Donnay Pro One 97 users club

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  1. Xonemains

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    I can only compare it to the PDR, the standard PD is too light.

    firstly, if i was forced to choose from the whole babolat stable, i would choose the PRD. Awesome racquet. big power, big serves, big groundies, big everything but it still has that Babolat feel. Which is tinny, stiff and uncomfy. bit harder to control all that power sometimes when you really need to place a shot.

    the Pro One, is very very comfortably. if you train and play proper 3 set matches 12-15 hours a week, you need to look after your arm. the P1 hasnt got the punch that the PDR provides, but it has controllable power! this is crucial!!. serves and groundies are still very very powerful compared to alot of players sticks.

    Both sticks are perfect for the current modern game, baseline bashing all day long. But for me, I still need to control my heavy shots and need a tad more comfort. So the P1 for me.

    On another note, I beat an undefeated 5.0 using a Head YT PP last night. the P1 just had a tad more easy power at the end of the 3rd set. :)
     
  2. Xonemains

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    forgot to mention, the PDR is also more forgiving and bit easier to use.
     
  3. RollTrackTake

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    The Pro 1 swings heavier than the F100. It also hits a heavier ball. The Pro 1's smaller head size = less room for error. Both racquets serve very well. The Pro 1's weight distribution allows me to hit great flat or spin serves with ease. The F100 also serves great spin or flat. There's less weight in the head so in 3 or more sets it's easier to maintain my racquet head speed. For whatever reason I can't find a rhythm with the F100. Still holding out hope for the F100 mainly because of the TW review.
     
  4. mrrockstar

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    shorter handle

    Just bought a Pro One 97 in HK.

    I found it is shorter handle as comparing with my current Volkl Pb mid 10 (I am 2hhb)

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  6. Xonemains

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    Hi Praetorian. Welcome to the club. Yes, the grip on the handle is abit shorter. if you have huge hands, you have to wrap the overgrips higher or get a new replacement grip and wrap higher. if not, this grip is better for you, it forces you to hold the left hand as low as possible so you are using 95% of your left hand and the right hand just to guide it through. more leverage too.
     
  7. Xonemains

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    lol, you dont need a oversize for the extremely lazy days, the pro one 97 will do just fine. it has enough power for you to just set up and swing slowly and steady. it will still be a good ball:)

    you're coming from a Volkl Pb mid 10, the pro one 97 already seems like an oversize to you. can you compare the volleys for the above 2 sticks when you have time.

    the Oversize does look extremely powerful though, good for the intermediate players.
     
  8. Praetorian

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    Haha.. Might be some cross talk going on. I actually do play, with an x-dual pro. I just want to pick up a racket to be silly with. You know for those time, when you just want to serve through the fence, or hit the overheard out of the courts with minimal effrort. :)
     
  9. Xonemains

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    LOL! so you want to spend $200 on a racquet so that you can actually hit an overheard out of the courts?:):)

    i better buy an OS as well incase the guys in the next court overheard me talking to myself, :twisted:
     
  10. Dgdavid

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    Xonemains, what was your recent racket history before you switched to the P1?
     
  11. JackB1

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    That TW review of the F100 is very suspicious
     
  12. mbisaac

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    Just sold my PD 2012 and picked up the Pro Ones. All in similar power but the Pro Ones have more control, are less stiff, and feels more solid. I sold the PD as I started to experience tennis elbow and shoulder pain which I never had before. I tried a few different string setups at different tensions which didn't help. As such, I started demoing and landed on the P1. I also added leather grips which also made it more headlight. Great all around racquet
     
  13. Xonemains

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    yeah, someone else has seen the light!! you mirror my thoughts buddy.

    i think the PDR has a tiny bit more power, and forgiveness. But P1 beats it over control, comfort and feel. P1 feels very solid. it dosent even need lead in the hoop.
     
  14. Xonemains

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    i dont know why you see this as useful but i hope it helps you in some way or another.

    i spend about 12-15 p/week on the courts, mostly drills and practice then some matches. our club has a decent pro shop so we demo all we like right there and then, (whoever breaks strings on demos, pays for a new set). i bought quite a few racquets over the years, (heaps of babolat too) but the ones i will mention sits in my cupboard, will never be sold to anyone! it has my sweat, blood, heart, battle scars and tears on each stick. Big wins and bad losses as well.

    - 1 x Prince POG OS
    - 2 x Head LM Radical OS
    - 2 x Head Microgel Prestige Pro
    - 3 x Pro Kennex Black Ace 98
    - 2 x Head Youtek Prestige Pro
    - 1 x Head PT57A, Microgel model
    - 2 x Donnay Pro One 97, 16 x 19

    I prefer to play with the Black ace and my pt, these 2 feel the best!
    But this pro one gets the job, cant beat the power, spin, and control the P1 provides. comfort and special feel is a bonus.
     
