Donald Young vs. Robby Ginepri

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  1. bigbanger

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    I just got back from the night session in San Jose and saw the Young/Ginepri match. As several people predicted in a thread below, Young lost 6-2 6-2 to a pretty mediocre Ginepri. It was the first time I'd ever seen Young play, and he's definitely a talented youngster, but he's got a ways to go before he can compete in the pro ranks. His serve is probably his biggest weakness - his first serve rarely, if ever, got up over about 104, if the San Jose radar gun could be trusted. Anyway, it was interesting to see an up-and-coming American in his ATP debut. I thought he acquitted himself pretty well. Anyone else see the match and care to chime in?
     
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  2. dennis1188

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    A clear case of boy v man tonite.
    Let's, see him again in about another 2 1/2 years.
     
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  3. Nike Tennis2005

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    please tell me what there were both wearing.
     
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  4. verdasco67

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    just as i guessed....6-2 6-2 (ginepri)
     
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  5. BreakPoint

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    Actually, they both played in their underwear. Nike cancelled both of their contracts so they had nothing to wear, so they decided just to go with the jockstraps. ;) :lol:
     
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  6. BreakPoint

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    I saw the match and I thought Young gave up mentally a bit too soon. For someone that just won the AO Juniors and is ranked #1 in the world in Juniors, that surprised me, since he obviously had to win lots of matches to get there. I would have thought he would already know how to mentally get through a match and fight hard. It seemed to me that early in the 2nd set he had already mentally resigned to the fact that he was going to lose.

    I agree with Johnny Mac, though. Donald has great hands, especially at net. He should have come to the net more. It's the first time I've seen him play and I think he's got a great future ahead of him.
     
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  7. AndrewD

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    Let's just hope that people give him time to grow up a bit and grow into his game. Not many guys come shooting out of the blocks like a Hewitt, Agassi or Chang (or even, for that matter, a Sampras or Safin). Sounds like he's going to be a very good player but maybe he'll take a little longer to get there than some. Would I be right in assuming he won't be going the college route, even if his pro results aren't that good?
     
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  8. goober

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    Well he pretty much can't go the college route since he is already a pro (i.e accepted prize money and endorsements.) NCAA rules let only amateurs play.
     
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  9. pound cat

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    Why would he want to go to college when he can become a professional tennis player? College graduate does not = smarter person or more money. I bet that given the opportunity/talent almost everyone on this board would opt for the opportunity to be a pro, or else they wouldn't spend so much time posting here & talking, reading about, playing & watching tennis.
     
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  10. goober

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    Well I don't know if I would be a pro if I were always ranked around 800-1400. Those guys are barely scraping by.

    While its true there are lots of smart and rich people who never went to college, if you took a 1000 people the ones that went to college as a group earn more money than those who never went. It's pretty difficult to get a good job if you don't have a college degree or some specific skill.
     
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  11. Nike Tennis2005

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    C'mon!!! just tell me what they wore.
     
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    LOL Nike_Tennis, you're starting to sound like one of those phone-pal services...
     
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  13. Brent Pederson

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    I saw the match. Young held his own on groundies, but was definitely outserved. Ginepri's serve won him a lot of free points. Young is obviously not used to seeing serves of this caliber, he stood right on the baseline to return, never took a step back, even though he was shanking returns off the first serve frequently. Young's serve rarely had any heat on it, needs to work on his motion to get more legs, etc involved. Of, course, it was like watching Bambi vs. Godzilla. Young probably is 5'6" and 110 lbs, Ginepri about 6'2" and 190. Young's groundies and volleys, though, were smooth and beautiful to watch. He's got a smooth, stylish game. Once he gets a serve, watch out.

    Oh, Ginepri wore a pink silk taffeta with a rose brooch, and Young wore a modest purple ball gown with a feather boa...
     
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  14. Ash Doyle

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    C'mon Nike...Feather Boas are so last year.
     
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  15. FalconX

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    Did young attempt to wipe his sweat with the feather boa?That may be when things started to go wrong for him.
     
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  16. bigserving

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    Ginepri handled his business like a pro who did not want to be thought of as yesterday's phenom.

    Young's service motion looked rushed. It reminded me a little of Roscoe Tanner..............without the pace. His forehand is very wristy but the ball jumps off his strings off of both sides. They way that he played last night, he would have beat most juniors.

    He looked to me to be about 5-10 140, plenty of frame to grow into. In time, he will be fine.

    Robbie did look good in pink. Donald's boa was so last week but he wore it well. Anybody know when Nike started making boa's? Does TW sell them?

    Agassi tonight!!
     
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  17. BreakPoint

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    I agree that Ginepri's serve was just too much for Young. He has a great kick serve out wide in the deuce court which jumped over Young's two handed backhand (he's lefty) consistently. I actually thought Young should have stepped in even more to try and catch that kick serve off the bounce before it had a chance to bounce over his head. BTW, to me, Ginepri only looks about 5' 11" or so, although he does have the biceps which he likes to show off.

    Yes, they did START the match in pink and purple gowns and feather boas, but since it was so hot and the long ankle length evening gowns were inhibiting their movement, they both did eventully strip down to their undies in the 2nd set and played almost naked. They did, however, keep their nylon stockings and Jimmy Choo high heel pumps on.

    It wouldn't suprise me if Nike made boas, since they did start making capri pants for Nadal.
     
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    I don't think Robby is 6 feet tall. He played dubs with JMG yesterday and looked a head shorter than him (Robby wore white shorts and white sleeveless; JMG wore white shorts and white collared shirt with red piping trim. Thanks Prince, I am loving JMG's new clothes. Since the match was not at the Arena, the dress code was 'business casual') Robby is very wiry and doesn't seem to have much fat on him at all. If those two get their doubles match moved to the arena, I swear I will steal all of their shirts and force them to play bare chested.

    Quote from Donald Young floating around the arena... he said he felt bad that he didn't give the crowd a 'better show.' I'm a little bit concerned about that. I just think perhaps he should, at this point, focus a little more inward and develop his game. He can worry about the crowd, the fans, and 'giving back' later on. I fear this kid is going to burn out before he can reach his potential. I hope I am very wrong about that.
     
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  19. Nike Tennis2005

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    You guys are idiots. i want out.
     
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  20. Brent Pederson

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    As I recall, the door is always open (both directions).

    By the way, I don't pay any attention to what the players are wearing. I am a, uh, guy. T-shirts and shorts would be my best guess...
     
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    It's all part of the Nike cross dressing line headlined by Nadal aka Rat Face Square Pants.
     
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    ROTFLMAO!!!
     
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