Don't count on Murray winning Wimbledon.

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  1. TheF1Bob

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    LMFAO no way in hell is that happening.

    Muzza is winning Wimbledon.

    Enjoy it. :D
     
  2. librarysteg

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    I still think my Murray dream right at the start of the tournament is a solid psychic prediction that Murray is winning this. For those that missed the revelation: he was (grudgingly) helping me move large bags of grass clippings. Translation: he has this tournament in the bag.
     
  3. Clarky21

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    Omg. :lol:
     
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    Injured? Fedex, I doubt that.

    No doubt Murray had a bad day in the office but he was running left and right like a gazelle for 5 sets, he was covering the court amazingly well.
     
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    If he does win, I'll be two for two in Grand Slam dream predictions. At the start of the French I dreamt my grandpa was helping Nadal with yard work, and I was upset that he wasn't helping Djokovic...he was "favoring" Nadal. I may have found my calling...tennis dream psychic :):grin:
     
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    Your dreams of Rafa on grass court proved fatal for him. Your dreams scare the hell out of me nowadays. :)
     
  7. ForLoveOfTheGame

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    Murray will win, and he will do it in 8 easy hours. Don't let the champion be rushed! For he will retaliate with even more dinks and drops! You will regret the day you became a tennis fan if you root against him. He will bore you to tears on a Sunday snoozeday.
     
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    Ha ha ha. TF1Bob you are one crazy mama.
    Have you had a knock on the head.
     
  9. Clarky21

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    That would it explain it if he has. :lol:
     
  10. Fedex

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    It's the only explanation.
     
  11. PrinceMoron

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    Same pace all day from F and V little variety. Like playing against a wall. Boring and ineffectual. And what the heck was that smash from V? And that drive volley yards out. Anything out of the ordinary and it all comes unstuck.

    Murray has the return percentages on his side and variety and strength. For me hitting like a metronome is pushing, not what Murray is doing.
     
  12. Legend of Borg

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    Are you the Clarky for the Murray camp?
     
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    I've no interest in bringing medieval attitudes into this, although perhaps I could have been clearer.

    You're one of those over-anxious fans who protects themselves from disappointment by pre-empting losses with gloom and doom forecasts. Just because something comes true doesn't mean your predictions are constructive or indeed have a sound basis. For example, you wanted everyone to know back in January that you feared a straight-sets trouncing for Muzzah in the AO final. In the match itself, Andy went up a set and should have gone up a break too in the second. You outright doubted Murray's ability to match Djokovic's play, which was unwarranted because the Scot lost the fitness battle whilst his strokes were more than matching Djokovic's in the first two hours.

    This isn't a private forum, so if you view yourself as a true supporter you should be sowing seeds of optimism instead of dwelling on every little sign of fragility you detect in Murray and choose to magnify to unneccessary proportions. If you think your negativity isn't sending out ripples to other fans, then why are people creating threads and quoting your mopey analysis?

    Murray's in his fifth straight Wimbledon semi-final. His campaign has been a lot more assured so far than that messy journey at the USO. He'll need an extra dose of good luck in the coming days, and there's no need to assume he won't luck out come Sunday.
     
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    your dreams are pretty cool.

    Mine are just bizarre. I had a dream that Wozniacki requested a wildcard into men's draw at Wimbledon and defeated Wawrinka in the first round.

    Then I woke up...
     
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    Wozniacki? Wildcard? Wimbledon? Wawrinka? Woke up? Sounds like you dreamed up variations on a theme of w's.
     
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    Ha! I love it. We should start a thread for all of us weirdos who dream about tennis to share.
     
  17. Fiji

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    Djokovic has the stars aligned to win Wimbledon this year.

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    .........that photo is upside down. :neutral:
     
  19. Mick

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    this morning I checked the scores and saw that Murray lost the first two sets, I thought for sure that was it for him. I came home and found that he had won the match :shock:
     
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    I had to leave at 2 sets all, so recorded the last set.

