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Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by LttlElvis, Dec 18, 2006.

  1. mlewis721

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    More clarification

    Lakers....Wouldn't it make sense to reserve the term Cone-lock for mechanisms that actually contain cones? Like this:

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  2. mhstennis100

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    Flex 940 for a little more than a year. No problems
     
  3. Lakers4Life

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    I probably would, but Eagnas calls this a ConeLock swivel clamp base:
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    http://www.eagnas.com/maxgen/flsb4.html

    I'll call it anything you want, but don't call me Shirley! ;)
     
  4. mlewis721

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    Eagnas owners

    BTW, if you are the owner of an Eagnas machine and you have stripped the threads on or otherwise damaged one of your clamp base handles, an inexpensive source of replacements would be an industrial supply house like McMaster-Carr (www.mcmaster.com). Just enter the keywords "adjustable handles" on their home page. I believe the thread size you would be looking for is 5/16"-20 but I'm not 100% sure, so check if you can.
     
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    Combo 3800, the poor mans star 4
     
  6. Lakers4Life

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    I'm pretty sure it's metric, but the important point is the threads match the bung (nut) that holds it to the turntable. I have not checked the price at Maxline (Eagnas), but it should not cost that much.
     
  7. Topspinchris

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    Does anybody else make replacement clamps that will work on the Eagnas...I hate these dumb things(same ones as Laker posted a pic of)
     
  8. Lakers4Life

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    Someone mentioned it was like $300 for a pair of Eagnas Spring-assisted swivel clamp base. It's almost cheaper to buy a new machine and sell your old one. Had I found a pair I would have kept my Flex 940. Here is a picture for reference:
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  9. mlewis721

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    That's a real good point you make about the bung nut. One of the great things about McMaster is that they carry about 1/2 million different items, so if you can imagine it, they probably have it. What you refer to as a bung, McMaster calls a "T-slot nut" and they have it in a couple hundred different configurations. Or maybe you decide that there's less chance of you overtightening if you switch to a knob shaped handle. Plenty to choose from.

    I don't know what Maxline charges, but when I saw that Jadee Sports was charging $41.25 for a replacement, I thought I'd familiarize this crew with McMaster.
     
  10. game set match 46 TIMES!!

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    I got a Eagnas Combo 810 and its been great so far. But thats only 1 year...
     
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    I have the 940 which I have upgraded with the better clamp bases. I also use a wise tension head.

    I have had a couple of small adjustment kinds of issues but overall I am very happy with the machine. I have been to the Maxline warehouse and agree with others that it is a complete and utter mess. I also spent some time with Victor, who I actually found quite entertaining. English is not his first language and in person you get a better idea of his sense of humor. An example: my friend was buying a tension gauge and asked Victor if it was accurate. Victors response was "are you going to do some scientific experiments with it?" On the phone it would sound like a rude brush-off. In person I died laughing!

    He was extremely helpful and took a great deal of time demonstrating how to adjust the spring lock clamps.

    For the money they are hard to beat.

    JND28
     
  12. kato669

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    I just got a Combo 910. Unit assembled with no issues (with minor scratches from shipping, no big deal). I was hesitant placing the order for the machine because of all the issues people talk about with Eagnas machines but the unit assembled together perfectly with no heroics/sanding/re-drilling required. I've strung 3 racquets so far and the machine was a breeze to use. I haven't had to deal with Maxline at this point so other than prompt shipping (unit arrived in about 4 days) they've done a good job. I'm very happy with the purchase. Count me as a satisfied Eagnas user.
     
  13. Edstringer13

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    Any experiences/advices/warning about these?

    http://eagnas.com/fl722e.html
    http://eagnas.com/smart600.html
    Smart3000
    SMART600
    fLEX722E
    Neon CSX upgraded model
    Combo 3800
    Another question.
    Using electric machines would i be able to string small rackets in one piece using about 36 ft,as i use on crank manual machine?
    thanks a lot if you'll can help me.
     
  14. Lakers4Life

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    The Smart 6000 would be my choice for electronic machines in the lot. I don't recommend the Flex 722e nor the Neon CSX.

    The distance of the tension head will be in the same place from the start. Unlike a crank where the tension head can start from almost any position along the rail. You should have at least 6" to 1 foot of string to pull or you will need a starting clamp to bridge the gap. Some have used scrap string, but you are better off using a starting clamp, also a handy to have.
     
