fee to the section/USTA? Or are we talking charges above that? Our club doesn't charge members anything, but you, of course, do have to sign up for the team on the NorCal website, and have your credit card handy. I believe right now it is $21 per member per team to sign up. Captains and co-captains are free. Our club does charge a $30 fee for non-members for court time, and has limits on the numbers of non-members per team as well as limits on play time. (Members are guaranteed two matches per season, non-members aren't guaranteed any matches...) And everyone gets to pay for hospitality (food and drink) which comes from the club.
     
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  32. goober

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    We use public tennis facilities.

    No membership fees.

    Only pay for court time. It was about $30 for last season.

    The only downside is that there are only about 3-4 public facilities in the area that will let you block out 5 courts for 2 hours+ till closing. So there are usually many teams formed out of the same facility.
     
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  33. innoVAShaun

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    Yeah I think the $85 dollars we had to pay for a winter league at FSITC ODU is a little steep.

    On another note, we use city public courts for our USTA Leagues. Usually what all is included (other than USTA membership) is league fee, court time and a patrons fee. It adds up somewhat but the prices have kept on going up the past few years.
     
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    In my case I am being charged $50 by my club that runs the leagues, PLUS the USTA league fee of like $22.75 or whatever it is. I already pay $75/month to be a member at my facilities, plus any indoor matches will have court fees.
     
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  35. Nellie

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    I am still baffled by why the club is charging you. Could you play USTA without being in the club. In know in some areas, all USTA is through clubs, so they can extort you. Where I am though, anyone can captain a team.
     
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  36. raiden031

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    In my area the usta leagues are run by the clubs. There is no usta league using public courts.
     
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  37. PlayTheClay

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    No the USTA league fees and area league coordinator fees are additional.
     
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  38. PlayTheClay

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    Our club members raised enough hell to get the fees overturned for the short term. I would urge you to organize all the members who are upset by this fee increase. We started a Facebook Group which members who wer upset could vent their frustration and communicate as a group. We also posted on here for feedback from other USTA players from across the country (thanks everyone for your input). I would also urge you to call clubs in your area to understand what the market is charging...be sure to compare apples for apples wen you look at clubs...private to private, member owned to member owned, etc. THe last piece of advice to is call your state USTA office and talk to the state league coordinator. They will help you to pressure the club in reducing or dropping the fees. Good luck.
     
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  39. Spokewench

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    No, we sometimes play USTA league matches at the club and sometimes not. Sometimes on public courts. If we play at the club, they have special fees for USTA league matches held at the club, so basically we are paying for the courts when and if we use them for usta league events.

    There are no other fees, because why should there be? Why would they care if we are playing in a USTA league if we don't use the courts?

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    Radien- are there no public courts near you? Seriously- for those prices just move your team to public courts. Just because no teams are currently run out of public courts doesn't mean that the USTA wouldn't let you start one. And if you would rather play out of the club even with the extra fees then I suppose they are totally justified in charging since thats what the market will bear. I do think clubs should be entitled to charge a fee for teams since they are giving you the courttime priority over non-league players but once it gets that high I'd think they would be risking you just jumping to a public court.
     
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  41. raiden031

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    So I'm supposed to kick everyone off the public courts when I have a league match? How do I get that kind of authority? I play out of the club because its either that or not play at all. Simple as that.

    Its a rip because you don't get any guaranteed playing time. So you can spend between $75-$100 to be on a team and get 1 or 2 matches. I would rather be charged court time for every match I play instead of being charged some enormous fee to join a team and then not play anyways.
     
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  42. goober

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    I guess it depends on where you live. Where I am there are public tennis facilities which have anywhere from 12-25 courts. You can reserve court time and pay a small fee ($2-5). There are no membership fees you just pay as you go. Then there are public community courts which are typically 1-6 courts in size that you cannot reserve and are free. Obviously the former are where you would play USTA matches.
     
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  43. raiden031

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    We don't have the public facilities you describe. We have like 4 private facilities that are managed by a community association and you have to pay for memberhship to reserve courts there. Then there are roughly 10 public park/high school courts that have between 2-6 courts at each, and these are first-come, first-serve. Almost always filled to capacity on a weeknight or weekend. So the USTA leagues are all run at the private facilities.
     
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  44. JRstriker12

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    raiden - just wondering. So in MD, the clubs themselves run the league?

    For example, here in VA, the leagues are hosted at various clubs (location changes every week just about), but they are run by a league coordinator not associated with the clubs (http://www.homecourttennis.com/). Anyone can create and enter a team into the league. We play USTA memebrship, team fees, and court time. The big clubs do have thier own teams though.

    How does it work in MD? Do the clubs have their own seperate USTA leagues? Do all the clubs charge the same extra fee to play in the league? Or is it that the clubs tend to run all the teams, but someone else coordinates the league?

    BTW- Where are you in MD? Montgomery County?
     
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  45. raiden031

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    I don't think the entire state of MD is run the same. But in Howard County where I am, all the USTA leagues are run by private clubs. There are like 3-4 local leagues and each is associated with a club. So each club league has their own fees. The main league is the howard county league which is run by the Columbia Association, which manages fitness/tennis facilities and parks in the area, but requires private monthly membership to use their facilities. Although anyone can start a team in this league, you just have to pay more if you're not a member. I think they govern what facilities are used for all matches, and I've never heard of a team that was based out of an external facility yet was in the same league.

    I believe the league coordinators oversee the other club leagues as well. The leagues converge in a playoff prior to districts to decide which team advances to districts in each skill division.
     
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  46. Ronaldo

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    raiden, are there tennis courts at a local university or high school? If you pay a fee and reserve courts for that day/evening, may be cheaper. If you choose a public park to practice, may attract more players to show up to play tennis.
     
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  47. raiden031

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    I don't know if that would fly. As I said, I've never heard of a team in my county operating out of a facility that is not associated with the club running the league. Also there is so much demand for the public parks and high school courts by various county programs and schools, that I don't think that I could reserve enough court time to run a team.
     
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  48. JRstriker12

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    Okay, I see.

    That would take a lot of time and dedication. Plus you'd have to work on pulling people for the estabilshed league. May not be possible since it appears that they have limited public facilties in raiden's area.
     
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    I guess I am just lucky living in Atlanta. THere are many public courts here that take reservations- we just have to pay them a league fee to play out of there. For us it comes out around $35 per person per season. (they make you pay for practice time as well- its one big upfront fee at the beginning of the season) Go to whatever public courts there are that let you reserve time and see if they have a policy for league tennis. I am guessing that you just haven't ever asked- it doesn't make any sense to me that public courts wouldn't allow you to have a usta team out of public courts. I mean thats a decently big $700 check those public courts get from us every season- just seems to me that for the amount of $$ you are talking about some courts would easily give you priority during your league times.
     
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  50. Topaz

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    In my area, we do use public courts for our outdoor leagues. The reservations are all set up through the coordinator, though. Each person pays a match fee of $10 for each match they play...usually collected right before the match itself. We send those fees off to the coordinator (minus any cost for balls).

    I have also reserved contract time on public courts for team practices, though. Pretty cheap...7 bucks per hour, and we have the 'security' of knowing we'll have the same courts the same time very week for practice.
     
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