Dunlop Biomimetic line

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  2. GameSetMatch

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    Intriguing.....

    biomimetics

    Biomimetic refers to human-made processes, substances, devices, or systems that imitate nature. The art and science of designing and building biomimetic apparatus is called biomimetics, and is of special interest to researchers in nanotechnology, robotics, artificial intelligence (AI), the medical industry, and the military.

    Bit of a stupid name to call a line of racquets though. Maybe its just an experimental prototype or mock up?
     
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    The 4D line just came out in 2009...seems like a replacement line would come in 2012. I thought the product cycle was 3 years...although some companies, like Head, are every 2 years.

    Thanks for the video. Seems legitimate.
     
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    That seems more like the confirmation of the rumour. Biomimesis is a little like Youtek, it seems to suggest the racquet and body relationship is more intricate than the traditional concept of an object/racquet as a tool that the subject/ body manipulates in time/space. Tennis is getting philosophical.



     
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    They seem confused about the terminology themselves.
    The new racquet is referred to as BIOMOMEMTIC:

    Nikolay spielt den neuen BIOMOMEMTIC 200 Plus.

    Seems appropriate, first they create a racquet, then they think up what label to put on it. Found something promissing and flashy -- Biomimetic, Biomomentic. Not sure of the exact spelling, but who cares...

    The interesting part will come later. I bet there will be commercials explaining how Dunlop emmersed themselved in biomimetics and emerged with a wonder constructed on the laws of quantum physics and human neurobiology... Mark my words ...
     
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    Well the 300 Tour paintjob is sharp
     
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    Would 4D go on sale when this comes out?
     
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    According to Dunlop and other tennis news sources, Verdasco is to be testing out their new technology for 2011, which obviously, Biomimetic it is.

    From the images (thanks for sharing though), there are hints to the technologies combined to the name of Biomimetic, which Dunlop claims that the engineering is inspired by the nature, speaking for the name of the technology itself.

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    It also got what they called "Aeroskin". What's that? A mystery for now....

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    ...and if you look carefully, they used a new HM5 Carbon. The logo tells me that they are up to some kind of pentagonal bonded carbon or something similar.

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    Anyway just a whole set of new technologies (so quickly?) to replace the Aerogel and Aerogel 4D. Personally, seems great. I like it, at least the PJ is sharp.
     
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    Am I counting 16 mains correctly? Should be awesome if the frame is anything like the 4D Tour. Definately will get a demo.
     
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    As far as I know, carbon really likes to form cubic shapes (diamond) or hexagonal shapes (graphite) and doesn't generally do pentagonal bonding, but there are some really cool things involving a form called fullerines. Here, carbon forms into spheroid, ellipsoid, and tube shapes (carbon nanotubes), some of which have pentagonally-bonded carbon.

    I think the most promising of these from a racquet manufacturer's point of view is the fairly recent field of "nanobuds" (see Wikipedia here). Here, fullerine balls are bonded to a carbon nanotube. This gives the nanotube many interesting properties, most of which are frankly beyond my level of understanding (I haven't studied chemistry in years), but one I do understand is that the balls can provide a molecular anchor for the nanotube, changing its mechanical properties (say, how it reacts when present in a tennis racquet frame).

    Of course, this all may be a bit exotic for a mainstream racquet manufacturer, and it's possible that they're referring to something quite a bit more pedestrian (5 layers, all aligned differently? a carbon form of aerogel?), but Dunlop has already shown that it's willing to use (if not at least pay lip service to) fairly exotic materials (see aerogel), so who knows? Could be interesting.
     
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    ^^^ Very interesting, stufflebean.

    I'm a big fan of Dunlop's AG and 4D racquets. I consider them some of the best-performing frames on the market. I sure hope that continues with this next generation of sticks, especially in their 100 and 200 series, with their emphasis on touch, feel and control.
     
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    There's obviously a lot of high tech...

    ...cachet going on with the current or near term offerings of the major manufacturers. Head has Youtek, among other things, Wilson has BLX, and now Dunlop has a riff on what sounds like nanotechnology. Is this stuff real? I think it's part real, part marketing hype. I just switched to the Head Speed Lite, and I can swear I can feel the D30 technology...but maybe that's just successful marketing on Head's part.

    At least some of this has a real, profound effect, and it's interesting that some of the more exotic advances in today's science are showing up in, if you will, relatively low-cost consumer items like skis and tennis rackets. Some interesting discussions in this thread re what Dunlop's new technology consists of, I'd like to hear next what advantages it's supposed to give the consumer...
     
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    The 4d line obviously didn't sell well.
     
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    ****. I just bought my 4th and 5th 4D100s, waiting for them to be delivered, am I going to replace all of them when the new line comes out?:lol:

    The pj looks really cool
     
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    I still use m-fils - who cares.
     