  15. RDANGOY730

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    Hi antonio,I ordered challenger 1 oct 29,and shipped the next day will wait for about 4-5 business days,im also new to home stringing and also researched bout stringing machine.Is the dropweight needs to be calibrated since i know its factory calibrated?anyone can help me?
    Thanks! Renato
     
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    Drop weights only need to calibrated once, just to verify the marks are correct on the rod.
     
  17. Edstringer13

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    Smart 6000 looks really good for the price.I heard that their head tensioners don't last very long and it's luck to ge from a good batch.
    But what's wrong or what have you heard from Flex722e or Neon CSX that is bad?
    How much of string do you use in one piece in your experince?
    thanks
     
  18. Lakers4Life

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    I string from reels most of the time, and lately a lot of two piece jobs. For mains I measure from the top of the racket to the bottom of the stringbed to the throat, 8 to 9 times then double it, depending on the pattern. I have about a foot of string on each end of the mains. The crosses are done the same way. If you go by the recommended string guides they are usually pretty generous.

    As for the Flex722e and the Neo CSX, they are older style electronic tension heads. The Smart 6000 and the Combo 8000 is what I would go for.

    If you live close to Maxline in Gardena, you could buy the Flex722e or the Neon CSX. A Wise 2086 on any of the crank machines or higher dropweight machines are probably a better bet than the lower end electronic tension heads.
     
  19. Edstringer13

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    no, i live in the east cost.
    But is there any difference between buying on Eagnas website and buying on Maxiline website?
     
  20. kato669

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    There is no difference. Eagnas.com will refer you to their store, which in the US is run by Maxline.

    Whois shows the eagnas.com domain is owned by Maxline.
     
  21. RDANGOY730

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    Thanks lakers4life,so if i calibrate it w the calibrator once i can retrurn it since i only have to do it once.
     
  22. Lakers4Life

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    More or less, Yes. One guy happen to peal the sticker off his tension rod, and needed a scale/calibrator to align the replacement sticker.

    I use my digital scale for other things other than calibrating my machine. It's great for weighing packages, luggage and fish.;)
     
  23. tennisman917

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    i had the eagnas flex 920 it wasnt that great and on top of that the table lock was broken
     
  24. RDANGOY730

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    Got my challenger I lastweek and have strung 3rackets,gettina familiar with the machine on the 3rd racket and especially the dropweigth w linear gripper.as with other eagnas owner im pretty happy with the machine for the price, as with the customer service i always communicate thru e mail and no problem with them,btw the shipping package is not that perfect and got some chips on paints maybe they should improve the packaging to prevent those paint chips.planning to get more strings and practice more on my technique.btw thanks alot to yulittle'sy u tube on stringing instructions i got so many tips and techniques on proper stringing.
    Renato
     
  25. downs_chris

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    i've had my eagnas hawk 800 for 11+ years...i've stripped the bolt on the base clamp recently and just bought one floating clamp...done 1000+ racquets...
     
  26. RDANGOY730

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    Wow!11yrs and 1k racquets!good for you.btw what floating clamp you got?
    Question to anyone do you really need a starting clamp when using a fixed clamp?and also on pulling two strings on starting the mains it is that possible with my linear gripper dropweigth machine?
     
  27. mlewis721

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    Why not just replace the bolt?
     
  28. downs_chris

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    haha...since I order so much from tennis-warehouse, i just got the floating clamp from them...i think i want to upgrade my machine to something that has base clamps that only need a quarter turn...

    as for the starting clamp -- if you have 2 fixed clamps, there's no need for a starting clamp...
     
  29. jim e

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    Thats not really true.I have fixed swivel clamps and there are a good # of reasons for a starting clamp. Below are ones that come to mind.

