Donnay Pro One 97 users club

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by neil1b, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. RollTrackTake

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    This was the most intensive stretch I've played with the P1 this summer. I'm trying to figure out if it's normal to have those types of days given my level of fitness (decent for a guy in mid 30's) and moderate fatigue. I usually play twice a week for a total of 6 hours. I upped it this past week to 9 hours and completely fell apart the last 2hrs with the exception of my serve. I could not get my normal topspin forehand anywhere in the court. I was either hitting it way long or in the net. I know on the over hits my footwork was bad. I know on the balls into the net my swings were bad. My technique is normally sound. Woke up today and the usual soreness is there, nothing special. Want to ascertain if this drop in play means:
    1. I'm not in good enough shape to wield the Pro 1 as much and as long as I did.
    2. Ergo 1, the racquet is too heavy for me.
    3. A significant drop in play with any racquet will occur when fatigue reaches a certain level.

    Wish I would have packed a lighter racquet to see if that would have helped my play.
     
  2. ChicagoJack

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    Just A few QuicK String Reviews

    Okay, I am beginning to experiment with string. My setup is pretty basic, leather grips, over grip and just enough lead in the handle to balance and match all three of my frames. Works out to 340 grams /12oz, -7 HL. What I've figured out so far is that the Pro One is really comfortable, so almost any string feels good. But finding something that syncs with the power level is a little tricky.

    Dunlop Black Widow 18g, 54 lbs.
    I've played three matches with it, and despite being a tricky volley set up, it's my favorite so far. I'm very arm sensitive, but in this frame a full bed of poly seems to be working. Crazy awesome for kick serves. Enough power to give me decent depth on my 1 handed back hand returns. Great for baseline bashing. Good for swinging hard, bossing the ball, and making it dive into the court with top spin. Not so good for volleys and over heads, it's a sharp edged poly. The thing that nobody ever mentions about volleys is maybe the most important thing. You need to read yer opponents swing, and judge the spin of the incoming ball, then adjust your racquet face to that spin. I've found that with textured stuff, the ball gets kind of stuck in the string bed, and adjusting for spin is really very difficult.

    Edit : Tuesday Night, 7.31 : Played my third doubles match tonight with the 18g Black Widow. I continue to like it for aggressive baseline bashing singles play, and the highlight reel kick serve. But the textured poly thing is just too difficult to overcome on volleys. Balls just get stuck in there and don't want to come out. That texture is nice when you are putting a beating on the ball, but not so nice when the other guys ball is all loaded up with spin, and you've got to undo all of that spin to stick a clean volley. I'm not ready to kick it to the curb just yet. I might order another set and keep one stick in my bag with Black Widow 18 just for a specific kind of singles play. I'm cutting it out so I can put in my go to set up in there. Tonic 16 / MSV Co-Focus 17L.


    Luxillon Alu Flouro, Mid-High Tension
    Not sure of tension, other than it felt really tight and kind of dead. Frame arrived pre-strung by previous owner. I might have liked it at lower tensions but couldn't really find a groove with it. Not spin friendly as polys go. My least favorite. Cut it out for more demos.

    Babolat Tonic 16 Mains / Kirschbaum Proline II, Med Tension
    I'm a big fan of Gut M's / Poly X's, and this is pretty decent member of an outstanding club. Good all around performer. Good, but not great volleys. Decent spin on serve and groundies. Just feels a little bit wild somehow. While I could easily generate enough spin to keep it in the court, I didn't feel confident enough to let my strokes really rip the way I can with the Black Widow. Cut it out for more demos.

    Big Hitter Black 7, 17g, 54 lbs
    Need a bit more time to render opinion, review to follow

    Genesis Thunderblast 16, 54 lbs
    Need a bit more time to render opinion, review to follow.

    Mains: Babolat Tonic Gut 16, X: MSV Co-Focus 17, 58/54
    In the on deck circle, not strung yet.

    Anybody have any recos for me, just shout em out.

    Thanks!