  15. RollTrackTake

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    as much as i like the Pro 1 (16x19), I don't see it as very good in terms of control. maybe compared to Pure Drives and the like it slightly edges them on control but it's no where near the control level of a Prestige, Radical, Pure Storm, etc... I would love to try the 18x20 version out to see how much more control you get from the denser string pattern.
     
  16. Xonemains

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    Agree, p1 has more control than tweeners, but not 18 x 20 prestiges and the like. but tennis is really turning into a spin and power game these days. less touch and volleys.
     
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    good point. it's that reason why I'm using the Pro 1. IMO it gives you everything the popular tweeners offer and edges them in comfort and yes to a small degree control. Backhand slice really shine for me as well.
    The Pro 1 really is an interesting racquet in that it doesn't have standard tweener specs (100" head, 11oz-ish static, low 300's SW, 22mm+beam). But it offers the power of PD and its clones. Maybe its more of a lite players racquet? BTW, the Yonex E Zone XI 98 looks very similar on paper:twisted:
     
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    Practiced serves for 1.5 hours today, the more I serve with it the more I love it..

    Definitely sticking to this racquet, might even get a third one when I start playing comps..

    Played around with strings but full bed of babolat vs 16 touch at 58 pounds is perfect for me. First string job still going strong.
     
  19. Dgdavid

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    Useful because it gives me some idea of if I might like it too if other users have used with rackets I also like. Donnay is the only make that cannot be demoed in the UK and is also pretty expensive compared to other frames as they have to come in from Europe. About 30% more than normal.

    As it happens, Radicals, POG OS and Prestiges are in my racket history too!
    Thanks for your response, appreciated.
     
  20. JackB1

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    Played for a few hours tonite with the Pro One and came away very impressed. Swingweight is higher than my PD12, but I think I can adjust to it. The racquet is heavy enough to do some of the work for you plowing thru the ball. Very SOLID feel on impact and when you crack a semi flat shot through the court, it feels awesome. Definitely a great racquet for driving the ball as opposed to loopy donnay shots, which I do more with the PD. Serves were booming and I was hitting a low flat hard serve, which I don't normally do. Nice feel also and volleys and net play were great. I am just wondering if this may be too much racquet for a 3.5-4.0 level player? It feels closer to a 95" than a 100" for a 97" headsize. No real complaints yet, but I have to see how this higher swingweight works out for me.
     
  21. Xonemains

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    Hi Jack, just set up earlier. Once you get use to a sw of 330's and up, there's no going back to anything lower, just dosent feel right.

    3.5-4.0 usually start setting up once the ball passes the net, then what happens is that they arm the ball. this makes the racquet seems slow.

    If you just move into position a tad earlier, use your legs and hips for your power strokes, your hands dosent do much. It's just glides. This is the start of extreme racquet head speed, even with very high sw sticks.
     
  22. JackB1

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    Great advice. I think the key is to use the kinetic chain your body has and not muscle or arm the ball. I have to admit, I do enjoy the extra natural power the Pro One gives you. This has to be the most solid feeling 11.5 oz racquet ever. Feels every bit as solid as any 12 oz stick.
     
  23. RollTrackTake

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    I agree here. As with any heavy racquet, positioning and early set up are key in getting good consistent results. It's taken me a few months with the Pro 1 to really start doing the above consistently on 90% of my strokes. Coming from a Pro Open I could be lazy a lot and whip that racquet with my arm and come away with a great shot. The same is possible with the Pro 1 but if you arm your strokes often you will fatigue (and possibly injure) your arm quickly.
     
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    I am coming from a similar 11 oz racquet (PD 12) and am going thru the same adjustment. It probably an increase in sw of about 10-15 pts. Hope the transition goes quick! :). I used to play with a YT Radical Pro, so I know I can do it.
     
  25. Xonemains

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    geezzz!!! so you went from a YT RP to PD, then to P1.

    talk about a difference in sw, LOL :)
     
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    The YTRP was about 2 years ago. I have been using 11 oz. Sw 320 sticks for the past year, so I hope I can adjust to the swingweight.
     
  27. ultradr

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    what happened to 18x20 supposed to be released by now?
     
  28. Praetorian

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    Hmmm... it's not on the TW page anymore.
     
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    I am getting more used to the higher swingweight. I agree its hard to go back now! I tried my stock PD at the end of the night and it felt too light with very little plowthru. What level are you Xone? I am 4.0 in one league and 3.5 in another.
     
  30. Faithfulfather

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    Donnay is up to their old shenanigans.
     
