Donnay Pro One 97 users club

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by neil1b, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    it's a pretty powerful racquet, going by the posts in this thread there's a few of us that have strung it with not enough tension. I made the same mistake

    from memory the rip control is pretty powerful, perhaps go a bit higher than 55?

    Say 58? Maybe even more... Better to have too much tension, than not enough (I learnt this lesson this week)
     
    #51
  2. neil1b

    neil1b Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    228
    Rip control I'd do at 60-62
     
    #52
  3. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    what are your thoughts on Babolat VS neil?

    Same? around 60-62? Keep in mind my elbow has hurt me in the past...
     
    #53
  4. neil1b

    neil1b Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    228
    Full gut or are you going to hybrid? How your style? Big swing? Own power? Let me know.
     
    #54
  5. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    Thanks.

    Full gut, medium swing, shbh. Can play all court.

    PLayed with Klip NG at 55 and I was hitting way past the baseline, unless I shortened my swing and hit more topspin. My backhand slice and serve felt awesome though.

    I don't mind using a hybrid, as long as it's comfy on my arm, and doesn't need restringing that often...
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2012
    #55
  6. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    Ok, based on the advice here I adjusted my order to be strung at 59lbs. Should have it Wednesday!
     
    #56
  7. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    I like this racquet so much, just bought another off evil bay..

    :)

    Serving with this thing is magic.
     
    #57
  8. shogun90

    shogun90 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Messages:
    369
    Location:
    Rhode Island, USA
    I think I was watching it and someone used the Buy it Now.
     
    #58
  9. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    UPS says mine will get here tomorrow. 4 5/8 with 2 full size sleeves added to it. I requested the lightest weight and most head heavy one they had (in that order of priority - to counter adding 2 full size sleeves to the grip). On lightest weight it says "done," and on most head heavy it says "only 3 racquets in stock." Will be interesting to see what specs I ended up with. Strung with Head Rip Control at 59lbs.
     
    #59
  10. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    twas I! :)
     
    #60
  11. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    It arrived. I didn't exactly get lucky with the specs - the one I demoed was 310gr 320mm balance and 68 flex. The one I got (requesting the lightest and most head heavy in that order) is 311gr and 319mm with 68 flex. I was hoping for a 307 with a 320mm balance or something, but this isn't bad.

    I had TW add 2 full size grip sleeves to the 4 5/8 grip. This yielded a grip that measures just a hair over 4 7/8 (meaning it's still small for me, I'm going to play like this but may cut the sleeves off and go my usual Gamma build up sheet route when it comes time to regrip. With the two sleeves, it weighs 353 grams. The upside to the sleeves is nice and easy and clean and a little bit lighter. The sheets on the other hand let you build up the racquet more without losing the bevels (2 sleeves is the max you can do and not lose the bevels - there is slight rounding with 2, but it's not really noticeable unless you do a side by side comparison). I may leave it though, because as is it's 12 points headlight. I'll probably end up adding some lead, but want to keep it to a minimum.

    BTW, when did racquets stop coming with covers?
     
    #61
  12. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    430

    marlinspike, buddy, how big are your hands!! Glad you finally got your racquets. The weight is certainly starting to add up, :)

    tw are pretty good with matching sticks with flex, weight and balance. im really happy with the results of my pair as well.

    Let us P1 users know how such a highlight version goes with the rip control.
     
    #62
  13. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    A proper grip size for me would be 5 1/8. I generally build to 5 though for weight purposes. I took a 4 3/8 to 5 by using 4 build up sheets and a Wilson Sponge replacement grip. I think my first step will be to replace the Donnay grip with a Sponge before I try building it up any more.

    I didn't get to play today since my partner got caught up in something, but I did work on my serve. I've never used Rip Control before. It's EXTREMELY easy on the arm in this racquet, but I miss some of that stiffer feel the Donnay poly-hybrid that came in the demo I had.
     
    #63
  14. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    Hmmm, whatever paint Donnay uses to paint the word "DONNAY" on the racquet comes right off...like even just putting lead tape on it, if you pull the tape off the letter come of with it.
     
    #64
  15. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    the quality is very poor, you'll forget about that when you play with it though
     
    #65
  16. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    Haha, so true. I knew about the quality problems (though not the paint) before buying, but when I was demoing racquets not only did I notice an immediate improvement with the P1, but my tennis partner (who is leaps and bounds better than I am) commented that I was suddenly playing much better. I went back to my second favorite that I demoed (a Dunlop Bio 300 with weight added to the throat) and even my own old racquet to see if I had actually improved, and it was confirmed that it was just the racquet. I'll take all the help I can get :)
     
    #66
  17. RollTrackTake

    RollTrackTake Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    690
    Location:
    The Grindhouse
    +1 the paint on the lettering of my main P1 came off quite easily. On my second there was a chip straight from the factory!!
     