    Jack
     
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  3. Xonemains

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    hey Jack, good string reviews!!

    get back here after you have tested the big hitter black 17!!

    do you find the 18g dunlop black widows too lively??

    im starting to like 16 gauge strings in this stick, controls the power abit more

    yeah, hurry up and test those BHB 17 or 16 will ya
     
  4. Yaz

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    Had the same results with my P1...was using Kirschbaum PLII 17L gauge in my Youtek MP, but way too lively in the P1 - went to the 16 gauge version and it matched up with the frame much better IMO
     
  5. ChicagoJack

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    Xonemains, Yaz

    Yeah man for sure, will do. Been playing too many matches to do a decent string demo LOL. I get like 15 minutes to grab a few hits with each of my three then it's off to the races. I will say that for sure the Dunlop Black Widow 18 is by far the liveliest. But that's kind of what i like about it. It's not like a "wild" feeling ... like I dont know where the ball is going. It's lively like its giving me some extra pop that is controllable. Its also the harshest feeling. In all fairness, in might just be dead by now I have like 7 hours on it. For sure a fresh set of BHB7 feels much softer, and is a much sweeter impact feel. The BHB7 (at the thicker gauge) also has less power for sure. Will update as I get stuff figured out more.

    btw, How did you arrive at your string set up? I've no clue about either of those two strings

    - Jack
     
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  6. Eightmarky

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    Anyone tried the new Ext OS P1?
     
  7. Xonemains

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    Isnt the P1 16 x 19 powerful enough for you? :) LOL
     
  8. Xonemains

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    Questions on these fine sticks takes awhile to answer, all the boys playing with the Donnay P1's are actually playing tennis or training.

    I just wonder where i would go from here, i dont think think there is a better powerful players frame than the P1's.
     
  9. Cfidave

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    "Anybody have any recos for me, just shout em out"

    Just received a P1 16x19 off the TW FS section. It has the TW leather grip, and comes in at 346 grams, 7pts HL, with overgrip and dampner.

    I strung it up with MSV focus hex Soft, the new version, and I am impressed with both the string and racquet. Great pop, very good spin, but still very controllable. Comfort is there as well. Nice setup so far, in comparison to my IG Prestige Pro.
     
  10. ChicagoJack

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    Cfidave - Yeah cool, thanks for the reco. I didn't know about the new MSV string. Looked into it, and there's a 1.25 version available at another retailer and uhm.. it comes in black. Gotta rock the stealthy look with this PJ.Thanks again.
     
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  11. ChicagoJack

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    Dude. We are sooo on the same page. Yet, I've somehow convinced myself to demo at least three more frames. I've got an IG Radical Pro, an IG Prestige MP, and the new 18x20 version P1 on the brown truck to Jackville. If none of these impress me, I might just have to stock up with another 6 P1's, 12 grommets, a few spare palletes, and spend the next 15 years hanging out in the string section for grins and giggles.
     
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  12. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Eightymarky, I've noticed El Diablo already has one for sale in the TT classifieds. He's around here a fair amount, shouldn't be too hard to pry some opinions out of him.
     
  13. JackB1

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    The problem I had with the P1 was similar to what some of the playtesters said. It swings a lot heavier than its specs say and that makes it somewhat clunky and sluggish feeling. I also hit much flatter with the P1 for some reason and for me, consistency is most important, so I need topspin...not flat. Also the paintjob was god awful and all the letters were peeling off almost immediately.. It's a decent, solid feeling racquet, but for me there are better choices elsewhere.
     
  14. Eightmarky

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    Haha you got me. I love my P1 and yes get all the pop I need. But I used to play with an APDC+ and was just wondering what people's thoughts were on the plus version of the P1. :grin:
     
  15. Cfidave

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    Had a chance to play three competitive sets with the P1 last night. I have been playing with the Head IG Prestige Pro for about a year.

    My P1 is weighted very similar to my PP's at 346 grms 7pts HL, but feels and swings completely different. I found the P1 to be an absolute monster on return of serve. When I stepped in and took the ball early on the forehand side, I hit very heavy, deep, hard shots that were unreturnable many times. Topspin backhands were similar, but not hit as hard, my weaker stroke. Groundstrokes from the baseline were along the same lines, cannon shots if I stayed aggresive and attacked the ball. I found however, if I got tenative, or hit at all late, I lost control, and the ball tended to sail.

