Dunlop Bio 300 vs Dunlop Bio 500T

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  1. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    I would vote for the 500 Tour, they will be a sweet, stable version of what you have now without losing any of the power to which you have become accustomed.
     
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  2. robbo1970

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    I'm going to see if I can borrow one of my playing partners 500T to have a few swings with.

    Then I'll know if its the right weight or with a I need a few grams lighter, which would push me towards the 500.
     
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    A what......?

    EDIT: Oh, I see, you probably meant "Neanderthal"?
     
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    Like I said, I don't care about spelling, or diction, and flunked English6 in junior high. Who cares? As long as you get the point across?
     
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  5. robbo1970

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    I get you Lee, if you start and end a word with the correct letters you can muddle up the rest and its still understandable.

    Why is choosing a racquet so confusing for a novice like me with no way of demoing...I'm looking at swingweights now and see that the 300 swings lighter than the 500 but is some 15g heavier in static weight....damn theres too much choice out there.
     
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  6. LeeD

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    Choices, just like cars.
    12 companies, 7 + models in each, makes for lots of choices.
    None are better than any other.
    Most smart players know it comes down to themselves, and what THEY can do, rather than what the racket can give them.
    If you can play tennis as well as RodLaver, when he was using his DunlopMaxPlyFort, you'd be 3 levels better than you are now.
     
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  7. robbo1970

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    I must admit I do regularly play and beat Rod Lavers God son lol, but thats not quite the same lol>

    I think (as is the case with me here) its easy to get quite baffled by the choice and differences and bearing in mind I am just an intermediate, I'm not sure I could tell the difference between some of these racquets if I was handed a bunch of blacked out frames.

    One thing Ive noticed is that a lot of the more power orientated frames have these tapered beams so they are wider around the hoop than they are down by the handle. Does that not make them weaker down near the handle? Sorry if thats a daft question.
     
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  8. LeeD

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    Power is power, not directly affected by size or shape, but is affected somewhat by several different factors.
    500T's have moderate swingweights, around 322. 500's are much lighter and easier to swing, around 315's.
    200's are around 330.
    Since I already have 3 200's, I was looking for lighter in SW, not necessarily in overall weight.
     
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  9. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    it's not a daft question if you don't know the answer, is it?

    in reality, unless your name is Marcos and you have anger managment issues, it is pretty hard to break a frame these days in normal use.

    (yes, of course, people here break strings/frames in an hour with their 130 mph serves and 'modern forehands', but in the real world modern frames are very, very tough!)
     
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  10. LeeD

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    Big fat heads to increase the stiffness there.
    Throats can have layering with deeper box section than the head.
     
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    Oh I see, thanks guys.

    So in a way, where the throat can be constructed with many layers it can actually be quite narrow and still very strong, and the widening beam around the head acts to balance out the stiffness.
     
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    I managed to have a swing with a few racquets the guy who runs my local courts has. He is also a coach.

    Whilst I don't blast the ball, he seemed to think I generated sufficient power but said I would benefit from something that helps with control. He said my power was good enough, but would be really effective if I tried placing my shots in the corners rather than trying to out hit my opponent. He did also say I should use a lighter racquet as I struggled with manouvrability on some strokes, particularly with my backhand.

    It was well worth trying a few racquets out. He only had older models for me to have a go with, but the basics were there in terms of different weight racquets and different head sizes. I think for a control racquet I would want to go smaller than 98.
     
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  13. robbo1970

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    Lee, do you keep your 500 in stock form?
     
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    Since I have 3 of them, one has 12 grams of lead at 10-2, the other two stock. I favor the lighter ones for all play, but often hit with stronger players using the leaded stick.
    But remember, once the points start, I don't play too many shots from the baseline, rather choosing to chip and charge to service line position where my volleys have a better chance of winning points than my groundies.
    Some players say they like a heavier racket for volleys. I don't agree, as a lighter stick always get's more balls back, and volleying form will get enough pace and depth to make it work. Also, when I play against better players, I don't expect to win. I need to take care of my own game by beating lesser players and most of my peers (4.0).
     
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    Thanks Lee.

    I think I too would favour staying light for all round play. I dont try and out hit my opponents, I prefer to construct points and volley and having tried heavier 'volleying' rackets, I find I have tonnes more racket mobility with a lighter frame and equal power at punching the ball away. The mobility with the lighter racket also helps me control where I put the ball with a lot less effort.

    I was considering adding a leather grip but not sure I'll bother, leather is good for feel but can be a bit hard on the hand sometimes.
     
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  16. hoodjem

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    That's a good plan.

    Bio 500 is 10.3 ounces.
    Bio 500 T is 11 ounces.

    IMO, you will not improve with a 10.3 ounce racquet. 11 ounces is still fairly light.
     
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  17. LeeD

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    It's more than just weight.
    T has a SW of around 325, almost something some pros would use against PRO level serves and groundies.
    500 has a SW of around 315, enough to hit with most players short of 5.5 strong hitting singles players.
    Just who do you hit with?
     
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  18. prjacobs

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    This year, dunlop raised the swingweight of the 500 by 11 and lowered the 500 tour by 12. The bio 500 has a swingweight of 311 and the bio 500 tour now has a swingweight of 313, so they're virtually the same.

    The 4D 500 tour @ 11.3 ounces was my main stick for two years and I played so well with it. The stiffness hurt my shoulder but the bio version is more flexible.
    As is always said on the forum... Demo. Good luck!
     
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  19. robbo1970

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    I play against players at different levels with a variety of styles, but what I really want to do is hone my style to make me their problem, if you get my drift.

    I had a go with the 500T the other day. The weight was fine but I found I was overhitting my shots a bit. It seems that with a racket of this weight I am generating enough power myself so maybe I need to think about a lower powered version, maybe the 300.
     
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