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  1. LeeD

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    Thanks for posting those fotos on pronation.
    I totally forgot about that in my 30 year layoff from competitive tennis, and your 3 pics got me pronating again....
    Today, went out to the courts and served close to my best of 1978, increasing my service speed AND getting more consistency too boot.
    Honestly, old age, alzhimer's, and fading brain working on iboprofen got me thinking my first flats can now only go about 105 or so. With those 3 pics in mind, easy low 120's again, the percentage going in easy half better, giving confidence to swing out on the first flats.
    I played with the 3 guys who went up against #2Harvard's serves yesterday, and they said mine was right there in pure speed, but I can't come close to backing it up, of course. I'm not anywhere near 5.5.
    THANKS AGAIN and I hope you all get the pronation and let's raise our game levels !!
     
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    What were the pronation tips you remembered?
     
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    High hand a millisecond after impact, hand still above your head when your racket is now pointing straight down at the ground at your front foot.
    Didn't do that today, but cracked about 30 serves well into the teens, almost hitting my partners who have seen my serves for 5 years. Was fun watching them try to defend themselves, not trying to return the serve.
    I concentrated on serves up the middle, more margin for error, and a quick swing with the new 10.3 oz racket.
    Put a silver dollar size knot on my shin from a huge overhead. I paid that price....:(:( hurts 9 hours later if it touches my pants..
    I forgot how fun it is to hit body serves, and how inconsistent I can be when I try for the sidelines. This old dog just keeps forgetting the basics....hit hard, hit hard, hit hard, as long as it goes in, who really cares WHERE?
     
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    Seeing you say easy low 120's again, how does it feel going up against DIV 1 singles players? Do you still use this technique now?
     
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    Well, early last year, I was playing doubles with some Div1 singles guys, kids of parents I play tennis with on semester break. I'd stand 4' behind the baseline to return their first flat serves. THEY'D stand 4' behind the baseline to return my first flat serves. But they stood atop the baseline to return anyone elses serves.
    And against a former #1 at CalPoly (Div11), I sometimes kicked my twists right up around his forehead, and he's 6'5" and some change. Mostly, he'd step well forwards and crush the ball back towards me thos...:oops::oops:
    But they are WAAY better players. Superior movement is the biggest standout. They don't hit harder, but can set up more often.
     
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    double post
     
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    Quoted this from a different post of yours, so how come you didnt continue to play football? You could of been a good QB.
     
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    QB, no chance in heck....
    I could huck the ball a fair distance, but with 5 forward steps, not one.
    I was the shortest guy on the team all 3 high school years.
    Not sure about the center to QB handoff thing.
    My thing was to hit people low and hard, and get there before the play developed.
    QB position is for cheerleader boyfriend types, definetely not me. Not only was I tiny, but butt ugly like a newt. That's WHY I had to play sports thru school, to avoid getting myself beat up. In my day, nobody picks on anyone from football, basketball, or soccer teams. If you did, you'd have 1/2 the team looking for you late at night.
     
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    Same things these days Domond with the teams. So did you take any trips last year to Baja California surfing; or go to the Greek islands yet? Read last paragraph you wrote of my quote. Why chose to go homeless?
     
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    No trips in a while, I'm on sabbatical from having fun adventures.
    G/F, the one in PuertoRico, wants to get a little better at windsurfing so she can explore the sites in PR maybe next Nov. I've been on the leading edge of new surf and windsurf sites for the last 35 years here in SanFrancisco area, but haven't done anything lately, sitting on my butt.
    I have tons of gear on Oahu, but that is old hat and old gear.
    I plan to find some shipping way to get 2-4 sets of windsurf and kite gear to PuertoRico for not too much $$$$. I got tons of gear (like 30 windsurf boards and triple that in sails), but no real income.
    Oh, did you know? I'm incredibly lazy.
     
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    Oh you are going to Puerto Rico in november? You cant take it on a plane? So when was the last time you went to outside of us, beside mexico.
     
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    Plane won't accept 200lbs of gear, 9' long bags, in multiple bags for any price, we asked.
    Air Cargo is one way, or Air Freight airport to airport.
    Last time to Maui now is '03, for 3 weeks without then g/f. Was lonely and kinda boring. I'd hit every spot I could think of, and didn't meet anyone fun or single, except tons of guys doing the same thing.
     
