Dunlop 200g Club

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  1. no skillz

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    I dont see alot of people here using the 200g 95.

    If you use it and love it, get in here.

    If you used it and dont love it, get in here.
     
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  2. fuzz nation

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    One of the first sticks I tried when I decided to stray from my Prostaff 6.1 Classics and it gave me trouble at first. Thought I needed a lighter frame, which it is, but it didn't work until I looked at the feedback on the TW site and found that they need loose strings to be lively. Yahoo! Easy to land groundstrokes and it served very well with pace and spin, but I play a lot of doubles and never volleyed confidently with it.

    I've actually gone in the heavier direction and my latest sampling is the LM Prestige mid, but I didn't understand the value of a low powered flexible frame-at least in comparison to my racquets-before I tried on the HM 200g. I'm honestly surprised that this frame wasn't much more popular because it plays light and comfortable for a 12 oz. racquet.
     
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  3. louis netman

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    still have a few MW 95" and 100".... nice, low-powered sticks with a great paint scheme...the 95 is too much work for me nowadays. I'm planning on chopping the 100s down to 27"...
     
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  4. kreative

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    very nice frame w/ good feel. played w/ it until i got power-hungry and switched to the pure drive. find myself missing it sometimes thou.
     
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  5. mileslong

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    im a long time MW200G user and also have a HM200G. i have been playing the redondos lately but hyperextended my elbow about a month ago. suring my recovery coming back i needed a lighter frame and have been hitting with my old HM and im actually playing pretty well with it. for the money you cant buy a better stick imo...
     
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  6. nickb

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    I have played with the HM 200G and M-Fil 200 and they are great racquets. The only problem is the pattern was just too dense for me and i lost a serious amount of spin. The control is awsome though and for the money are one of the best racquets around. BTW i love the paintjobs on the m-fils and the MW.

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    3 x PS 6.0 85 (Prince SGWD 17 @ 61lbs)
     
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  7. Bent

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    I own 3 MW 95's and have played with them for years.

    The last year I have mostly played with 3 POG mid's.

    But sometimes I switch back to the MW's and they are still very nice.
     
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  8. jaykay

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    Couldn't agree more...

    Hey no_skillz, great post, and at an opportune time too. After soliciting inputs from several posters here, I went ahead and bought me an HM200G strung with KLIP Legend (there is a $6 credit on TW for buying a racquet from them and getting it strung with KLIP by them) and it plays like a dream.

    The control is EXCEPTIONAL. Also, for those of you 3.5s-4.0s 'non-snobs' who have been thinking of moving to the much-cliched 'player's racquet' category but have been apprehensive of wielding a 12oz PS/POG/Prestige etc, look no further --- the 200G 95 swings real easy and is surprisingly maneuverable for such a stable stick.

    - 'Plough-through' (dammit - the more time I spend on TW, the more I succumb to the usage of such cliched terms) is fantastic - I can rip winners on hard-hit shots from my opponent and they are left standing, dumbfoundedly watching my strokes in admiration.
    - My serves have laser-like accuracy now and I can hit flat/slice/kick into any corner of the service box.
    - My groundies also are hit with superb precision... totally love it.
    - My BH slice is heavy and has depth.
    - Volley putaways are hit with authority.

    The only 2 downsides that I see on this frame are -
    - mediocre spin (not that much of a downside since my game doesn't hinge on much topspin anyways), and
    - my service returns are falling short (which requires me to bring about some change in technique)

    Overall, I am extremely happy with this frame thus far. Most importantly, at $80, you SIMPLY CANNOT GO WRONG!

    Put my name right on top in the Dunlop 200G Club. I am very much part of this 200G appreciation thread...
     
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  9. bertrevert

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    Wow good to hear some love for this one...

    Picked up a MW200g being retrung and was shocked and couldn't remember how heavy it was. What were the specs? 360g and 16x20 yeah?

    Did you see Thomas Martinez advising of the release schedule for the forthcoming model here:
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=1066095&postcount=134

    That 16x19 model would add spin potential, and you could add lead to bring it up. But there is no release date, darn.
     
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  10. jaykay

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    Just my preference...

    I somehow prefer the 18x20 over the 16x19. The 18x20 just 'feels' better and provides better precision, IMO.

    200G 95 rocks (for now!).
     
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  11. bm3

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    I demoed it side by side with an M-Fil 300. The only reason I did not buy it was that I liked the M-Fil better. I liked the open pattern and it just felt more comfortable to swing. Nevertheless, the 200G is an extremely nice racquet.
     
