Dunlop F3.0 Tour vs. Head graphene speed pro

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  1. cold_frame

    cold_frame New User

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    These two are what I've come down by narrowing the candidates mostly based on the specs. 98in. vs 100in. is the main difference. I can't demo them and would have to make a decision this coming week. Any thoughts?
    The F3.0 has something that keeps me saying it would be the right decision but would also be pleased with the looks of the head!
    I'm a left handed baseliner with a mid spin long swing and a OHB.
    Thanks in advance!
     
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  2. Broly4

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    Both are great frames, you won't go wrong whichever you choose. The head size is similar (Head's 100 are 98 elsewhere). The F3.0 is quicker through the air and has easier top spin, the pro, a bit more precise and shines on flat serves. Both have a crisp feel, really control oriented, and are super solid for its weight, the pro being stiffer but no harsh.

    This week I'll play more with the Dunlop, and provide a full review, after the first match I am quite impressed.
     
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  3. cold_frame

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    Thank you Broly! Right now I'm playing with a Prince Exo 3 tour 16x18 and lately I'm stuck on thinking it's way too soft (52ra) which gives me bad feeling on impact. I also think the control is not so good. I've heard extreme softness may cause that...

    Waiting to hear your thoughts on the dunlop after playing a bit more!
     
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  4. Federerkblade

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    fantastic post !!!! as iv narrowed it down to these two as well. I cant either demoed at the moment so am really looking for in depth feedback on the 3.0
     
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  5. Federerkblade

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    Broly really looking forward to your comaprisons. pls report back with string tension too
     
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  6. SJSA

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    I have started playing with Tour 16x18 when it came out in the market first time. In last one year, I purchased seven more rackets to have a better racket than Tour including F3.0. However I sold all other rackets and went back to Tour. I didn't like F3.0 because of its hollow feel and lack of power.
    Just add lead tapes at 3 & 9 on your Tour to eliminate fluttering.
    Use poly strings for better control if you don't have TE.
     
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  7. dr325i

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    THe Graphene Speed Pro is a solid, stable stick with a decent power and spin. I was totally disappointed with the F3.0 Tour:
    1) It was unstable and underpowered
    2) Due to the external design, it is pretty much impossible to add any lead to it (Demo) as it won't stick. Not sure that were they thinking....

    If the weight and balance are OK for you in the stock form, I am sure it could be a nice stick. Otherwise, it was pretty much useless demo to me...
     
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  8. Federerkblade

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    What do you mean lead wont stick. I dont understand. is the material sticky resistant ???


    2) Due to the external design, it is pretty much impossible to add any lead to it (Demo) as it won't stick. Not sure that were they thinking....

    If the weight and balance are OK for you in the stock form, I am sure it could be a nice stick. Otherwise, it was pretty much useless demo to me...[/QUOTE]
     
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  9. dr325i

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    It has that Air skin or whatever they call it with bubbles on it and the lead simply will not stick to it.
     
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  10. Federerkblade

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    can anyone else confirm that lead wont stick inside the frame on the hoop or 3 and 9
     
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  11. Federerkblade

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    Wow the tw review messed up by not mentioning this

    I wonder what material the air skin contains that wont allow sticky
     
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  12. corners

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    I'ts probably just the irregular, bumpy surface that prevents sticking.
     
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  13. tom4ny

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    i have 1/4" lead tape from TW and it sticks to the aeroskin. some people have had the experience of it not sticking even going back to the biomimetic series. i have never had it come off on me even during playing. on the F3.0 tour i like just 2 strips at 10:2 as this still keeps the frame feeling fast through the air. currently i am playing with the F3.0 stock and find the frame to be stable. this frame plays great at mid to low tension but around 60 lbs it lacks power, feels stiff, and is like a different racket. i wouldnt go over 56 lbs.
     
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  14. neverstopplaying

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    I played with a leaded 400T for a long time first applied black electrical tape to the to the inside of the hoop and then placed the lead over this.

    Because of the Aeroskin, you have to press the lead hard against the surface, so it doesn't come off. This could possibly peel of the paint when removing it.

    Not an issue.

    I would like to hit with a new 3.0T, as I like Dunlop, but I'm pretty happy with the new Blade 18x20.
     
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  15. neverstopplaying

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    dup post (10 char)
     
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  16. nwl

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    Would like to share some experiences

    I played 300 Tour n just got Graphene Speed PRO

    Speed PRO has larger sweetspot, more stable.

    300 Tour plays faster in air n lighter.

    both have similar control n spin.

    havent try F3.0 yet.

    3.5 player. one BH. semi western grip.

    :)
     
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  17. MomentumGT

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    The lead didn't stick very well on my Bio 200 Plus due to the dimple paint job compared to other racquets I've owned but it wasn't like it was sliding off completely. The only time the lead tape would start to peel off would be if I shanked a big serve on the return in the region where the tape was applied. I would just push the lead tape back into place right after lol.

    -Jon
     
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  18. Federerkblade

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    whats better made the graphene pro or the 3.0? In the UK the 3.0 is abt 50 dollors cheaper each racquet than the pro.

    However the lead tape issue with the 3.0 is a concern
     
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  19. un6a

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    I have leaded up my Bio 400T and new lead tape sticking on the aeroskin surface just fine. Already used lead tape may not sticking very well, but this is case with other frames too. For the record I use Babolat lead tape.
     
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  20. Federerkblade

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    hmmm interesting for you its ok ? thank you does taking lead tape off damage the aeroskin ?
     
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  21. Hominator

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    Lead tape sticks just fine on the frame, even with the air skin design. I've used lead tape on all of mine, though I realized that I prefer it stock, after experimenting.
     
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  22. un6a

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    No, i never damaged PJ or Aeroskin when i removed leadtape.
     
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  23. ccmtennis

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    Yeah I agree there is no issue with lead tape on the F tour at all. I only use the babolat lead 3 g per inch tape is which is great in quality compared to a lot of others so that might also make the difference
     
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  24. dr325i

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    Interesting observations.
    Could have been the humid conditions that prevented me to stick the lead properly...
    Maybe I should give it another try...
     
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  25. Broly4

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    Just completed my playtest of the F3.0, really nice racquet, in addition to what I wrote in my initial post, I loved the feel, don't consider it hollow or harsh at all, it does have a metallic sound, reminds me the volkl pb10 mp solid, crisp and stable. I put cyclone pink 1.25 at 23.5 kg, which I think is the way to go with a poly in this frame.

    If you read the tw review, pay attention to Troy Lara, his review is spot on.
     
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  26. JackB1

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    Anyone else compare these two?
     
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  27. LeeD

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    Cheapo generic lead tape sticks super well to Bio300T's.
    Mostly, I use in inside the frame, but also on the sides of the top of the head.
    NEVER had any come loose.
     
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