DQ rating

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  1. Snarf

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    Our state coordinator indicated that a self-rate who is DQ'd (for issues with their self-rate form, not via the three strike rule) is given the highest possible rating at their new level. A friend of mine was captaining a 4.5 team, and a grievance was successfully filed against one of his players who was then bumped to 5.5. According the the state coordinator, he doesn't start with a blank slate; rather, his rating entering the new league year is 5.49. Does anyone know whether this is correct? He is listed as a 5.5B even though he did not play in postseason and only played in two matches.
     
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  2. NumbersGuy

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    He'll get the B because he was a DQ, but I haven't heard that he would start at 5.49. Interesting, look forward to seeing if anyone else knows.
     
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  3. J_R_B

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    His actual DNTRP should still be a blank slate, but I can't verify that. If you haven't played a match, I don't think you can have a DNTRP.

    Manually forcing 5.49 would be interesting because it would make it much more difficult to tank and get your rating back down. Basically, you would just get everyone you tanked against promoted.
     
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  4. struggle

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    our 4.5 teams are allowed a 5.0 player i believe. (i only play 4.0 so far)

    if that's the case there, he screwed the pooch.
     
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  5. J_R_B

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    40 & Over 4.5 is allowed 2 5.0s. 18 & Over 5.0 is allowed 2 5.5s.
     
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  6. schmke

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    I too had not heard of this defaulting to the highest possible rating. Not that it isn't true, but it wouldn't be consistent with the way other situations are handled and would seem to introduce error and oddities in the ratings if the player isn't indeed playing at the level they get defaulted to. Like J_R_B says, it could skew the ratings for anyone this player plays.
     
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  7. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I remember an instance where a player was DQ'd at one level, played up and played poorly and then at year end was year end rated back down at the level he was DQ'd from.

    Assuming I am remembering correctly that would seem to me to contradict this scenario.

    I am pretty sure this happened around here within the last 5 years, but the dudes name escapes me right now. If I think of it, I will shoot it schmke so he can work his magic.
     
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  8. Snarf

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    Schmke, if this guy plays 5.0+, I'll let you know who he is and we'll see if we get an answer when you run his numbers.
     
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    Btw, I talked to a sectional employee (who is involved in junior tennis and doesn't have much more insight on ratings than his experience in league tennis) suggested that the USTA may be so committed to not having a player they dq'd for lying come down the next year that they were willing to deal with any resulting ripples in the system.
     
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  10. schmke

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    Sounds good.
     
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