    #67
  18. neil1b

    neil1b Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    228
    #68
  19. RollTrackTake

    RollTrackTake Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    690
    Location:
    The Grindhouse
    Tempting to pick up another one at a lower price. Though I think the 4 I own already will last me until these things are in the sale section at an even deeper discount.
    I like my poly/syn gut hybrid but I've been drilling with option 3, full bed of multi, and really like the added comfort. Wish I had strung it around 60lbs but I'm learning to control the added oomph the multi provides. 8 hours of drills & practice and the Addiction is showing a lot of fraying. Hopefully they break soon. Next up, RIP Control, Multifeel or Gamma TNT??
     
    #69
  20. rlau

    rlau Professional

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2008
    Messages:
    1,232
    Location:
    NL
    Playing with a fraying X-one Biphase string setup I broke four center mains strings on an overhead smash. Made a nice cracking sound, but I lost the point...

    Next string job: Weiss Cannon B5E 1.25 mm mains, Mosquito Bite 1.16 mm crosses, around 54 lbs.
     
    #70
  21. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    Ok, so I finally got a chance to play with it. I still haven't won a set off my partner (he's WAY better than I am), but I did finally go 6-4 on one set (it's usually 6-2 at best). I think I could have done the Rip Control 16g at 57lbs and been ok, but 59lbs isn't bad.
     
    #71
  22. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    60 pound VS Touch NG is perfect!

    My god, I knew NG would be good, but I didn't think it would be this good. Sooo much power and control, I've never hit so cleanly and hard in my life. Great racquet and string combo. Sounds like a gun going off when I hit hard.

    THe only downer is the string movement, just need to chuck in the string savers. Really happy I ordered another.

    ZERO elbow soreness, and I hit for nearly 2 hours with a ball machine today.
     
    #72
  23. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    430
    Ramos77, VS is $43. I hope you do your own stringing. They use to only cost about $30 last I remember. Have you ever tired technifiber x ones? Lots cheaper and you can play in the wet without feeling for your wallet.

    I've had plenty of time with these sticks now, boy, these 16 x 19 are stings breakers!! Iv already blown a few sets. But the pop it makes is like a gun! Loud POP, POP! Every shot.

    I have no idea why people are still knocking this stick, it's quite perfect. Power, control, comfort, amazing spin, pretty good feel and Darth Vader black.

    The only thing that's not good is quality. It chips pretty easily and the grommets sometimes look out of place.
     
    #73
  24. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    True, but it's twice the price here... A cheap string will cost $20 here, I dont mind spending another $20 ( I import them from the states)

    I don't break strings often, and I can't be bothered re-stringing every few weeks, getting my racquets restrung is a few hours of a Saturday I would rather be doing something else.

    I've bought 8 packs of VS, so I might end up putting something else in the crosses to get cheaper mileage. The main thing is I'm happy, and I can play without soreness with the racquet and string. I might consider a hybrid with a soft poly to get more spin.

    I might try the Tecnifibre in another racquet though, so thanks for the suggestion.

    Forgot to mention, my stringer put in power pads with the gut, I don't know how much they help but damn the string bed feels like butter, I've never hit so hard.

    Are the tretorn pressureless balls easier to hit hard than normal balls? Cause I was smashing the cover off the balls, and they were landing in for once...
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2012
    #74
  25. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    430
    Hi ramos77,

    The Tretorn presureless balls does not bounce as high as new slazenger balls, but they hold their bounce really really well. They are awesome value for money, this is all we use at our parts the courts. Last a long time and still bounce like new.

    Hey, any chance of taking a pic of your power pads in your sticks and post it up. I want to try it out as well, did your stringer use just old leather grips? Thanks dude, just curious, cheers
     
    #75
  26. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    no problems

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    #76
  27. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    430
    hhmmmm, thanks ramos77,

    i shouldnt be fiddling around with my set up, but im gonna try these power pads in 2 weeks after i break my current strings.

    i might not need to use dampeners if this thing works, lol
     
    #77
  28. Faithfulfather

    Faithfulfather Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2011
    Messages:
    373
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Got a new one and the serial number states it weights 308 but it actually weights 312 grams. It weights 11.7oz after string, over grip, and dampener. This one is the heaviest of the 3 even know the specs state it should be the lightest. Don't always trust the specs.
     
    #78
  29. ramos77

    ramos77 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    605
    got my second one today!

    fast shipping!
     
    #79
  30. Dgdavid

    Dgdavid Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Messages:
    997
    Location:
    Surrey, England
    any comparisons with the X-Red 99 or X-Dual Core Gold 99?
     
    #80
  31. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    I demoed the X-Dual Gold 94. It's a totally different racquet. I honestly don't see the X-Duals as being something someone would want to play with other than for the challenge, or maybe if you're super strong and just can't control other racquets.
     
    #81
  32. Dgdavid

    Dgdavid Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Messages:
    997
    Location:
    Surrey, England
    thanks Marlin. are the x-duals supposed to be more at the players end or tweener end (relative to the Pro One)?
     
    #82
  33. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    Calling the X-Dual (at least the Gold and Platinum, I didn't try the Silver) a player's stick is an understatement IMHO. They'd be great for a spin doctor, but for me I found an off-center shot will easily twist the racquet in your hand and they are VERY low powered.
     