    1.I have used it for flattening out the tip end of the string, which made cutting the tip at an angle easier, to help slide the string through a blocked hole.
    2.Also used to bridge a scrap piece of string, to extend the length of string to reach tension head when string was a little short.(This saved my behind a # of times, I could have tied a string, but that is time consuming, and not reliable!)I keep a separate starting clamp with a scrap string on it when this situation happens, I am all set to bridge the string.
    3.Also, there are some racquets where the cross tie off to start is listed to tie on a cross string,one example,Babolat PStorm, the cross tieoff is on the 3rd cross (not on a main). You need a starting clamp so you can weave the first several crosses , then tieoff at the 11 H.as listed. You can enlargen a grommet if you want to as long as you do this before you start, but is not what manuf. stringing pattern lists
    4.I also use a starting clamp to start my crosses, so all knots are the same,and you would not be tying off on a main string and pulling tension against it, and when using thin gut or other 'fragile' multifilament strings, and especially at higher tensions, it is not uncommon to snap that first cross string right at the knot or at the two sharp turns the string makes, With using a starting clamp, you do not pull tension against these turns. The USRSA stated at the stringers symposium this past Oct.that they will be updating their recommended procedure, for using the starting clamp use to start crosses.Starting knots could be a thing of the past.
    5. Some ATW patterns require the use of a starting clamp, (Or use of flying clamp, to use like a starting clamp), to hold the tension of the string on outside of the frame, until you free up a machine clamp.

    I have 3 starting clamps, granted I do not use all 3 at one time, but they are a handy tool to have, and even a good one is cheap enough.
     
  30. leafscat

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    As a soon to be rookie stringer. How many starting clamps would you use at one time? Sounds like two, if you are waiting for a cross to tie the main off on and you are starting the cross with a starting clamp. Just wondering how many I need.

    Thanks
     
  31. jim e

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    Only one is really needed, and others will tell you you do not need any.I peronally would not want to work without one.
    The only reason I bought 3 was to try out a few different ones, and have one prestrung with a scrap string at all times when I need to bridge a short string, plus in case one should fail over time.I purchased one from gss, a gamma and an alpha starting clamp, and I really like the gss one the best, but they all work as designed, none have ever failed, the alpha is just a little wider sizewise, all were cheap relatively speaking.Beware though, in the past some people here purchased a starting clamp from Eagnas, and they reported getting a rusted one that would not work and had to pay to ship it back, and was cheaper to get a good one to start. To get a good one is cheap enough.
     
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    Just got my Challenger 1 and I must confess a bit of "Buyer's Remorse". I'm upgrading from Gamma X2 and I like the fixed clamp on Challenger but does not like the linear gripper. It slows me down having to carefully lay down the strings inside the gripper. On top of that, having to worry about running out of rotation because I'm using mostly multi or synthetic string and they stretches. The gripper rotate from 3 clock to 9 clock and have not reached tension yet. I'm only doing 55lb, doing higher tension would be even more bothersome, I imagine.

    I think the linear gripper being gentle to gut is over-rated.

    Is there any way to convert this tension head to crank? or downgrade to regular gripper?
     
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    Just pull your string when you put it on the gripper and then use your pinky finger to slide the gripper to start gripping the string. It should be fine. I used the linear gripper to string gut and it's perfect for the job.

    The spring inside the clutch tends to break or slip though. :( My third one just broke last week and I ordered a Wise 2086 as a replacement. It should come by UPS on Monday. I am now just praying it's worth $500.
     
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    challenger II (one with no ratchet) - great.

    the little screw that held the dropweight up above the frame broke in about a month but easy to replace and not essential.
     
  36. RDANGOY730

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    Im thinking of putting a diablo on my string linear gripper but i have not seen anyone using it and dont know if you can connect it with the challenger I,anyone can suggest?
     
  37. RDANGOY730

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    Actually i got a new technique on using a diablo on my challenger I,i put one loop on the rachet before i put ir in the lineae gripper and it worked esp on synthetic gut,.i answered my own ?.
     
  38. crazyrange

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    challenger I

    I love my challenger I. The only qualm I have is stringing natural gut. It's pretty much a necessity to have a starting clamp to string that. Otherwise, I love the 6pt mounting system, fixed clamps, and linear gripper
     
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    Eagnas

    Eagnas EAG 860 $429
    Eagnas Flash 920 $539
    Eagnas Combo 910 $499
    Eagnas Beta $429
    What do you experts think about these?
    Have you all had any experience with these?
    Any feedback at all?
    thanks
     
  40. kato669

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    I recently purchased the Combo 910 and I'm very happy with the machine. I've done strung about a dozen times on it and the sticks have been spot on.