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  12. anirut

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    Well, well, though I love my Redondo, can I join the Dunlop 200G club?

    The reason I had to go with the Redondo is because there's no 90 sq. head for the Dunlop 200 series. I just love that Dunlop feel and the "plough-through" the racket gives.

    If only Dunlop could come up again with a 90 sq. head 200 series I'd switch in a heart beat.
     
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  13. jaykay

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    Anirut - An endorsement for the 200G from a knowledgeable person such as yourself automatically elevates you to the Chairman Emeritus status of the 200G Club. Welcome to the gang! :)

    Cheers.
     
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  14. anirut

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    Knowledgeable? Me? Nah ... I'm not that knowledgeable to be elevated to the status. No way. And I have only played the Revelation Tour 90, but just love it!

    BTW, just learnt about the Aerogel 100 ... 90 sq. head. WOW!

    OK, now that this thread is about 200G club. Let's start posting pictures of 200G series that we have.

    Here's mine ... though not exactly the 200, but ... so what!


    [​IMG]
     
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  15. jaykay

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    Nice pics, Anirut. I must confess that I still haven't figured out how to post pics in this forum (I know it has been posted someplace, just too lazy to search...).
     
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  16. anirut

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    Just subscribe with photobucket . com for free. Upload your pics and copy the [​IMG] path (shown below the uploaded pic) and paste it in your post in tt.

    It's simple as that.

    BTW, try to keep the pics small before uploading, at least to pity the slower-connection users. I find that 640x480 is the appropriate max. I normally keep the size around 400x300.
     
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  17. joe

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    My first "real" raquet was the Max200G back in '85. Then the POG mid for about 15 yrs and then the HM200G about 2 years back. Can't beat the control of that 18x20 stick. Arm problems forced me off it and now holding a demo PK Redondo mid and so far I'm happy. Hate to leave the 200Gs but might have to.
     
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  18. tennisphotog

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    I've have had a totally short attention span for racquets for the past few years, searching for one that feels perfect in all aspects As we all know that "holy grail" does not really exist, but the hot-melt 200g is really, really close IMO. I have been very happy with this stick.
     
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  19. splitstep

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    You wouldn't be the first to leave a Dunlop 200G for a Redondo. There's quite a community of ex-200G users who've gone over.

    After 5 months of play, the only downside for me on the Redondo mid-plus has been the reflex volleys. After I leaded up the racket to get the balance I like, I haven't been getting the racket head around quite as quickly. I suppose I can't expect to get get the 6yrs of tuning I had with my MW95s in 5 months, but it is one of the very few downsides. Redondo pluses abound and have been detailed in many other entries here.
     
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  20. Pushmaster

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    Joe, can you compare the HM 200G to the PK Red mid?
     
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  21. The Dampener

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    Stringin' up the 200G.

    Hi Club 200G,

    I've got a 200G HM I pull out from time to time because I simply love the way it feels when I swing it. However, due to arm problems, I've been spending my on-court time with a much more powerful ProKennex 5G. And I've gotten used to that extra power now.

    So I'm toying with the idea of dropping my string tension to nudge to power up a bit on the 200G. Have any of you had success doing that? Or am I asking for a world of trouble by trying to make a low-powered racquet more powerful?

    Thanks.
    T-Damp
     
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  22. Nextman916

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    Not at all, lots of people do this to try to tweak the power of their racquet by dropping/raising string tension. But just dont expect any miracles, a low-powered racquet will still be a low-powered racquet.
     
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  23. basil J

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    I was a devoted user of the 200GMW for years. When I first started playing tennis back in the late 90's my first racquet was a 200G revelation. I used that for a year and then moved to the 200GMW which I stayed devoted to for about 5 years. My bag got stolen and the only frames I could find were the 200GHM. Not the same stick so I moved on to a bunch of different frames over a 2 year period (Slaz x-1, Ncode 6.1, prince 03tourMP) until I discovered the Redondo MP. The 200GMW was a classic. Till this day, probably the best feeling racquet in hand. The weight just feels right. Great serving stick, and I never had a problem generating spin as long as I had 17 gauge strings on it. The paint job is also my all time favorite on a racquet. I recently had the opportunity to hit with one and the Redondo has a much bigger sweetspot. I truly believe that because the 200G was such a demanding stick, my game improved very quickly from a novice to a solid intermediate because you really need good foot work and mechanics to use it properly.
     
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  24. snoopy

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    Does anyone know how the 200g plays verses a Volkl T10 Gen2? The specs for these 2 are similar.
     
