Doubles players -- which is better: your FH or BH volley?

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Doubles players which is better your forehand or backhand volley?

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  2. Backhand

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  3. Both about equal

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  1. corbind

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    Doubles players: which is better your backhand or forehand volley and why? (Complete the poll if applicable)

    I play doubles most of the time and somehow I volley better backhand than forehand. I've thought about it quite a bit and it's due to a few things:

    • BH the ball is usually out in front of my body
    • BH volleys I usually watch the ball to the racquet
    • FH volleys often are parallel to my waist/hip so not in front as much
    • FH volleys I often don't watch the ball beginning about 4' in front of me to the stick
     
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  2. NTRPolice

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    My volleys are terrible, but I do "default" or "defer" to my backhand volley for balls close to the middle of my body. The one shot I dont like is the "too low for an overhead but too high to swing through" backhand volleys when im at the net. Those are really easy to send long, send into the net, or just send a floater to the baseline they can run down.

    Even with all of this, Id still say my backhand volley is better.
     
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  3. dcdoorknob

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    My forehand volley is better. I just have a better feel for what I'm doing with the raquet face with my FH volley. BH volley I'm fine usually if I have time to orient myself but on the reflex type volleys sometimes I just leave the raquetface to open (sail long or pop-up sitter) or too closed (net!).
     
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  4. J011yroger

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    Most players who put any sort of effort into learning how to volley have a better BH volley in my experience.

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  5. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I think:

    On your backhand side your body helps to lock in your elbow and helps to keep the ball out in front.

    On the forehand side you have to much freedom of movement and it is easy to get out of whack ... swinging, wristing ect ...
     
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  6. tennis tom

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    If there's a choice of volleying a ball that's coming into the body, the back-hand is the better choice due to the anatomy of the shoulder joint.
     
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  7. Cindysphinx

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    I think a lot of people think the FH volley is easier than it is. FH volley can be tricky because folks often use the wrong grip, often backswing, often hit spreadeagle to the net.

    1HBH volley has the advantage of almost requiring a shoulder turn.

    How anyone hits a consistent sliced 2HBH volley when deep in the court or the ball is lower than the net is beyond me.
     
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  8. floridatennisdude

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    Low volley: forehand

    Net height volley: backhand

    High volley: forehand

    Forehand wins 2 to 1
     
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  9. Rjtennis

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    Both are not great, but my forehand volley is a little better.
     
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  10. LeeD

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    I'm weird...
    Half volleys, forehand side, easier to get my body moving forwards.
    Low volleys, backhand side, easier to lift
    Medium volleys, forehand side for pinpoint placement, backhand for penetration and lots of backspin.
    High volleys, forehand side for most everyone.
     
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  11. blakesq

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    My forehand groundies are much stronger, and it translates to my forehand volleys being stronger too.
     
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  12. OrangePower

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    Same as you for net height and high. But my low volley is better on the BH side. So for me, BH wins 2 - 1.

    Interesting, since in terms of groundstrokes my FH is by far the stronger side.
     
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  13. BHiC

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    I don't know, I have certainly put plenty of effort into learning both volleys, and I play S&V at a high level about 50% of the time. My forehand volley is the more solid, consistent shot. I find I don't tend to swing quite as much on the forehand, and I can turn slightly easier.
     
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  14. LeeD

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    Interestingly, my 2hbh double conti volley is about the same as my 1hh conti volley. I played 3 years using FrewMcMillian's volley technique. Both require an aligned, closed stance, body moving forwards under/side spin shot. But 2hbh is stronger against hard hit pass attempts, while 1hbh has more flexibility for more different shots.
     
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  15. g4driver

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    forehand volley solid...backhand volley is better.

    But my two handed backhand overhead is now a legit weapon. :) angled off the court for winners as often a forehand overhead. The difference is no one sees it coming when they lob your backhand.
     
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  16. LeeD

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    Don't they see it after the first lob over your backhand side?
    While my forehand volley can be better, more consistent, and better placed than my backhand volleys, it really loses it's reliability when I"m not paying attention (reflex low volleys) and the other team crush's one knee high to me, and I dump it into the net going too flat....not reaching forwards to take it early.
     
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  17. g4driver

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    Nope, it takes them two or three times to learn. They think it is a fluke.