    Serving was also a lot of fun with this racquet. Lots of pace and lots of spin. Volleys suffered a little, until I got use to the somewhat sluggish feel compared to the PP.

    This racquet is a real weapon. I need to play with it a lot more before it replaces my PP's , but the controllable power this thing has is very unique.
     
  16. neverstopplaying

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    I picked up one of these in a trade - should arrive early next week. I'm quite anxious to give it a hit. The SW is a little more than what I'm used to, but I'll post some comments once I've played a few matches.
     
  17. Xonemains

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    All i wana know for sure is the comfort level of the new P1 18 x 20.

    4 points is quite alot, just gotta wait to see what everybody else thinks first, there's been some mixed reviews on how it plays.

    Let me know how you go CJack!! with the 18 x 20
     
  18. neverstopplaying

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    I had my 1st hit this morning, and this is possibly one of my best initial impressions of a racquet to date. I hear of people writing here how they "connect" to the ball, and I have to say that I've never quite had this feeling as much as today (maybe the MGPM which was love-at-1st hit).

    The racquet had a 1/4 grip so I built up to 3/8 which was fine as I wanted it a little more headlight. I had some old gaucho gut lying around, so I put it in the mains and Pro Hurricane in the x's (55/50 CP).

    I was most impressed with how easily I could hit a variety of shots and easily control my opponent. It very easy to hit serves with pace, placement ad spin. I have never been able to set up points with shot variety and win game after game so easily. Great plow through.

    I've played quite often recently quite with the RDiS 200 and will now permanently put them aside. The 200 is great for slices, variety of serves, but didn't offer me the variety, and can't drive through the ball easily like the Pro One.

    I haven't given up on the 400T (or BC20 [love the recoil]), but this has to be given serious consideration.
     
  19. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Xoenmains,

    I hit with the new 18x20 version a few days ago. But first things first, regarding the whole flex rating thing...

    According to Donnay's own data sheet specs, the 18x20 is softer at 62 ra, with 16x19 at 64. But I've given up paying attention to either of the two sources (TW or Donnay) for flex info, because the actual frames are all over the place. I'm not ragging on Donnay. I wish the other brands had the cohones to indicate the specs for every frame that rolls off the line. It's a good news, bad news kind of a thing. Donnay's own data sheets for the X-99 Blue show a flex of 59 Ra. Mine is 67, and every X-99 Blue I've looked at on on Flea Bay is 65-68. The 18x20 P1 I demoed had a flex of 67.

    The good news is the stickers. The good news is that I can call TW, or call Donnay directly, and ask them to gather me up 6 matching P1s, and ask for what ever flex I want. That is in fact, what I will be doing in the next week or two. I've traded emails a few times and have it pretty much lined up. I'm pushing all my chips in pretty soon.

    With regards to the 18x20, not my cup of tea. It's got the same super sweet impact feel, the same deadly weaponry feel, as the 16x19 but, jeezey creesy it hits a flat ball. I had a whole arm full of demo frames that same day. The IG Racical and Radical Pro, the IG Prestige, and Prestige Pro, a Pure Storm Ltd. GT, and a few Wilsons.

    If I was dead set on 18x20 I would much prefer the IG Prestige MP. I've played with lots of Prestiges over the years, and that one is a real gem. Found a groove with it right away. Easy spin, super control. It was the last demo standing for quite a while. I traded back and forth with that and my P1 for quite a bit. In the end, I felt like my P1 is more spin friendly, has oodles more put away power, comparable control, and despite the Prestige being a very sweet hit, there just is no better feeling racquet to me.

    Feel is of course a very personal thing. It feels to me very damp, muted in terms of vibration but not dead at all, feels very responsive. I've been hitting tennis balls since I was a eight years old, and never played a frame that feels as sweet as this, straight out of the box... no mods, no lead, no silicone in the pallet. I've got a layer and a half of grip and one overgrip on it, gets the balance and weight to my personal golden zone. I'm set. I found it. I'm happy. Putting all my chips in. Just gotta sell some old racquets to help take the sting out of buying six more.

