Eagnas Logic 90

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by Wasserott, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Wasserott

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    I tried to buy the Laser Fibre constant pull Quantum TT Eco. I ordered it, was shipped but then sent back to Laser Fibre. They offered to send me a new one with upgrades (Premium Clamps). I accepted the offer and they said they would ship it. All this time they had already charged my credit card. A month went by after being told it would ship and I never heard from them again. I called, sent emails, left voice mails letting them know i was disputing charges...nothing, not a single response:confused:. So I like their product but they have NO SERVICE.

    What do you guys think of the Eagnas Logic 90. Looks like a great knock-off with a better price.

    I've never strung a racquet before but I like the idea of the constant pull. I don't really want to spend $800 for a string away either.

    Thoughts, options welcome.
     
  2. LMW

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    If I was in the market for a new stringer, I would give it a try. It looks solid in the photos.
     
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    If you are looking for bascially the same the machine, the Logic 90 probably fits the bill. Same turntable as the latest LaserFibre machine with the same drop weight assembly.

    LaserFibre Quantum TT - ECO:
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  5. jim e

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    Although they look similar, it also looks like the tension clamp is different, as the Eagnas brand does not have the diablo or the linnear tension clamp in position like the Laserfibre.So basically it may not be the "same machine" as others worded it, but similar.
     
  6. Lakers4Life

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    I notice that too, Jim, but the Logic 90 has the Stringway "like" gripper, which some swear by and prefer.

    A far as "Basics" go, you're never going find an exact match with an Eagnas machine. There will always be a slight difference, even with it's factory cousins, like Pro's Pro.
     
  7. Wasserott

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    All, thanks for the responses. This is good feedback so keep it coming, especially if someone has any first hand experience.

    As far as the gamma referenced (Progression II 602 FC), it does not seem to be a constant pull machine. But if i'm mistaken please let me know.
     
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    The Gamma Prog II 602 FC is a Rotational Drop Weight machine, therefore it is considered a CP machine.
     
  9. Wasserott

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    Sorry for my ignorance! I should have said i was interested in "automatic dropweight" where angle of the tension rod was not as much of an issue.
     
  10. Lakers4Life

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    There was another thread on the Logic 90, I don't know if it was actually purchased. One would assume it's an automatic drop weight like the Stringway, but no one has come forward to actually buying and using one.
     
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  11. Wasserott

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    Thanks again for your posts...
     
  12. jtap

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    I am in the same boat as you. I am watching this threat intently as I am contemplating making this my first machine.

    I do believe as others have said that the clamps are certainly different but that the main mold of the machine comes from the same place, hence why they look so identical.
     
  13. The Wreck

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    According to Eagnas website, the Logic 90 is indeed an "automatic" dropweight.
     
  14. Wasserott

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    some body must have some experience with this machine...
     
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    http://eagnas.com/logic90.html

    looks good and eagnas does have a good reputation for it's non electronic machines.

    personally i'd take a chance and buy it.
     
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  16. Wasserott

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    Ok, ordered it. Thanks for all the feedback.
     
  17. Lakers4Life

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    Let us know when you get it and give a review of your machine.
     
  18. jtap

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    I'm very interested to hear your opinion as it is on the top of my list.
     
  19. 000KFACTOR90000

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    I've got a stand up electronic but I'm considering it as a portable in the car - interesting machine.
     
  20. GPB

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    Hmm... what an interesting machine. Please post results and opinions!
     
  21. Wasserott

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    It came yesterday. I put it together and it seems pretty straight forward.

    It seems very heavy duty but the fit/finish isn't what i call top of the line on the painted items. I've let Maxline know that one of the items was below my expectations so I'm waiting to hear from them to make it right. I suspect they will as I would if it were my company. It won't interfere with the operation but would make me happier if it was corrected.

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    I was expecting it would look like this http://www.eagnas.com/jpgd4/l90op3.jpg

    What did impress me was accuracy of the tension calibration...spot on the marks once i figured out how to measure (second photo)

    I will update after stringing my first racquet and let you know if they made things right on the quality issues.

    Chuck
     
  22. Lakers4Life

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    Looks like you picked up a few other items with your purchase. ;)

    The chips on the back of the gripper head are normal, from the Stringway/Laserfibre machines I've seen. The chips on the front are not. I wonder if the new Laserfibre machines have the same issues.
     
  23. Wasserott

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    Why would they be normal...it's never been used! Do you think the are all made by the same company?
     
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    I could not really tell you, until I see a Stringway again, but I doubt I'll see one soon. The Stringway I saw before were powdercoated, these look painted. Even though powdercoating is pretty tough to chip, it does still chip.
     
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    Well I received my answer...guess that's that.


    Dear Sir:

    Thanks for your e-mail.

    We apologize for the paint on the string gripper. we checked all
    the Logic 90 models. We found out that all the string gripper were
    chipped. We found out that it is due to the moving parts of the string
    gripper. The string gripper will hit the housing during the shipment.
    So it was chipped by the transportation. In the future we will request the
    factory to wrap it before the shipment.