    #83
  34. RollTrackTake

    RollTrackTake Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    690
    Location:
    The Grindhouse
    #84
  35. skeeter

    skeeter Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2010
    Messages:
    439
    Location:
    Colorado
    Good catch! TW, if your reading, any input on this?

    I demo'd the Dual Pro from Donnay (they say the Pro One 18x20 will have the same specs) and really liked it; a bit more control than the Pro One (16x19) but with still the same amount of power. Will be interesting to see if the PO 18x20 really is the same racquet just different cosmetics, or if there are slight differences.
     
    #85
  36. RollTrackTake

    RollTrackTake Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    690
    Location:
    The Grindhouse
    I feel committed the Pro 1 16x19 by virtue that a bought a bunch. I'm almost afraid to demo the 18x20 cuz I don't want to have to switch! Kal El & Suppawat have commented a bit on the 18x20 in an older thread. IIRC, the opinions expressed were that the 18x20 did have noticeably more control. Cannot recall if they thought the power level was equal. Will be interested to see both frames on the TW power map.
     
    #86
  37. marlinspike

    marlinspike New User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2012
    Messages:
    56
    Location:
    Hampton, VA
    I didn't expect the specs to be so different. Slightly heavier, more headlight, and stiffer. I'm glad I didn't wait for my purposes.
     
    #87
  38. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    430
    good find, looks like good specs too besides the flex part. its getting abit up there, combined with a more dense string pattern, might not be as comfy as the 16 x 19.

    funny how the recommended string tension is 40-60. such a wide range.
     
    #88
  39. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    430
    out of all the sticks i've own, these P1 have to be the worst string breakers. im already on my 5 restring on both racquets.

    my old Prince POG OS, has now been beaten in this department.
     
    #89
  40. RollTrackTake

    RollTrackTake Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    690
    Location:
    The Grindhouse
    I'm thinking it's your string choice or you hit über hard. I get my normal string life with the P1. Full multi lasts 10-12 hours. Hybrid = 12-14. Full poly I usually don't break because I restring after 12+ hours. Other 16x19 pattern racquets are about the same for me. Are you coming from a racquet with a denser pattern? Do you use really thin gauge strings or high tension? Just curious.
     
    #90
  41. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    430
    yeah, im a hard hitting 5.0 spinner who hate the feel of polys, i now use 16g strings and have been using my pt57a 18 x20 for a long time, the strings on that stick lasted twice as long as the P1.

    think i have to start putting poly mains in this P1 to save some money, when you have kids, man, it gets abit tight sometimes.
     
    #91
  42. RollTrackTake

    RollTrackTake Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Messages:
    690
    Location:
    The Grindhouse
    5.0 heavy spinner....Poly?? you may need kevlar in that thing! And believe me I know about needing to save few bucks on tennis stuff cuz summer camps are around the corner, and violin lessons and the like. I had to moonlight just to buy a couple of Pro 1's!!!
     
    #92
  43. suppawat

    suppawat Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2005
    Messages:
    575
    Location:
    Bangkok
    Nice find! The spec on TW seems very different from the Dual Pro I used to play, especially the RDC68 stiffness. Not really sure if I can play it but 6pts HL is definitely a good enhancement over 4pts HL of the Pro One 16x19. It seems Donnay trying to add more power by increasing stiffness rather than keeping high swingweight.
     
    #93
  44. suppawat

    suppawat Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2005
    Messages:
    575
    Location:
    Bangkok
    Kind of agree :) Not only the Gold 94, but all thin beam racquets are for specific group of players. Those who tried the X-Series or X-Dual end up either really love or really hate the frames. No one said X-Dual/X-Series are average racquets.
     
    #94
  45. skeeter

    skeeter Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2010
    Messages:
    439
    Location:
    Colorado
    Suppawat, I've got a Dual Pro 1 coming my way. Any thoughts on string and tension that you found worked? I typically use gut/poly hybrid in other racquets; curious how this might work in the DP. I'm a 4.0 all courter, 1hbh, singles and doubles. Thanks.
     
    #95
  46. suppawat

    suppawat Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2005
    Messages:
    575
    Location:
    Bangkok
    X-Dual Pro is a low powered racquet. I tried Donnay X-Poly/X-Syncore at 52 lbs, and loved the feel of this hybrid. The only problem is low power. Then I changed main string to Weisscannon SilverString and it helped. Now I use a test poly string at 52 lbs (look like ALU Power Rough, but softer) and lead tape at 10/2 and 4/8. It plays much better.
     
    #96
  47. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    430
    Hi suppawat, does the stiffness of the Dual pro play softer than what the rating says it is like the pro one? or is it quite abit more stiff?
     
    #97
  48. suppawat

    suppawat Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2005
    Messages:
    575
    Location:
    Bangkok
    I think it plays softer than 64RA. May be 55-58.
     
    #98
  49. JackB1

    JackB1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    13,920
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    Can anyone compare the Pro 1 to the new Pure Drive 2012 model?
     
    #99
  50. JackB1

    JackB1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    13,920
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    I know you tried the Formula 100....how does that compare with the Pro1?
     

Share This Page