    Jack
     
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  20. stronzzi70

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    Im a new member......
     
  21. Xonemains

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    Welcome to the dark side buddy, let us fellow users know what you think!:twisted:
     
  22. Xonemains

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    ChicagoJack!!!!

    I want to thank you so much for your last post, I was so tempted to buy the 18 x 20 and try it out for myself but now I know I don't have to.

    Totally agree about the IGPMP, it's smooth as well, but needs about 3 grams at 12. Just abit unstable high in the hoop. You know I gave up on my Head pt57a's for this stick, that's all I have to say.

    You always give a great post reply, I am so glad we are on the Team!


    On another note, I think the P1's are geared towards guys who have fully developed strokes. I always thought it swings pretty quick through the hitting zone. But one of the lower level players who was watching me crushing serves and forehands ask to have a go with my sticks. So I was feeding him some balls, he loves everything about it. I told him to use it in his next match. He did. I was watching very closely. Let's just say he struggled more than i thought. He was slow on everything except his serve. BTW, he uses a Prince Exo3 red.

    After the match, his arms were hurting abit, cause he was arming the ball so much. So even though the P1 is a god stick, it's not for everyone.:)
     
  23. Eightmarky

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    Try some Tour Bite 17. I tested some out this past weekend and loved it. Also tried the TB 18 and found it to be underpowered.
     
  24. cluckcluck

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    Can I be part of the club? I have x2 Donnay X-Dark Red 94's. :)
     
  25. falc02

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    New Member!

    I am proud to be a new member.

    I took a leap of faith and ordered these without trying (due to location, not laziness). Best decision I have made in a while. I am very happy with stick, I am looking forward to a long relationship with my P1 16x19.

    The next decision is whether I should add three more racquets to my current three.

    Cheers,
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  26. mimo

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    hey pro one users,

    i'm hoping you can help me with something. have any of you received a pro one with a flex rating of 64 as listed in the tw specs? all the ones i have found online tend to be 66 or 68. i know tw takes an average for their specs but this would mean that there are several racquets at or below a 64 flex rating, yet i have not found a single one.

    thanks in advance.
     
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    New Member!

    Count me in 3 times... :)
     
  28. stronzzi70

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    Many Thanks Xonemains, well.......What I can say...Im shock with the P1....I had a lot of racquet last years.....all brands...Babolat, head, wilson, yonex, Volkl , Dunlop....but never felt the magic like the p1...can do it everything right...for sure like you mentioned....is not for everyone...you need hit hard with a long swing...
    Right now , the P1 is my official racquet...also Im so happy, very happy with my tennis..
     
  29. ultradr

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    Thanks Jack for great review.
    Have you played with x-dual pro by any chance ?
    I'm wondering if they are different from pro one 18x20...


     
  30. Xonemains

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    Why not, theres no other thread for donnay users so this must be it:)

    what does the Dark red 94 play like? is it similar to the IG Mid?
     
  31. Xonemains

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    Falc02!! hey mate, so you finally found out you need more spin and power hey, lol, dont buy those next 3 racquets yet till you use these for awhile, just in case something amazing comes out of the fireworks. i doubt it though.
     
  32. Xonemains

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    the listed flex of 64 for tw is for a strung racquet. the raw flex is higher, something like 66,67 or even maybe 68. thats why you cannot find any sticks that are at 64 raw, then the flex wll be lower like 62 or something.

    dont worry about this too much, the P1 plays very comfortable at any flex rating
     
  33. mimo

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    thanks so much Xonemains. that makes sense. i knew there had to be a reasonable explanation!
     
  34. Eightmarky

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    I have three and they are all between 66-68.
     
  35. mimo

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    thanks eightmarky. it seems that is the typical unstrung flex for this racquet.

    can anyone recommend a multi that they like for this stick? i'm probably going to do a full bed and am curious what others have found to work well with this frame.

    thanks!
     
  36. Xonemains

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    if you going to go full bed of multis, lowest i would go is 56 lbs.

