Eagnas Combo 910

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  1. aznfatmonkey

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    I've been breaking my strings more now, so I'm thinking of getting a stringer. Right now, I'm thinking of getting the Eagnas Combo 910. Is this a good choice? If not, what are your suggestions? I've read that Eagnas have bad customer service, but I want to get one anyways because it's cheaper. Also, I've read that only certain Eagnas machines have problems, and the 910 isn't one of them. One more question. I've read that cheaper machines don't lose much value over time, and you can resell them for almost the same amount of money. Is this true for higher-priced machines as well?

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    An Eagnas Combo 910 is a decent stringer for the price. Unless you can get a used stringer for the same price.
     
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    I also forgot to ask. How much longer does it take to use a crank compared to an electronic stringer? Is it less accurate? Would you recommend a crank or an electronic? What would you recommend for around $600 if I were to get an electronic one?
     
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    I got my Combo 910 about a month ago and have done closer to 25 stringings with it and all I can say are positive things. The machine is just well built and the quality is really good. Of course I could have shelled out $1200 on a Neos 1000 but I opted to say over $700 and purchased the Combo 910, no regrets here. Take my advice, save the money for strings or other things that tickle your fancy, buy an Eagnas Combo 910.
     
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    was considering on getting this exact machine but switched to alpha Revo 4000. Think about it, What if something goes wrong with your machine? the Eagnas customer support is horrible, but the Alpha is marvelous. I'd be scared paying for an eagnas knowing that they messed people up, by giving them machines they did not order, or defective machines. If you live near their factory then its fine.. but if you get it shipped, i wouldn't reccomend it. I'd feel much safer paying a bit, while knowing that if anything goes wrong i can just call Mark and he would look into the situation unlike eagnas where its either hit or miss, not knowing if something is going to go wrong in the next year or two. Good luck though with whatever you may choose. Just my opinion, personally being in your shoes about 2 weeks ago.
     
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    looks good/solid. and easily wise-able.
     
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    Seeing as you have no first-hand experience with Eagnas, your opinion does not matter. I have personally dealt with Eagnas and they are more than accommodating. Again, I recommend the Combo 910
     
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    It does matter, because he's in the exact same position as i was in, and i wanted him to see what changed my mind.
     
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    Their customer service is fine as long as you are not dealing with them on the phone. You just have to take a picture of the part you want and send it to them by email. Then you can go through their online ordering system with the correct name and part number of the parts. Email response is quick and super fast shipping too. Since the 910 is a crank and it shouldn't have the spring slipping issue in a drop weight. It should be pretty durable and their turntable and clamps are both great. I love the 3-tooth clamp for poly and synthetic strings. I would prefer the 5-tooth clamp from Gamma for natural gut though as they have rougher surface and wouldn't need as much clamp force on the string.

    I mean, you are dealing with some ESL here and also paying $700 for a $1200 machine, you can't really expect perfect English response and 120% customer service like Alpha.

    I have a Combi 710 for almost 2 years and just put a Wise on it a few months ago due to some issues with the spring in the drop-weight. (It was fixable with a replacement spring but too lazy to do so. Drop weight are too slow too.) Works perfectly so far.
     
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    No it doesn't. You can not bash Eagnas' CS based on what you have heard. Most people who bash them have never tried their machines, which happen to be great. I dealt with both Eagnas and Alpha and Alpha is certainly better but why would I pay $600 for a table top when I can get a stand up crank with the same features for $500? Sure, I could have just based on the CS but I believed in Eagnas due to their quick responses, great support, and their bangin' prices. Eagnas all the way!
     
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    I agree. Based on my limited TT research on machines in this price range, this is the best bang for the buck. Also seems to be one of eagnas' "better" machines at least insofar as customer satisfaction.

    I'm bagging what you're mowing.
     
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    Imho, lots of the talk of poor Eagnas customer service is from people who never have even owned/purchased anything from them. Just propagation from different forum boards and the infamous YT video that keeps popping up in threads.

    Just like any product, there are plenty of people who are happy with the service/support they get and those who aren't. Those who are happy tend not to toot the horn about it. Those who aren't are pretty much the squeaky wheel who gets heard.

    If the features are what you are looking for and the price point is acceptable give it a go. You won't be disappointed. I've owned my Combo 910 machine only 6 mos but haven't seen any operational issues (though I did have some shipping issues outlined in a previous thread). If this is your first stringer and you want to spend the money $300-$600 more for basically the same machine that may have been made by the same far east manufacturer then go for it also. I have yet to speak with CS by I feel if I treat them with respect and explain what I need I will stay a satisfied customer. Good Luck.