    Pros:
    - The machine has fixed swivel clamps which lock down easily. Big improvement from the floating clamps I was coming from.
    - Disc brake turntable lock for Prince O3/Wilson Roller type racquets which is quick to lock down and release.
    - Tension head is the standard Neos-type design and is easy to adjust and operate.
    - Easy to assemble and tension head was pre callibrated (checked with a spring tension callibrator I bought with the machine).
    - Comes with a full reel of string (Eagnas Perfect Spin) which is okay to play with but definitely good for practice if you're just beginning to learn
    - Price: I mainly string for myself so price was a concern. Machine does an excellent job for the price. Great value.

    Cons:
    - Packing can be improved. Machine did have a few nicks on it that could have been prevented with better packing
    - Instructions are not the best and can be improved also. Stringing guide is a bit of a stretch calling it that. Not helpful at all.


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    Haven't used it yet, don't plan to but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. YULitle's videos and other web resources have been my main sources of info.

    Good luck on your decision.
     
  41. Rumruner

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    Eagnas 6500 Plus good 6 years

    Eagnas 6500 Plus good 6 years
     
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    If i'm paying for something new,i want it to look like brand new,no scratches,until i do it myself,if it happens.I really take great care of my stuff.
    Do you think if i called them and asked for better packaging in case i wanted to buy,they'd do something.
    Dis yours have lock-out system?
     
  43. Lakers4Life

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    I'm considering a Plus 6500, I thought it was a new product.
     
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    The 860 and Beta have similar mounts, with bar clamps. The Flash 920 has Gamma style mounts with cone-lock base clamps, the Combo 910 has Alpha style mounts with lever clamps.

    It all depends on how many rackets you plan to string in a year. I would consider a Comet 11, Plus 6500 or a Plus 5500 (tabletop version of the 6500). All of these have self centering mounts with lever base clamps.
     
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    Let us know how Vic responds to this question. Should be good :)
     
  46. kato669

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    Based on what others has posted regarding Maxline I doubt they would open the box up and insert more padding in. It wouldn't hurt to ask but I wouldn't hold your breath.

    The tension head is the lock-out type of head with a crank.
     
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    I'm thinking about buying for myself,and to get the money back i'll put some adds around and then get the money back possibly.
    Have you used any of these?
    Can you name what would be your choices?
    thanks
     
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    So ,why are they so bad as customer service goes?
    It's no-brainer ,that you should try to make your customers as happy as they can be.
     
  49. Lakers4Life

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    I used to own a Flex 940, the only thing I did not like about it was the Cone-lock or Screw base clamps. I traded it for a Gamma 5003, but the 5003 has a crappy brake, not great for Prince O3 rackets. I'll probably sell my Gamma and get either the Plus 6500 or the Comet 11. Both are the same price, but I'm still debating which one to get. The Combo 910 is probably the one I would recommend, though it's a Flex 940 with better base clamps. BTW I bought my 940 used for $300. I prefer centering mounts, that's what most of the higher end machines have.

    Depending on what the going rate in your area is for stringing, you can make at least $10 a racket. If you string 50-60 rackets that's about $500 plus materials. I do 40-50 rackets a month as a hobby and not really a business. I put all the money I make on rackets in a separate bank account, then when I need supplies, league fees, etc., I draw from that account. So far I've made enough to pay for my first machine, upgraded my tools, buy string, grip supplies, Wise 2086, and probably enough for a better machine. I also have a project Prince 5000 table, I'm slowly building. I advertise in Craigslist, but most of my clients are by word of mouth.

    Maxline is in the business to sell machines, wholesale if possible, and not really "walk-in" type customers. Though Victor is quite a character according to some. I personally met him once and was pretty much as I expected. Though others have had pleasant experiences, and others more confrontational, at best. So it's a hit or miss. I for one, know what I'm buying and don't need any hand holding. You might get better CS from the other companies, but you also pay for it, as much as twice the cost.

    As for Shipping, pick up if you live in So Cal, if not claim on the shippin insurance. That's why you pay for insurance.
     
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    You got my idea about stringing for others.
    About the CS,if i buy can ask them to insure the delivery?
    I'm still thinking,but i don't think i need any better,i think i'll be fine with either one.
    Thanks for all the replies.
     

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