    How many 3.5 or 4.0 players do you see hit a 2HBH overhead for winners?
     
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  18. LeeD

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    I think they see, it the first time, but are testing you to see if you can replicate it over and over, then just hit another weak lob to your backhand side, wait until you're about to hit it, then run full speed to cover their duece corner, going DTL to pass you....
     
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    sorry, that last post needed a :) to start, and another :):) at the finish.
    Great you can pumell a 2hbh overhead.
     
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  20. g4driver

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    LeeD,

    if someone hits a weak lob to my backhand, the point is going to end. I will either miss the overhead wide to the Ad court or the ball is going over the side fence on the Ad court.

    I don't ever hit this shot to their deuce court, and not one 4.0 or 3.5 player as returned a weak lob hit to my backhand this year.

    The shot is so natural once you learn it. I will see if I can get you some video at a practice against my teammates.
     
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  21. LeeD

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    Well, I can say the same for my 1hbh backhand overhead.
    I usually short angle it.
    When the opponent starts to cheat that side, I hit it flat, deep, and DTL, for another clean winner, behind him.
    From service line positioning, it doesn't take much pace to hit a clean winner. Angle and lack of time for your opponent is your friend.
     
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  22. amorris525

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    I also use this shot with my 2h bh volley. Real fun shot. I rarely miss it, only into the net on rare occasion.
     
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  23. Fuji

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    My backhand volley hits absolutely spectacular shots for me it seems, while my forehand hits absolute garbage. I dump my forehand volley quite a bit more then I'd like to admit, but my backhand is able to really place it well.

    That being said, my "forehand" overhead is 10,000% better then my backhand overhead.

    -Fuji
     
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  24. floridatennisdude

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    I grew up on racquetball so my forehand is more natural to take low or off a half volley. Backhand just can't get the same power. Placement is not an issue, but having a couple extra mph on the FH is the difference for me.
     
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  25. chatt_town

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    I to volley better from the backhand side and thinking about it...I think it's probably for the exact same reasons. I'd like to know from one of the teaching pros why this seems to be the case....Timbo? Is there any truth to this or is this in our imagination? :)


     
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  26. Pickle9

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    actually the 2hbh overhead might be my best shot.
     
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    What is a 2HBH "overhead"?

    I'm pretty sure even if you have a 2HBH you still use a 1HBH for your "overhead". Swinging volley sure. Overhead? No. I dont think so.
     
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  28. Pickle9

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    If the ball is over my head to the bh side, then I swing at it like a little kid going after a piñata.
     
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  29. Fuji

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    I can't even picture this LOL!

    -Fuji
     
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  30. g4driver

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    Well I am sure you are pretty wrong in my case. ;)

    It ain't a swing volley that I am describing. It is a 2HBH overhead. Two hands hitting an overhead.

    A swing volley doesn't put the ball over the back fence, like a 2HBH overhead.

    And If you hit the backhand overhead with two hands it isn't a 1HBH overhead for sure. ;)
     
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  31. NTRPolice

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    Sounds great, in theory.

    If you're 6'9 and standing 1 ft. from the net. lol.

    If you didnt lose a lot of court coverage and it was as easy to bounce balls as you're making it sound, im pretty sure that more pros would be using that fabulous 2HBH overhead.

    "then I swing at it like a little kid going after a piñata." as described by Pickle9 sounds more like it.

    I'm not knocking the guy, but at least hes being honest.
     
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  32. Angle Queen

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    I have a doubles partner that does this...and very well. So well, in fact, we've given it a name: "The Hammer." She swings it like one might a sledgehammer, especially if you're alternating swing sides. Truthfully, though, she's a natural lefty playing righty...so it's really more of a two-handed OH.

    As to the question, posed by the OP...I'm probably more equal (equally bad?), with each wing have different "winning" capabilities. The BH volley seems to be more innate with an eh-go-for-it approach...where placement or power isn't necessarily the winning attribute. The "surprise" of it is what usually catches opponents flat-footed (remember we're talking womens 3.5 play here. :p ). The FH volley is more calculated and can generally be placed better with more power or touch.
     
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  33. lobman

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    I think JO11yroger is right on; in my case and based on what I have read, the BH volley is better for most players.
     