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    Yeah its boring going alone, thats what my uncle says when he goes to california. So are you going to ship the gear on on freight plane? What is different from Puerto Rico then Hawayee? How was your trip in 03, when did you go, play any tennis? So you didnt go with your g/f aka (god father) in 03? why not?
     
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    No tennis, just my last big rep job for KineticSailboards, before they pulled the plug in the USA and throttled down back to SE Asia. Might have been great if then g/f was there, she'd WON some big races here in Berkeley, and was one of the most respected female windsurfers in the whole BayArea. She couldn't get time off work.
    Late summer, consistent 15-22mph breezes, light for Maui.
    I think I like Oahu better than Maui. It's lighter wind, but I have big gear over there, know the spots, and know tons of surfers and windsurfers there.
     
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    Ok you made surfboards then? Sounds cool, what is so special about Puerto Rico, does your god father want to go there? Why not go to the greek islands or iceland? Maui is cool place, been there one time for surfing. What is more making you want to wind surf instead of surf, less equiptment and other benifits?
     
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    Surfing is great. The young aggressive crowd is not. Less equipement, I'd bring only 3 boards anywhere I travel nowadaze.
    Windsurfing sucks in the amount of gear you gotta cart around. People are really friendly and nice, and it's almost a party feeling, us against them, like surfing was back in the mid 60's.
    PuertoRico. I have no desire to go there. Current G/F owns a beach condo in Fajardo, E side of the island. She goes back there 3 times a year. I suspect she's going out with me because I can windsurf. I'm 21 years her senior, so it can't be my good looks. Most girls only go out with me because I can do some sports pretty well, not because I'm the money making catch they are really looking for.
     
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    Is she from Puerto Rico just owns property there. If you had your choice to go to anywhere in the world where would you go? Hard question, would you go to Dubai to hit with Federer or go to an exotic tropical island? Is your girl friend love you for yourself or just windsurfing teacher?
     
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    If I could go anywhere in the world, I'd go to the east side of SanFrancisco bay and windsurf all summer, snowboard and play tennis all winter. Wait wait, I'm already doing that!
    G/F... well, you know, they're all different. But I've had surfing girlfriends, tennis girlfriends, skiing girlfriends, even motocross girlfriends, and honestly, I don't think ANY one of them thought of me as a long term solution. I get pretty good pretty quickly at most sports, so women think maybe I'm a train they can hitch onto for a short while, then go about their money seeking ways....:):) It's OK, that's the life I chose, and I don't regret it one bit, unless I'm starving, broke, out of a place to lay down, cold, tired, and no one wuves me ..:oops::cry:
    Fortunately, to play this lifestyle, I got to rebound quickly, forget the losses, embrace the future, keep my head up, and keep goofing around...
     
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    Thats about it, a train that provides information and instruction they need for a sport they love, then once they are good at it they love for someone else to get info from and the circle continues. If you dont have anyone by your 40,k chances are you wont find anyone, in most cases right? So you wouldnt rather be racing senior motocross if you had the chance? Or living in hawayee on a ceos pension? cmon domond, shame shame. goodnite.
     
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    I suspect that LeeD is actually an internet gazillionaire who is playing us.
     
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    LeeD do you mean snapping your wrist or pronation? Are they the same thing? I can see how "snapping" the wrist, but can you actively decide to pronate more?
     
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    can you link those 3 pics??
     
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    just a bump to get the pics
     
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    Sorry, I don't have the knowledge, or the ways and means of posting pics.
    You've seen the high elbow finish, where just a millisecond after the service contact, the elbow and hand is still above the head of the player, while the racket has gone all the way to point straight down at the ground.
    That is what I mean. Maybe the hand doesn't physically slow down it's movement thru it's arc, but the rackethead ACCELLERATE incredibly lots, passing from behind the wrist/elbow all the way thru strikezone and down the other side (frontside), while the wrist/elbow is still at it's apex.
    You guys know I'm a homeless person barely qualifying to get 561 a month next month. I'm in the process of applying for SS benes.
    If you ever want to discus any of the sports I've played, I'm sure I can detail you to death on most of them, as years playing and delving behind the industry in most of them gives some insight and extra knowledge. Sure, I've dipped momentarily into some sports, like hanggliding, parachuting, and such, but most of what I do, I do full time for a couple of years at least.
    My email is LeeDomond@gmail if you don't want to bother other tennis posters.
     
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    thanks for the responce LeeD
    i know what you were referring to now.
     
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    He is what he says he is.
     
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    Hey LEed check email.
     
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    Why? I never do..:cry:
     
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