    57 -60 lbs sounds good for this stick. unless you got arm problems, then the lower tension is better. it will become a bazooka though
     
  37. Mig1NC

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    Hey guys, I'm thinking about trying the P1, since I traditionally preferred extended racquets, like ChicagoJack, but do you guys think this is too much stick for a weak 3.5 weekend warrior?
     
  38. Xonemains

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    Hey buddy, it might feel slow in the beginning but if you not playing people way above your level, you should be right. As soon as you play against the bigger hitters, you might find its not as quick.

    But in saying that, the guys that you play against now will say "man, how do you hit that hard!!" and your serves will be bigger as well, goodluck, oh and you will never have any arm problems.

    how about the Donnay Formula? have you tried that? thats seems a better fit.
     
  39. Mig1NC

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    Not yet. I've come to appreciate a thin beam, I'm afraid the Formula 100 would seem to thick.

    Although, I guess there's no harm in demoing one.
     
  40. falc02

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    Strings!

    Anyone recommend some strings to use with my P1?

    I have currently got available:

    Tourna BHBR 17
    Tourna BHB7 16
    Solinco Tour Bite 16
    SPPP 17
    Gosen Micro Sheep 16
    Gosen Micro 17

    Cheers,
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  41. TfReAk

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    I recently got my hands on a Donnay P1 16*19. My current racket is the Head MG Rad MP with a few grams of lead @3 and 9 and a TW leather grip.

    The first things I noticed is that I hit my 1hdbh and serve much better. The P1 is far more stable than my Radical (good on blocking a hard serve). On the serve I could get more spin (slice and kick) and mph out of the P1.

    It is my forehand that I (still) have got to get used to. My Radical swings easier and has more control (I have a better feeling on where the ball is going). The P1 also has more power and to keep the ball in you must spin it. When trying to flatten out the ball, it went for fences most of the time :)

    I could'nt figure out why my forehand didn't worked (besides the swingweight). Untill yesterday (I think :)). Maybe it's just me, but I have the feeling that the sweetspot of my Radical sits a bit higher in the stringbed. While the sweetspot of the P1 is more in the center...when I adjusted to this my forehand kept getting better. Still have to swing it some more before I decide to make a switch.

    BTW: Strung the P1 with MSV focus hex 1.18 27kg mains and 25kg cross (maybe I'll drop a few kg and will try a hybrid soon)
     
  42. stronzzi70

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    P1 for forehand...you need long swing and fast plus close with windshiled wiper forehand .
     
  43. jonahnaturals

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    Never hit better kick serves. The other night, I hit one that my buddy couldn't even get his racquet on fully stretched out - he's only about 5'8", but I've never gotten this kind of action on the ball with another stick (prestige pro, Organix 8 315, volkl PB 10 mid, Becker 11, Melbourne, Dunlop 400 Tour, etc.).

    Power is comparable to the Organix 8 315, but with more feel and control at the net.

    Can get more bite and easy power on the slice with the Organix 8 315, but the P1 is more than serviceable in this regard.
     
  44. Eightmarky

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    Mikeler has a great thread on multi's in the string section of this forum. One of his recommendations that I liked is Tfibre Multifeel.


    BHBR 17 is my go to for this racket. I absolutely love it. I tried TB 18 and thought if felt underpowered. I tried Black Widow 17 which provided more spin but less power than BHBR. I've haven't tried MSV in this racket but I loved MSV Focus Hex in my APDC. I've heard good things about BHB7. I'm not a fan at all of SPPP.

    In my opinion, the P1 really loves textured strings.
     
  45. ChicagoJack

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    Whew, It's been a busy few weeks for me, lots to catch up on.

    Stronzzi70, CluckCluck, Falc02, Njsigman - Welcome to the clubhouse, grab a beer and make yourselves at home.

    Ultradr - Nope, sorry man, I've not played with the x-dual pro, can't help ya with feedback on that one.

    Breaking News on Flex Rating - Donnay will soon be changing the online data sheet for the P1 16x19 to read as 67 ra not 64 ra.