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  34. TomT

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    They both suck, in my case, bigtime. :) But I love to come to the net. Go figure. Need LOTS of work on volleying, as well as approaching shots. Maybe will never be good at it, but it's the sort of tennis that I find most interesting and like the most.

    I do, sincerely, think that a decent serve and volleyer will beat most anybody up to, and including, 4.0 level. Above that, the strokes are good enough that serve and volleying has to be done more sporadically, sparingly, imo, considering the power of the modern game.
     
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    What do you think causes the BH volley to become better?
     
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  36. LuckyR

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    My BH is better defensively and my FH is better offensively.
     
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  37. LeeD

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    In doubles, there is no defensive volley.
    Every volley must be hit well, placed well, do try to force a weak high return.
    Even a great lob backhand volley, once the foursome is set near the service line, is used as an offensive shot...to win the point.
     
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  38. LuckyR

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    Uummm... what do you call a volley that the opposing netman poaches towards your chest?
     
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  39. LeeD

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    Talking, reacting to the poach right at you, right?
    YOU, knowing that anything weak will be put away, needs to think beforehand, "don't volley right back". You have to know the hole you're going at, or the lob volley you're gonna try. The hole is a winner, between the two opponent's or down an alley. The lob volley is also a winner attempt, as anything less will be crushed down your throat.
    You know what you should be doing because that scenario has happenned to you many many times before. Your partner puts up a weak groundie or volley, you are in position to EAT the ball. So you preplan what you're gonna do when opponent poaches and hits within your racket's reach.
    Now if the poacher is strong, can volley with pace, just turn around and give up the point. But you have reactions. If the poach is a normal volley nto your chest, you have plenty of time to reflex lob volley into the open court, then move forwards to center of service box. That lob volley is purely offensive.
     
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  40. tennis tom

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    "Headhunting"?
     
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  41. LeeD

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    Usually a bad idea to poach and hit a volley into someone's chest. First of all, it's the easiest spot to defend, since your racket is right there ready with a backhand volley. Second, it can **** off the defender, who now decides to wake up, move back when his partner throws up weak stuff, and then HE poaches. Third, it's easier to hit a clean winner at his feet, but just out of his reach either up the middle or DTL.
    This scenario is prevelent in maybe 3-3.5 level tennis, where the poacher has no control, but you seldom see it in 4.0+ levels.
     
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    This sounds like a semantics issue, not a real issue. If you (or I) have a volley blasted at us and we anticipate it and cough up a lob volley winner, it is a winner. But in my vernacular, I would call that lob volley winner a "defensive" shot, that happens to win the point. You're calling it an "offensive" shot since... it's a winner.

    Regardless of what you call it, that type of shot is better, for me, as a BH. When I'm blasting a poach at the other netman's chest, my FH volley is better.
     
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  43. LeeD

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    Both of us have probably played enough doubles to anticipate what to do when the poacher crush's one down our feet. We already planned to lob, either volley or half, over into the CC longest court. Since it was preplanned, it's an offensive shot. If our lob goes short, or long, it's a poorly executed offensive shot.
    If we hit a framer into the netcord, and it dribbles overthe net for a winner, it's a mishit.
    Kinda like, poacher goes for one of your partner's wimp balls, what do you do? I automatically wait into he's about to hit his poach, then step over to the middle to cover the middle, usually with a lob attempt. Neither of us would just stand there.
     
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  44. corbind

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    A winner! LeeD saying there are no defensive volleys, well, that is shocking(ly wrong)! :shock:
     
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  45. J011yroger

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    I'd think you were the exception then. For most it is easier to take the racquet back too far on the FH.

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  46. J011yroger

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    Excessive arm/wrist movement on the FH side, the racquet just wobbles more.

    For sure when I miss a FH volley most of the time it is that the racquet wobbled and the face was pointing too up, or down.

    The rest of the time I miss is because I didn't get enough body into it, or general incompetence. However those two things affect FH and BH equally.

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  47. LeeD

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    I think my backhand volley is better than my overall forehand volleys because I practice it more. I practice it on half my groundstrokes, I practice it on half my returns of serves on that side.
    My forehand volley only get's practice when I'm at net position, and chances are I get low and half volleys
     
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