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  25. joe

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    Pushmaster, for starters, I like a frame that can best be described in one word as “crisp”. The HM200G had it. The Pro Kennex Redondo mid has more. Actual weights/balance points measured by me for the two frames are: static strung weight, 200g: 349grams/12.3 ounces (livewire 17 & one Wilson pro overgrip), Pk red: 352 grams/12.4 ounces (NXT 16 & two Wilson pro overgrips). Balance of HM200g is more head heavy than pk red (true to advertised specs).
    200g not unwieldy but you’ll notice a mild head heaviness on the swing compared to the pk red.
    Generally, I note three significant differences: 1) the 3 extra grams on the pk red wouldn’t seem like much but you can tell there’s more out there at the end of your arm when swinging. In a good way though. It’s headlight character lends to the feeling of complete control over the whole frame when swinging out on groundies and at the net.
    2) On impact the pk red has a comforting, stable, heftiness to it and dwell time seems longer than with the 200g. I was hitting deeper and with more confidence with the pk red and was getting more spin too (hence the controlled depth?) . They’re both considered low power frames but I always had to work harder with the 200G to get depth and yet had to be careful not to hit long maybe because of spin issues. I always had to exagerate the low to high motion to get spin on short, put-away shots with the 200G. I found no difference in lateral control between the two racquets. Both are awesome. 3)lastly, and most importantly for me because of recent arm problems, when striking the ball high in the stringbed (on those very few occasions, right?) the pk red is very forgiving but the 200g lets you know you’ve missed! Simply, the pk red has more sweet spot than the 200G.
    The first hit with the Redondo reminded me of the first hit with my old POG mid 18 years ago. I’ve demoed many frames in the last 3-4 years and this is the first racquet that had that particular sweetness. When I first demoed the HM200G 2-½ years ago I liked it, but I came around to it slowly. It didn’t have that particular magic on the very first strike of the ball like the Redondo did. There were times it was a struggle to convince myself the 200G was a good fit for me and life's too short to play like that. The HM200G is a fine racquet but if you’re considering an 18x20 frame then the Redondo is definitely worth a look too.
    Hope this report, however biased it is, helps,
    Joe
     
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  26. The Dampener

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    Leaded or unleaded?

    Any of you 200G HM users slap a little lead on your frame? If so, where, and how much?

    I'm thinking about tinkering with mine. I'd like to see how it plays with more of a head-light balance, say, 8-10 points versus the stock 5 points.

    But I'm curious to learn about the modifications some of you have had success with.

    Thanks.

    John
     
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  27. jaykay

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    Wow - this thread is still alive...?!? Cool...

    I must say this - I haven't played with the MW200G before. In some ways, it is a good thing, since my eval of the HM200G doesn't get clouded by prior judgement. Still love the HM200G...
     
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  28. Pushmaster

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    Thanks Joe for the great comparison. The Red mid sounds like my kind of stick. I'm going to buy one soon as TW gets them back in stock.
     
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  29. Pushmaster

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    Like you say, it's a good thing not having played the MW 200G, your better off not knowing what your missing. If your happy with the HM, that's all that counts.
     
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  30. Dunlopkid

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    Can I be part of this club even though I play the m-fil?
     
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  31. drakulie

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    yeah me too. Although I don't play with a 200, I periodically play against the guy who started this thread.

    By the way, his game has vastly improved since switching to the 200.
     
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  32. anirut

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    At least you play the m-Fil ... it says 200 on it right?

    I only have the Rev Tour 90. See pic on first page. At least it's the "same class" of the 200 range.
     
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  33. artworks

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    I recently got 2x 200G Muscle Weave 95 to go along with my 200GHM. :-D
     
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  34. no skillz

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    I am glad that there are so many people who play with this great great racquet. To tell the truth I didnt expect a turn out as big as this.

    I have since bought my second 200g and I am in love. I have strung both racquets with Goosen Proform Tuff at 57lbs and added some lead to make the racquet 12.5oz.

    The tension reduction has made the racquet more lively, more power, and spin. More of everything that is good.

    I hope to see the club keep growing, and lets spread the love for this wonderful racquet. :)
     
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  35. pham4313

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    own three M-fill 200s....just loving it...the racket is so solid at net...also loving the flat groundstrokes and pinpoint serves:p
     
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  36. pham4313

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    anyone gives a comparative review of 200 G, HM, M-fil, revelation 95 ? I thought i saw it in some other thread before but hate to dig it out. Any expectations for the aerogel 200?
     
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  37. Richie Rich

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    i can get new mfil 200 cheap so i may pick one up. i demoed one earlier this summer and it was ok but string choice and tension may have had something to do with it.
     