    As I was walking, the cheers from all the houses around the same time pretty much gave the result away :)

    It was a shame I couldn't enjoy it for myself, but it was nice to see/hear the living rooms full of people going mental.
     
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  22. PrinceMoron

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    Debentures are not for rich people.
    Debentures are not for life.
    They are not also given tickets they can sell, with also being the operative word.

    Why don't you put an image of your ticket up here with a note saying you are sharing the cost? The AELTC would be interested to learn you are breaking the terms of sale. If the only way you can afford finals tickets is by sharing the cost, the ticket holder should return them. If the ticket holder wants to invite someone, it should be free. The guest might pay for parking, or drinks, but not for the tickets. Sorry, that is against the ToS.

    Just in case you are wondering what a debenture ticket looks like - they have debenture printed on them and they come with a little tag that gets you into the debenture lounge. You get a really good view of the courts from there, so some people like to keep an eye on four matches rather than go and sit on centre and listen to screechapova.

    This year the tags are round and green.
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    Come on now, stop pulling a Clarky.

    Even when Dasco went 2 sets up, the result was never in doubt. There is no chance in hell that JJ will be able to take down Murray on centre court with the crowd against him. Murray will be in the final and if Delpo can pull off an upset against Djoker, he has the title in the bag. If not, I'd favor Djoker in the final, but you never know and it all depends on the form they both bring on that day.

    I don't recall Murray playing out of his mind on his way to the final last year. Tsonga more or less clowned a bit to self destruct in the semifinal. However, he was really impressive in the final and almost went up two sets to love over Federer.
     
  24. sbengte

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    Once Nadal was out, I felt it will be a Murray-Djoker final with Djoker taking it and I still stand by it.

    I was 100% sure of Murray being in the final, but not so sure of him winning the whole thing. His draw all but evaporated in 3 days, and I just have a feeling that Djoker will be more match tough , well prepared and more confident for the final. But you never know because Murray could play out of his mind in the final and how he played to get there becomes totally irrelevant.
     
  25. rafan

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    You have to invest £60,000 and then you have a seat for three years. I am not interested in where you or anyone else are sitting and I don't put personal details on the website. If you are a debenture holder you can sell tickets so get your facts right before you speak. Where on earth did you get this information from and how dare you assume we are sharing the cost of the ticket when I am finacing travel/meals taxis.
     
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  26. PrinceMoron

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    Yes you can sell tickets but you don't also get tickets to sell.
    The debenture costs vary according to year and court.
    How many debentures are held by individuals, rich or not?
     
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    Have a nice day!
     
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    Yes you can sell debenture tickets but you don't also get tickets to sell, with also being the operative word.
    The debenture costs vary according to year and court.
    How many debentures are held by individuals, rich or not? And the practicalities of the matter are that at least 2 pairs of tickets are required.


    You wrote we share the cost - of what exactly? If you mean the ticket, then that is breaking the ToS. Sharing the cost and sharing the costs suggest two very different things.

    I am not suggesting anything, just commenting on what you wrote. Clarity is everything. If you meant sharing the costs of travel etc, then it would have been a lot clearer if you had written costs rather than cost. Perhaps the difference is inconsequential to you, like the difference between a relative and a relation.

    Seats for life is however simply inaccurate.

    Get you facts right is simply rude, and quite ironic considering your opinion that debenture seats are for life.

    If you are so concerned about people assuming things, then do try and write clearly. And if you want people to read what you have written, try being a little politer.
     
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    Where exactly did you get hold of those tickets I am very interested
     
  31. PrinceMoron

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    Sorry, they are not for sale.

    When I invite someone to WO, I mean invite.
     
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    I didn't ask if they were for sale I just wondered how you obtained them
     
  33. PrinceMoron

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    Those particular tickets, 50% deductible expenses. Corporate entertaining. Driver there and back, just as well with all the booze. Only downside is having to wear a suit all day and having to be polite to people who don't really know one end of a racquet from the other.