    Back Story On The Flex Rating: 1. Donnay currently has the P1 16x19 listed as 64 Ra. 2. TW also has the P1 listed as 64 Ra. 3. Since the majority of frames we see and own (looking at the QC/Barcode stickers) seem to be in the 66 - 68 range, and the published spec is 64, that has left lots of us here at the forum wondering where all the under spec (59-63) frames are hiding. 4. Yes, Donnay measures the flex while the frame is unstrung. But that doesnt explain the disparity. Let's break it down. The frame rolls off the line unstrung. Donnay then measures the unstrung frame for mass, balance, and flex. Those digits are noted and the QC sticker is generated and placed in the throat near the palette. The fact that you string it and the flex changes, or TW strings it and the flex changes, does not change the fact that a P1 with a QC sticker reading flex at 64 or below is noticeably rare. 5. I've been trading emails with Donnay for several weeks, trying to purchase a set of six with matching flex ratings, and because I'm arm sensitive, hoping to obtain a set that are on the softer side of the batch average. In the course of the numerous conversations, I've pointed out all of the above. The last e-mail, just received today, indicated the topic has been discussed internally and they will be changing the website specs on the P1 to read 67 ra asap.

    By The Way How Cool Is That? I send an email to the general inbox asking about the matching service. I get a reply from the Director Of Operations, and he replies to my emails promptly and pleasantly over the course of many weeks. And my last name isn't Blake or Agassi, or Sands Or Courier.

    Apparently, Industry Peeps Actually Read This Thread - Got a link in the mail the other day to the new blog. The September 14 entry states : "it’s our unique solid-core technology that results in each Donnay tennis racquet frame snuffing out arm-harmful shock and vibration without compromising performance qualities – power, control, stability and maneuverability – that today’s players demand. One Donnay enthusiast refers to his racquet as “The Velvet Hammer.” that enthusiast is lil' ole' me, from a comment here several weeks ago.

    Also Noted in the blog, (and much more important news) Agassi is playing with Donnay, and paying for them out of his own pocket. http://blog.donnayusa.com/

    Mimo - One of my three frames is strung with Mikeler's string of choice, Genesis thunderblast. Plays really nice, very soft feel. Very good all around performer. Ive noticed that the rebound angle is much lower than the textured polys in my other frames. I really have to concentrate to get a good net clearance on my return game. With the textured polys, flight path seems higher and loopier, net clearance seems to happen all by itself, and the bottom just drops out on the other side near the base line. I think this high clearance, hi trjaectory is what people mean when they talk about poly being more lively than multifiber. I wish Genesis TB came in 17. I think that might be really special.

    Eightymarky - Yeah for sure, textured poly really works in this frame. I've played with both gauges of BHBR in other frames, and those are both really awesome. I'm currently favoring Dunlop Black Widow 18 for kick serves (big part of my game) and baseline bashing. When It's clear that my best chance of winning is dictating from the baseline, that's what I'm reaching for. I have BHB7 in my other P1, but it just feels a bit too "wild" somehow for me to find a good groove with it. It doesn't have that typical dead and unresponsive feel, that is common with poly, it feels very responsive, which is why I think it is so popular. I just have a bit of fear hitting long with it. The racquet strung with BHB7 frame mostly stays in the bag. I will reach for the BW18 or the Genesis TB 16 first.

    -Jack
     
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  46. royaldoyal

    royaldoyal New User

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    Hey Chicago Jack, You seem to be the Donnay insider for info. Can you tell me what new frames will be coming out in 2013?
     
  47. Xonemains

    Xonemains Semi-Pro

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    Suppawat or Kal el 34 might have an answer for this. i'm pretty sure Suppawat is still reading this thread.
     
  48. Xonemains

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    WOW!! So what we say on this forum does count for something hey!! you DA MAN Jack!!

    Donnay, if you are still reading, all i want in my P1s is for the paint not chip so easily in the next update!!

    Anybody know which xp dual Agassi actually got or is it a custom frame?
     
  49. TfReAk

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    You are definitly right, but that is also the case with the Radcial (it just swings easier). How does Adrenaline plays btw? Did you try a hybrid?
     
  50. rlau

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    Has anybody tried the P1 16x19 with Prince Beast XP strings yet? If so, how did you like it?
     

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