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    Such as....?
     
  32. RollTrackTake

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    10 grams of boom!

    I've been using the Pro 1 since december. I'm not sure why i never put the 10 gram butt-cap in before but i did today and wow! I read others reviews extolling how it played better with the extra weight but I stupidly ignored it. Usually i'm good for anywhere from 4 to 8 aces per 3 sets against high 3.5's to low 4.5's that populate the ladder i play in. today in casual play i blasted at least one ace per service game. the 10 grams makes my serve that much harder and the Pro 1 feels a lot better when striking the ball. the older guys i started with in the morning were surprised how much harder my serves were flying. the high schoolers came next and to their shock they watched bunch whiz by them at high speed. I want to get a juggs gun and clock speed for my own curiosity. if you play a pro 1 I implore you to at least try the 10 gram butt cap!

    ***side note, I did have to adjust a little bit on groundstrokes.
     
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    I dont have any Donnay weighted buttcaps, but I replaced the stock grip with a leather grip, adding about 10 grams to the handle, and it indeed plays much more to my liking. So it's a mod I'd recommend too.
     
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    My setup as well, and it;s been working great.

    Final weight 11.9 oz, 6.~ pts hl, sw roughly 325
     
  35. Xonemains

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    i'm the same as you guys, i started with 3 grams at 12, then 2 grams, then no lead in the hoop at all. just all the weight at the handle now. talk about solid hey!!
     
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    i'm training for an open tournament now, so i guess that 5.0 in your language.

    i play guys that dont make many errors, you actually have to win the point.

    but when i play lower levels guys, i just pound the crap out of the ball, they usually do an error after 3/4 heavy shots.

    P1 is a god for pounding at the baseline!
     
  37. Faithfulfather

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    Promoting a frame and then......poof! It's gone. Don't get me wrong, I really like my pro one. It is my go to frame. I'm getting a formula 100 today to try out. I was just trying to throw in a "Super Trooper" reference.
     
  38. RollTrackTake

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    Donnay seems to have supply chain issues. TW kept pushing back the date of an expected shipment of Pro 1's after they sold out of their initial stock. I got 2 of mine from a local dealer and it took two weeks longer than anticipated to receive shipment. when i got them neither had the sticker with the specs on them. I hope the quality of the frames doesn't suffer.
     
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    can anyone tell me the length of the handle on the pro one? it does seem quite a bit shorter then the volkl but i have never played with one so i don't have a reference. thanks!
     
  41. mrrockstar

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    length is 19cm

     
  42. mimo

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    thank you!
     
  43. Lambo

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    the stats on the sticker is way cool
     
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    Ok..you-guys are killing me...LOL! Hearing all praise for the P1 has got me dying to try one. I'll probably just end up buying one and experimenting. Demoing isn't an option currently as I'm living in a fairly small city/town that has a small but active tennis population (all the players know one another) but there are no pro shops. Also, the TW demos are ALWAYS out on demo it seems.

    I'm coming back to the game after a fairly serious injury back in 2010 and I've found that my age and physicality are telling me to go with something lighter and more nimble than my previous racquets. I've been experimenting with BLX Blade 98 and I'm having decent success.

    The one thing I don't like about the Blade is the short handle. I've gone back to using two hands on the backhand and even with my hands bumping against each other the handle is just too short. I actually think my hands are average for a guy my size (5'9", 175) and I had no trouble with my Fischers. Seeing that the handle on the P1 is only 19cm (approx. 7.5 in) I may have to add some length to the handle.
     
  45. JackB1

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    I hit a 2handed backhand and had no issues with the handle length. I also have large hands. You can always wrap the grip up a little higher than the stock one.
     
  46. mimo

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    can you guys tell me how this racquet compares to something like the ig prestige mp in terms of power? i know the prestige has a heavier static weight but a relatively low swing weight so you have to generate a lot of your own power. is the saw thing true for the pro one or does that higher swing weight really give you some more power and plow through?
     
  47. JackB1

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    The Pro 1 has a good amount more power than the Prestige MP.
    A nice medium swing can produce good power, but a lot of fine
    tuning can be done with strings and tension.
     
  48. mimo

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    thanks jack! would you say it's closer to the 2012 PD in terms of power?
     
  49. JackB1

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    yes - very similar power level
     
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    Mark, one of the TW playtesters, commented that "It reminded me of the BLX Blade 98, from Wilson, but a bit more forgiving with the open string pattern." For those who have hit with it, do you agree? I briefly played with the BLX Blade 98 and prefer both a more open string pattern and something a little more forgiving, so if this is true - and I am in virtual line for a demo - then I may have found my next racquet.
     

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