    But I do give away stuff to assuage my guilt. I sent Forzamilan90 a programme and tickets for example. Spread a little happiness.

    The big deal is going to be Olympics in Brazil, Federer's swansong.
     
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    Many of whom probably only watch tennis for two weeks a year and think wimbledon is the only event in tennis.
     
  35. Feña14

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    You can guarentee it! Usually when I record matches at any other time of the year, I could go out of my way to ask people if they know the score, they would just look at me blankly :)

    Wimbledon comes around and the housewives get out the union jack t shirts and watch like they were born to do it, it's funny really.
     
  36. Fiji

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    He is not winning it and he has no stars aligned this time like at the USO 2012.

    He is phucked.
     
  37. rafan

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    Also Corporate entertaining may be responsible for all those empty seats we other souls wish we could have.
     
  38. PrinceMoron

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    Yes but you can queue at 4.00 for returns - £5-10, and the first ones will be debenture seats. You get a small printed seat allocation, not the original ticket.

    I have been up with debenture seats on a Monday and then come back and queued the next day, ending up sitting in the same row. It is all good, you just need to get there. To be honest I am just happy watching the practice courts.

    I got interviewed by Sky Sports last week - they were wandering around with an iPad showing people tv coverage of half empty show courts, trying to get people to sound off about corporate junkets. Well if people with debenture seats stayed until 9.20 nobody else would get a look in, so it seems bizarre to complain about not being able to get a ticket due to corporate hospitality.

    I guess Murray doesn't like debenture seats as they paid for the roof, and cost Murray the final.
     
  39. Fedex

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    IMO the only chance Murray has of winning Wimbledon is if Janowicz retires giving Murray time to get over the injury niggles which I think are seriously hampering his play, and Del Potro gives Djokovic a really hard match.

    Unfortunately, I think the complete opposite is going to occur.

    If Murray gets through he'll have nothing left for the final.

    I hope as much as anyone that I'm totally wrong.

    Sorry for being realistic here guys.
     
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    BTW last year from as early as about March 2012, and Batz is my witness, I predicted, wrongly but not far off, that Murray would win Wimbledon 2012 for those who claim I'm always being too pessimistic about Murray's chances.

    The general trends and signs this year have definitely not been good and getting worse, and I'm only being objective and realistic.

    I'm a fan of Murray's but not a blind one.
     
  41. sbengte

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    You have been spot on with your predictions so far. What's the prediction for Sunday ?
     
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    Still being a bit pessimistic. Who else is going to beat ND? You could be really pessimistic about every one else.
     
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    Could Clarky and Fedex be the same person? I for one would welcome an investigation. :-?
     
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    Nice Fail FedEx! Congratz....
     
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    I hope you're happy now. Witnessing history, not so bad, now, was it?

    :)
     
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    This. I thought the same thing when I saw this thread.

    Perfect anti jinx thread.

    Brilliantly executed.
     
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    Investigate till your heart's content, but you will be disappointed. We are not the same poster at all.
     
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    Well yes it was amazing because Murray played really well, in fact better than i had ever seen. TV shows it as being so slow but it was a tremendously fast match and much much more physical
     
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    Pretty good assessment I think, spoke to one of my students & he was watching from directly behind the player's box. He commented that the speed in the final was unbelievable & it is no wonder both were tired in that heat. On TV you just don't get any idea of the speed of shots played.
    You can prepare for it, but if it is cooler for 2, 3 weeks & then you get that, you still need to readjust.
    It was much cooler when Novak blew Berdych off in 3 sets & Murray was running 5 sets with that train wreck that is Fernando Verdasco!
    I mean this in a good way as I am delighted that the Spaniard has found some form again. Other players who impressed were Janowicz & Del Potro.
    They all play fast, it is just a matter of who can endure.
    There will be some even bigger hitting in New York!

    This time, Andy got the Big W win!
     

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