Dominant Tournament Statistics

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  1. Nathaniel_Near

    Nathaniel_Near G.O.A.T.

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    http://www.tennis28.com/slams/games_winpct_tournament.html

    I don't have many concrete opinions about this yet, but don't you think it's odd that most of the very dominating performances in terms of % of games won come 1970's and 1980's? The general difference isn't even slight; it's huge.

    I think these stats are for the open era only. There are other interesting stats on this page...I haven't finished looking through them yet.

    Thoughts?


    edit: Oh yeah, of course not all of these are slam victories, but many of them are.
     
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  2. hoodjem

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    Bruguera above Fed.!? Most interesting.
     
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  3. Nathaniel_Near

    Nathaniel_Near G.O.A.T.

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    I mean of course, this can happen because clay means you cannot cover weaknesses so easily on the serve, so Bruguera could win a higher % of games on clay than Federer on grass, as I'm sure you figured immediately anyway.

    There are some things that could be quite strongly and confidently claimed but I am sure this will bring up a lot of interesting discussion. At least I hope it will.
     
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    on clay - where it is easier for the champion to break ( he'd hold because he was pretty good on that surface anyways )

    anyways bruguera's run in 93 RG is highly under-rated. He triple bagelled champion in the first round, lost only one set till the finals ( to sampras ) , ripped apart medvedev in the semis and won a hard fought battle against defending champion courier in the finals .....
     
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    just noticed - that list isn't updated , rafa's 2008 RG run which should come third overall (?), isn't there ....
     
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    Nathaniel_Near G.O.A.T.

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    Nope I just realized too. Some statistics go up to about 2008 and other to about 2006, which is a shame. =D
     
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    These stats have been done for the entire year. Tony Trabert's 1955 season is the best so far. In the Open Era, Borg in 1978 is the best with over 66% for the entire season. Federer's best is 61% for a few years.

    McEnroe in 1984 was at 65.32% which is the third highest of the Open Era next to two years by Borg. I believe Borg averaged over 65% for a few years which is like hitting .450 in baseball or shooting a 55 in the Masters Golf Tournament for one round.
     
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    70's and 80's

    It just speaks to the caliber/quality of the players at the time...you are looking at hall of famers here... Bjorn, Mac, Connors, Vilas, Lendl....these are multi slam winners all....compared to today when it is Fed, Nadal (when not hurt) and not much else...

    But, everyone insists today's competition is much, much, better than back then....uh-huh
     
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    These are just numbers. In tennis, it is utterly meaningless. In tennis, it's who wins the final point. You can win 0-6,7-6,7-6, and still win the match, same as winning 6-0,6-0.

    Was funny looking at the list, and seeing John McEnroe's 1990 Australian Open result in the top 10 for winning percentage! I mean what does that say ? ? ? McEnroe was defaulted from the 1990 Australian Open! Further proof this list is meaningless.

    Goran Ivanisevic barely won more games than he lost at 2001 Wimbledon. A worse record than some on the best winning percentage list. But Goran won Wimbledon! That's what counts the most!
     
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    Of course you're right but the point of the thread is DOMINANT tournament stats. It is interesting to know. Over the long run the players with more dominant stats in this category should have better winning percentages.

    It's like stats in baseball. Everything equal the teams with better stats will win more.
     
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  12. Nathaniel_Near

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    http://tennis28.com/slams/games_winpct_tournament.html

    Nadal is on course to produce another top 5 entry for most dominant Slam Event performances( by numbers) of the Open Era.

    One Slam - Open Era (100+ games, 65%+)
    Rank Player       Year Tournament Games W-L Game W%

    1 Bjorn Borg*   1978 Roland Garros 127-32 79.9%
    2 Bjorn Borg*   1980 Roland Garros 126-38 76.8%
    3 Rafael Nadal*  2008 Roland Garros 128-41 75.7%
    4 Guillermo Vilas* 1977 Roland Garros 128-43 74.9%
    5 Guillermo Vilas* 1977 US Open      106-41 72.1%

    In 2008 and by the end of round 4, Nadal had lost 22 games, and yet this year he has only lost 19 up to the same stage. In the 2008 quarter-finals, Nadal defeated Almagro in brutal fashion: 6-1, 6-1, 6-1. It will take a tremendous effort to keep ahead of schedule but he has a good chance of notching another top 5 effort of the Open Era (by the numbers).
     
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  13. kiki

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    For once, I agree.He was very underrated.can you refresh me whom did he triple bagelled in the first round?
     
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  14. kiki

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    take a full 10
     
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  15. Limpinhitter

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    Nothing before 1970?
     
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  16. Nathaniel_Near

    Nathaniel_Near G.O.A.T.

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    Sorry Limpin, but it seems whoever runs the site only has statistics for the Open Era.

    So to answer your question, yes but no.
     
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  17. pc1

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    Jack Kramer lost the fewest games in Wimbledon history at the 1947 Wimbledon I believe. He lost one set however in that tournament. Not sure what the games won and lost were.
     
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  18. Nadal_Power

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    Never knew about this, amazing run

    http://www.tennisarchives.com/coureurfiche.php?coureurid=3674

    According to this source, he lost 37 games, and that one set
     
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