    P.S. I agree the Combo 910 is very Wise 2086-able. Plan to do it as soon as funds allow ;)
     
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    Personally, after owning a Flex 940, the Combo 910 is better only because of the base clamps. However if you want a slightly better and up to date machine, the Plus 5500 or 6500 is worth getting. Same base clamps, better and newer mounting system. Also adding a Wise 2086 Pro later is a no-brainer. I've had my Wise for about 6 months now and I'm glad I got it.

    BTW, if you compare an Alpha Apex Pro to a Plus 6500, it's twice the cost of a Plus 6500 for practically the same machine.
     
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  14. aznfatmonkey

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    Crank vs Electric

    Thanks for the info guys. Another question. How much longer does it take to string with a crank compared to an electric? If there is a significant amount of difference, I might spend a little more money and go with an electronic machine.
     
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    I don't think you gain a whole lot of time, but your string bed will be more consistent with a constant pull electronic tensionhead. The closest electronic machine would be $1100.

    You are better off adding a Wise 2086 Pro tensionhead for another $500.
     
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    I disagree, as long as he admits it's not first hand information.

    I have had a Eagnas machine for 5 years. Frankly it's a piece of crap -- But I paid piece of crap price for it and I'm okay with that.

    Getting parts for it is a pain. The tone of voice of the guy who helps you makes you wonder why you didn't throw the machine in the garbage.

    If a piece doesn't work ot fit, be prepared to be yelled at, be told you're just bad luck, and then wait two months for a refund. I've documented this in the past so go look it up.

    So if someone reads what I wrote and wants to pass along that the CS at Eagnas sucks, I say go for it.

    . . . Bud
     
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    ^^I agree with bsandy.

    These boards are for sharing information. If someone, or in this case, many people have had bad experiences with a certain brand and post about it, then we are all better informed to have a lot of infornation (good and bad) to make an informed decision.

    Personally, I have read a lot of positive stuff about eagnas. That said, I've read far too many negative complaints, not about their product, rather customer service to never even consider purchasing a machine off them.
     
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  19. aznfatmonkey

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    So how much difference does the consistency in the stringbed make? Is the difference noticeable? Also, will inconsistency in the tension weaken the racquet frame?
     
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    I forgot to mention, I may be trying different strings to see which one I like better. However, I will only be trying synthetic gut/multifilament because poly hurts my arm. Will this affect my consistency? I don't want to end up having my strings at different tensions every time I string.
     
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    Well when you own a Babolat Star you get really spoiled. For the rest of us that don't want to spend an arm and leg to string our own rackets, it's better than nothing. You hear more Negative things about machines than Positive, someone is more like to complain than give props.

    In the end you get what you pay for. As for bsandy and a few others, they have had bad experiences with Maxline, but then again, maybe they bought the wrong machine. Sure Victor is no Brett, Mark, or Steve in customer service, but then again you pay for that in the price of the machine.
     
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    It's all about consistency of your crank speed. As you use it you will get a rhythm for how fast you crank. You might also want to get an electronic pull scale to see the consistency of your pulls. That way you get an idea of what you are actually pulling.
     
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    I disagree. Regardless of the machine, part, or tool one owns, customer service goes a long way.

    Note that I said in my post,,,,,,, I have heard both good and bad things about the eagnas line of machines, which goes for any company, including Babolat. In fact, babolat has had a bad run with their star 5 and sensor series. That said, the customer service is what makes a big difference. Silent Partner, for the most part works with people, and you rarely hear negative remarks about their customer service. But eagnas is so bad, I wouldn't bother purcashing anything from them because of the continual horros stories, and even though I own a babolat star 4, I own a $4 awl as well. I could have purchased it from eagnas, but chose to go elewhere because I don't want to deal with a person who seems to be a moron and treat people like doo-doo.

    my two cents
     
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    So basically, once I get used to it, I can get just as good a string job done as with a constant pull machine right?
     
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    Drak, I do respect your opinion most of the time, and I still do. This is just a friendly discussion and please don't take it personally.

    On the contrary, no one is holding a gun to your head to buy from Maxline or deal with Victor. You are free to buy from whomever you so choose. I've never had to deal with Victor personally. I've order from the web-site, and had my items picked up for me or delivered. Just like every other brand/company, except for LaserFibre US.

    Maybe it's coin flip dealing with Maxline, but if I can save a few hundred dollars on a machine, it's worth the gamble.

    Customer Service is all about attitude, if you give attitude you get attitude back. Though I don't speak for Victor's character, he's a bit sarcastic to most people, even to people who speak Mandarin Chinese. Everyone pre-judges him from the "horros" (horror) stories, but have not personally dealt the guy in person. Hmm, seems biased if you ask me, for two cents.
     