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    This racket looks like it just came out of a video game... to be more precise, I just beat Crysis last week and the Aeroskins looks just like the armor drawn in the game LOL

    What does that tell us? Not much I guess. No matter how fancy a racket or technology looks, there is a certain manufacturing cost that it cannot exceed. Sadly in these days and time, it means cheap crap going into prestigious (no pun intended) racket lines.

    Let's just hope Dunlop stay on the quality track.
     
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  21. AbsolutTennis

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    18X20... Exactly like the 300 4D Tour. If you check http://img832.imageshack.us/f/foto0059.jpg/ you´ll see it´s got an 18X20 pattern, exact SAME WEIGHT as the 300 Tour, and 1 sq. in. smaller in head size (pure marketing). THE SPECS ARE ALL WRITTEN ON THE STICK. It seeems the balance point has been altered A LITTLE BIT. Trust me, it won´t make any difference... Same racquet, new PJ... Hopefully the other models will bring some new excitement to the already dull existing lines... No wonder why the 4D didn´t sell...
     
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    Are you serious? The 4d line is incredible to hit with if you have the strokes for it. I am glad they are not changing it up too much to be quite honest. You can buy an older version from 5 years back and it will have a smilar enough feel to be able to be swapped with a newer model.

    I like that. It hits like butter and is a very well respected racquet. Why change it up?
     
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    That is a sick looking frame.
     
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    ^^^

    Can't wait to see the 200.
     
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    hope they make another 200 Tour
     
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    it looks great! but i hope they up the weight of the 300.

    can't wait to see the 100
     
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    You probably missed the fact I'm talking specifically about the 300. VERY LIGHT racquet. 18X20. The ball just doesn't go. IF you try it out you’ll agree with me. Horrible stick. The –TOUR-name must be one of the biggest scams ever. However, if we talk about the 200 (which seems to be the racquet you play with), I would have to agree with you. Great racquet!
     
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    Just another marketing gimmick...
     
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    I've just seen some of the marketing materials and prints for the new line of racquets.

    Definitely called Biomimetic (which is a silly name IMO).

    They also have the following marketing blurb:-

    HM Carbon - presumably high modulus carbon

    AeroSkin - "unique surface technology inspired by shark's skin that smoothes airflow over the racket. This reduces aerodynamic drag by up to 25% for increased racket speed and power."

    Gecko-Tac - grip like a Gecko lizard presumably!

    The marketing guys at Dunlop must be nuts or short of ideas....
     
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    ^^ Did the mktg materials show specific racquet models? Any specs? Will there be Tour versions of the 100 and 200?
     
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    I just got a 300Tour and I think it is one of the best Dunlop sticks I have ever hit with. I could crush shots with it and I like the weight and balance. It's not "very light". I have mine at 11.6 with a leather grip. Very light to me would be something like 10.6. Regardless, if you really needed the weight you could put lead on it. It is a lighter stick though, but I need that right now due to hurting my wrist.

    It is called the tour because it is based on their pro mold. Really amazing stick to me. You can hit heavy shots with it. It is the same weight as the stock apdc.
     
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    Sneak peek available of their official site, with Dunlop calling it "Inspired by Nature, Perfected by Dunlop". Interesting image.
     
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    Didn't see any official information on the actual racquets or specs, but from the various leaked photos posted, the 300 Tour seems to be:-

    97"
    18x20
    320g (strung)
    Balance: 320mm
    RA: 63
     
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    There is a 200 Tour. No 100 Tour but there's a 100.
     
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    Sounds gimmicky but if they're like the 4D line they should have some pretty good frames in there. Maybe this means the 4D 300 will go on sale soon :)
     
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    No 100 Tour -- very disappointing. The 100 is an outstanding design; just not heavy enough to play to its full potential.
     
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    the 200 tour almost looks teal from the pictures...
     
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    Link?

    (10 char)
     
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    it was the link the dude posted above me on the last page, some german blog, maybe scandinavian. by the way, email me back if you get a chance.
     
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    Sounds like double Dutch to me and the reference to Amsterdam kind of seals it.
     
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    yeah sorry I didn't attempt to decipher the text at all I just glanced when scrolling through the pictures. lets hope we can get some more info relating to specs and release dates.
     
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    Mind sharing with us? Oh and by the way According to the link leading to a dutch page, I guess that the release date of the 300 Tour (only) will be in november this year.
    "Biomimetic 300 serie is verkrijgbaar vanaf 11-2010"
     
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    200 Tour

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    300 Tour

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    Still not 100% clear whether these would be the final paint designs for the racquet though.
     
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    I don't know about the new paint jobs, but the new Dunlop bags definitely are better than the 4D version.
     
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