Doping doctor Eufemiano Fuentes declares tennis players also belonged this client gro

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  1. フェデラー

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    Saw all of these tweets from dustin brown today. Very interesting...

    Retweeted Franklin Stoker (@StokerSports):

    "Doping doctor Eufemiano Fuentes declares tennis players also belonged this client group. WADA opens hunt on all sports athletes."

    "More than 200 (Spanish) sports athletes involved in the Fuentes case. "We need to know who those athletes are." (WADA boss David Howman)"
     
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    I wonder if Nadal's knees are affected by this trial?
     
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    No, likely not because the trial is being held on clay! ;)
     
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    Fuentes made headline news on TV the other day. They showed bags and bags of blood in refrigerators, looked kind of disgusting. Yup, tennis players are among the list of athletes involved. I am amazed that what Fuentes did in Spain was not considered illegal there.
     
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    Does anyone know are we going to find out which tennis players were involved in the doping? Or whether Spain will keep it private to protect themselves.
     
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    good one!:)
     
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    Thanks, couldn't resist! :)
     
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    Who cares. "We need to know who those athletes are." I'm not interested in tearing athletes down in the media. It doesn't make me sleep better at night. This isn't about having a level playing field or ethics, because everyone is trying to get an edge in every other way, whether that's through diet, training, technology. And what about genetics? Nadal has natural physical advantages over a lot of players. Is that fair? No it's not. If I had to play Lebron James in one-on-one basketball, it wouldn't be a fair competition either.

    In my personal opinion, this doping and PED malarkey is all about stupid religious values and a stigma against drugs. Athletes at one time in history took strychnine in an attempt to enhance performance, and it has been argued that it would be HEALTHIER to complete the TDF while doping because it offsets some of the damage that prolonged, strenuous cycling does to your body. And PED's can affect your physiology in the long term, not just while you're using them, so don't we then have to know that an athlete is clean now, but also that they were always clean? It get's pretty screwy. Again, how much different is this really than the War on Drugs? It's the same BS in many ways, and it seriously needs to stop. It's 2013, and people still get life sentences for growing pot and lifetime bans for doping. It's sad.

    Just stop putting these athletes on a pedestal and watch yourself care less and less about what they do to their bodies.
     
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    Well I'm very Religeous, and I have no problem if they are doping, quit blaming everything on those who have faith, it's pathetic.

    I agree though that we cannot judge, accuse, or anything else unless it's proved. I do believe if one guy is doing it, all probably are, what a scandal that would be, all of those GS's stripped!

    Only one way to find out, that is us, the fans demanding drug tests, which we won't because most are probably afraid their hero may be doping.

    It seems whenever a super competitive athlete has the opportunity, looking for ANY EDGE, and there is no one testing, they will go for it, but that's just opinion and doesn't prove anything.

    What amazes me is that when Fed loses, Djoker gets accused! I'm the biggest Fed fan in the world, but I wouldn't put it past him.
     
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    you cannot possibly be the biggest Fed fan in the world and think your hero is doping. He has spoken out against doping and spoken for more rigid testing. If he's doping then he's not only a liar but a cheat and I would lose all respect for him. I could never support a player I thought was doping. Even if they're all doing it, I would say the same thing.
     
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    Well, you are assuming much.

    If he was doing it like everyone else, it wouldn't bother me. If however he has spoke out against it, yea, I would lose alot of respect for being a hypocrite.

    Why no drug tests? I know the answer, it would be a catastrophy for Tennis, guys stripped of titles, but they should still do it to silence everyone or find the truth, do you see how much accusation and speculation on these forums, surely we aren't the only one's.

    Look at Lance, his life is over, he's going to go into debt.
     
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    I totally agree with you about the drug tests. It seems they don't actually want to catch anyone who may be doping. If I was a top player and people were speculating about me and I was clean I would insist they test me every day during a tournament, including blood testing. Then I would parade the results out there for the world to see. So, why do we still hear players like Murray moaning about being woken at 6:00 a.m. for OOC tests (when it's up to them to tell WADA their whereabouts and time to come calling)? This makes no sense to me> the OOC testing is ridiculously lax.
     
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    Based on Lance Armstrong, it's safe to say that people who dope aren't beyond lying through their teeth. Look at how OUT THERE Lance was about doping, it's part of the reason people had a hard time believing he was a doper.

    Those who speak the loudest, could be the most innocent or the most guilty. You lose nothing by saying stuff, especially if you know the system is lax and the chance that your words will result in authorities taking action is minimal. Nothing short of REAL test evidence will help you tell who is who.

    I agree with you on the sentiment though that I would lose respect for any player who is doping and will admit to being naive/a fool/etc if they ARE.
     
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    Indeed, this was a good one.

    Kudos
     
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