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  38. no skillz

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    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/playtests/NOBAD1.html
    There you go,pal. Thanks to NBMJ for the review!!1
     
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  39. pham4313

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    Hey Rich, did you have James Blake's dunlop at some point? If you get the M-fil 200, could you compare the two? I think either the 200G or 200M-fil has similar traits to Blake's stick...after all, it is all dunlop family
     
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  40. Richie Rich

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    still have JB stick. its exactly the same, mold wise, as the tf 335. if i get a mfil 200 i'll compare them too.
     
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  41. The Dampener

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    No Skillz, how much/where did you lead up your 200?

    Thanks.

    J
     
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  42. Breaker

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    I switched over from the dreaded PD to the 200g about two years ago, great racquet with great control. Nice thread no skillz love how many people have stuck with this racquet!
     
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  43. no skillz

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    I added 8, 4 inch long, strips to the 3 and 9 position. I guess each strip is .5 of a gram. So I added 4 grams to the racquet head. The balance of the racquet is probably 1-3 points head light.

    I had to add alittle more to the second racquet to match the weight and balance point.

    The combination of added lead and reduced tension and my most favorite strings resulted in a heavy flat spin. More pop, more spin, and more pace were added to my game. I was able to swing the racquet as hard as I wanted to and still make the ball in the court.
     
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  44. The Dampener

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    Lowering tensions.

    I keep dropping my string tension in search of a little more feel and a little more spin.

    I was just wondering what string tension you 200Gers out there are using. If you don't mind, throw a number my way.

    Thanks.

    Dampest
     
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  45. no skillz

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    I am at 57lbs. Alot more spin and power.
    I think the strings I use help alot with the spin.
     
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  46. pham4313

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    I strung my Mfil at 56 lbs and its just about right. But lately in the cold i hit short most of the time. So i strung another one at 50-52 hybrid and this one is a beast. Plenty of power and increase in spin. It just pockets the ball better
     
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  47. VGP

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    Been with the Dunlop HM 200g for over a year....

    I've modded mine thus:

    Replaced the Hydromax Tour grip with leather.
    0.5 ounces of lead fishing weights under the butt cap.
    0.45 ounces of lead tape strips from 2-3, 10-9 o'clock.
    Single black overgrip.
    Sampras "O" dampener.

    Strings either Prince Original Synthetic Gut, 16 gauge or a BDE Perf 16 natural gut/POSG 16 hybrid. Strung at 60 lbs.

    Weight and balance: 13.6 oz., 8 pts headlight.
     
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  48. SmakIt

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    I have been using the mfil 200 for a while which is certainly a great racquet, but I always wondered what it would be like with a smaller head and if it was a bit easier to swing. I recently found a HM100G and the mfil was almost instantly dropped. At first I thought the the feeling of the HM was no good, but I realised after a while that it gave more precise feedback. With the mfil it is sometimes difficult to tell exactly where you are hitting the ball and therefore it is difficult to adjust. The HM is way more honest. A little bit of lead at 9 & 3 and I cannot believe how good the HM is. I just wish I could find more of this 90" series. Makes the mfil feel too powerful (which i realise it is). I believe that if dunlop left off the heavy gloss PJ on the mfil and it lost 10grams in the head, it would be spot on. You can see the HM does not have that kind of puppy fat.

    Although I now am starting to feel that having the high swingweight mfil is a real benefit in training. Switching to a lower swingweight after bashing around with the mfil so long makes it so so easy to bash the hell out of ball with the HM with minimal mistakes.
     
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  49. badmice2

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    I have 2x 200G HM and 2x 200G MW...at one point I had a 200 MFIL, but didnt like it...felt a bit stiff compared to the other 2. Ideally, here's my setup for all of my sticks...

    When strung with -
    Technifibre X1 Biphase (full set) - 63 lbs
    Klip Excellerator (full set) - 63 lbs
    X1 / PSGD Hybrid - 61-62 lbs-
    BB ALU Rough / X1 - 60-61 lbs (at times i find ALU Rough plays softer than BB ALU Power)

    Added -
    Lead tape under butt cap (5 grams)
    Wilson Leather grip
     
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  50. DrewRafter8

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    I have 3 MW 200G's that I have recently switched from. I was a longtime MW user but have found myself a Fischer Fan. I probably would have never switched, but my MW's are too valuable to me to play with everyday. I've tried all of the recent 200 updates and quite frankly hated them. I've found my Fischer MSpeed to have a "buttery" (can I even use that word here?) feel like my MW's have. But then again, feel is subjective.
     
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