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  26. Lakers4Life

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    Exactly! Also having good technique is very important. I've taught some people how to string rackets on machines I've sold them. Some pick it up real fast and others need more work at it.
     
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    absolutely, positivley agree. And as I said, I have heard good things about their machines, so why not save a few hundred and get more bang for your buck as you state?? The quality, or lack there of, of their product is not what I'm debating here. I'm talking about the customer service.

    No need to deal with him personally. He has a website where anyone is free to read the responses he provides customers emails. It is extremely telling that he doesn't even try to hide his horrible attitude. Judging by the way he responds to people via email, I could only imagine what it would be like dealing with him in person or on the phone.

    But again, many folks have been able to get some great machines at a lower cost. I just believe if he had a better attitude, he would sell more product.


    PS: I'm not taking it personally. I agree this is a friendly discussion. Love you man! :)
     
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    Honestly, I don't think Victor knows how to design a website, so the infomation on there might not be his exact idea. It seems to me that it was designed in Taiwan.

    I've read the responses on the website, and I just laughed at the people requesting parts for a machine that was not made by Eagnas. It's like going to a Ford Dealer and asking for parts for a GM. I've found some replacement parts to be cheaper from Alpha than Maxline. :shock: Though if it were all about money, he would sell you anything you need and not care what machine you own, but I don't think he wants the extra hassle and just sell his own machine.

    I agree, If he just had better customer service. He'd probably sell more machines, even though he probably already out sells Gamma, Alpha, SP, and
    MP, combined.
     
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  29. aznfatmonkey

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    One last question before I buy a machine :) Is the combo 910 the same as the combo 810 except with a stand?
     
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    appears such.
     
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  31. aznfatmonkey

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    Is a machine with a stand more convenient/easier to use?
     
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    yes, i think so.
     
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    Yes, but I must warn you, the maximum height of the Combo 910 maxes out at about 38 inches. I'm talking about the height of the top of frame mounts. I'm 6'2" and my back hurt from stringing on my Flex 940 at it's max height. My Gamma 5003 is now set to 44 inches and is perfect for me. My back does not hurt any more.
     
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    Pick up some caster wheels at Home Depot, it will raise it a few inches and make it mobile.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=101973
     
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    how long have u had the flex 940 for?
     
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    and if i am 5' 11 would 38 inches be high enough for me without hurting my back?
     
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    i'm about the same height. i measured. it looks ok and if a tad low i see a few options (casters, longer bolt/feet, etc). i wouldn't let that be a deal breaker.
     
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    I've had it for about 6 months, before I traded it a friend who owned a Gamma 5003 (which I own now).

    For your height, 40-42" would be optimum. But the best way to measure optimum height is, to stand up striaght. With your arms to the sides, bend you elbows so your fore-arms is parrallel to the floor and you hands in front of your body, then with one hand (palm side up), and the other on top (palm side down). Measure that height between your palms and the floor.

    I was doing about 5-10 rackets a week, usually all in one day/night. So my back would hurt from bending over for a few hours. If you are stringing for yourself, then you should not worry too much.
     
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  39. aznfatmonkey

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    Thanks guys. I just ordered the Combo 910 today. I hope I get it sometime next week.
     
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    ^^^Let us know how it goes! Don't forget to order the starting clamp!
     
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    hehe yeah let us know how it goes :p
     
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    enjoy, looks like a nice machine. i may get one myself.
     
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  43. aznfatmonkey

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    What is the starting clamp for, and is it necessary?
     
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    IF you plan on doing Hybrid or two piece string jobs, Yes, a string clamp is needed.
     
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    why i do hybrid jobs with 2 flying clamps only. No starting clamps :S i use starting knot.
     
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    I don't like to use starting knot's, they have a tendency of pulling the grommet out. I recently strung a frame that was purchased online from major online Tennis store and was not prestrung in the factory. It was strung in a two piece job and the stringer used a starting knot. The knot pulled the grommet out an buldged the head guard out. The tip of the grommet no longer sticks out of frame. That's the reason you don't use a starting knot and never have the Store string it for you if you can help it.

    I may have to replace the grommet set if I can't fix the problem on a practically brand new racket.

    Also a staring clamp is very handy when used as a bridge on short ends, and for pulling knots tight. No decent stringer should be without one.
     
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  47. David123

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    Can't you use pliers or whatveer you use to cut the string? or does the starting clamp not shred and rip the string like the pliers do? :p
     
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    Starting clamps are wider than plyers, thus having a larger surface area. Also they way they are designed, you have to squeeze them to release the grip. Unlike plyers, where you have to squeeze to hold. If you ever used them you'll never want to be without one.
     
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    Haha i see lol
     
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    it's refreshing to see that someone can laugh so much!
     
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