    If you need any further information, please do not hesitate to
    contact us.

    Sincerely,

    Michele
    Maxline
     
  26. GPB

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    Well, it's just paint. From their point of view, you could touch it up yourself. Don't let that ruin your joy of having a new machine!
     
  27. jtap

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    That kind of thing is part of why I enjoy buying stuff used. I don't feel as bad when I cause it to drop from 8 or 9/10 to 7 or 8/10 condition. That first scuff, scratch or chip from pristine condition really hurts :(

    Edit: The machine does look great otherwise. I can't wait to hear how it strings.
     
  28. Wasserott

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    Two racquets down, works pretty well. Never strung ever before. The only thing I notice is that for the string to be grabbed by the tension head, you've got place it under one side then back around to the second side. It does not have enough compression to only use only one side. Since it's direct copy of the string way, i'd be interested to hear if others using a Stringway with 60lbs of tension have the same experience.

    The clamps worked well, at this point i'd give it an 8.5 out of 10 and have no regrets except for the finish.

    So if you are on the fence, time to jump in.

    Chuck
     
  29. Technatic

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    Interesting info I wonder about some things:
    - Does the tensioner have the automatic release of the lock on the tensioner or do you have to push a button?
    -On my MS200 I only had to enter the string from one side what ever the tension never used two sides. Are the clamping surfaces machined or also painted?

    There is a big difference between powdercoating and powder coating if the parts were not hot enough it will easily come off.

    I doubt that these parts come from the same manufacturer, all SW parts come from the Dutch factories.

    Enjoy using your machine!
     
  30. Wasserott

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    No release buttons, it's automatic

    The lever locks once in place after you remove the string

    The surface is painted, not left in the machined finish.
     
  31. shstennis01

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    Would you mind posting a video of you using the machine? I wanna see how this machine works.
     
  32. Wasserott

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    I don't see that happening very soon but I will keep it in mind.
     
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    if ever see yourself stringing for other people buy alpha/ gamma 6pt crank + wise 2086 over stringway / laserfiber.
     
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    can you measure the shaft of those clamps for me? victor of eagnas is being an idiot and will not entertain my question about the measurements of the shaft/stem. appreciate a reply.
     
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    Eagnas shaft diameters are usually 12mm, legnth about 73mm. Gamma string clamps are also 12mm in diameter and are 82mm long.
     
  37. Wasserott

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    Junbug - did you answer your question? If not can you articulate it again so I know exactly what you are after.
     
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    lakers for life just answered it. go lakers:) i wanted the diameter of the clamps stem/shaft. identical to alpha's version and gamma.
    it just shows how much victor of eagnas has it up his rear . another potential sale lost
     
  39. Technatic

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    I am afraid that your gripper does not grip the string well because the clamping surfaces are too smooth and not completely flat.
    On my MS200, and I assume on all SW machines, the clamping surfaces of the tensioner were machined after powdercoating, so that they are completely flat and not as slippery as the paint..

    On your machine the alu castings are only powder coated obviously.
    How flat are these services?

    It may help to grind the surfaces in "cross direction" with emmery cloth 80 to 100 so that they will rougher and offer more friction.

    Good luck
     
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    I used 80 grit paper on the surfaces and my test pulled worked as it should. The surface is flat and now without slippery paint. Hopefully it will now work as expected with my next racquet.

    Thanks
    Chuck
     
  41. Technatic

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    Ok Wasserot,

    If it works well you can clamp the string on one side now.
     
  42. maa2003

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    pls update your result of stringing the racket ....

    I have a planning to buy this machine as well but if it is not good then I may opt to buy Challenger-1 instead.
     
  43. Wasserott

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    I have strung 4 racquets so far and am happy with the results.

    I would purchase again.
     
  44. Wasserott

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    Make that 5 now...still working very well.
     
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    oh no. not another positive eagnas owner experience!!

    that machine does look nice, glad it works well for you.
     
  46. Mighty Matteo

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    fellow eagnas owner here too. i have a combo 910. the few machines that are known to be solid are solid, like the challenger 1, combo 910, flex 940, and probably now the logic 90. one just has to know which ones to order. i also really like the string discounts cause some strings are pretty good. a guy just started another thread about likeing nano 17g. they copied the stringway weaving tool and it is in the badminton section of their site. will they release one for tennis soon?
    http://www.eagnas.com/maxgen2/bs2.html#bs2op
     
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    Mighty Matteo.

    shoot me a message (i tried to shoot you one already, no go).
    i want to compare some notes on the 910.

    cheers!
     
  48. maa2003

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    they have a tennis one ... TS-1:tennis racket stringing aids
     
  49. Mighty Matteo

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    sorry, my email is temporarily down. you can post it in this thread if you'd like. how long have you had yours and how many string jobs have you done on it? ive had mine since june and have about 100 rackets done.
     
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    Status of Logic 90?

    Wasserott...can you please email me? I'm interested in the Logic90 and am wondering what your experience is at this point. Thanks. tjohnson at sedonatek dot com
     

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