Eagnas Plus 8000 In Action

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by robstepp, Feb 28, 2006.

  1. Mike Cottrill

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    Fantom,
    Thanks, you’re correct. Looks like they cut the corner off the PCB. You can tell from the top view photo that it is okay and that the corner was tapered.

    I would like to get those posted as well. The Poreex machine uses a Valeo motor. The electronics are different, has a cooling fan, electronic card slides down on a slot (sits vertical). Hopefully the approval will come soon.
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  2. robstepp

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    Am I the only one using this machine?

    There haven't been many comments so far even after the pictures have been posted.

    In my experience thus far, the machine has been perfect.

    Does anyone have any experiences they can relate on what to look for or expect as failures in the future?

    THANKS! :mrgreen:
     
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  3. Mike Cottrill

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  4. robstepp

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    BlunderBust

    It doesn't appear there was any final resolution or pictures posted by anyone, just a bunch of whining and crying and global travel chest-thumping. Was anything accomplished off the boards regarding the machines' origins or quality of parts?

    I will stand by my experiences thus far and say the Eagnas Plus 8000 has been wonderful, from the three-tooth clamps, the tension head, and the consistency aspect.

    What a mess this all becomes. Is there anyone who is the authority on the stringing machine companies? Porex makes this, Xpider makes that, Alpha uses this, Eagnas that, Mutual Power over here, Gamma over there, Lily-Lee bringng up the rear... What a clear cut confusion.

    Like I said, all of the threads always seem to die out and not really solve anything or have any clarification whatsoever. I said I would post pictures and I did it. Professional people who are in here need to get on the ball and be productive. Be worth something, not worthless.

    Thanks. :mrgreen:
     
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  5. Mike Cottrill

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    Rob,
    Unfortunately most of the “professionals” prefer to stay out of the lime light. However, those that I have talked to (Professionals = Distributors of stringing machines) have not misled me at all. The offline discussions between different individuals have not been contradicting. The pictures you posted confirm information provided by one distributor. Thanks for the Photo’s. The photos’ I have will not show who makes what, just that the machines are not the same.

    We have posted who make what machines in the past from information gathered by distributors and other sources. In some cases, one company may sell machines from several OEMs and changes with time. Like Gosen currently has machines made my Poreex, but their top of the line is not. Gosen (Gosen 7000) actually sold an older machine which was a re-bagged Babolat Star 4.

    POREX INDUSTRIAL (NEOS, Some Prince, Some SAM, some Alpha)
    http://business.com.tw/com/com.asp?id=hl3yirpp0yrc3yi

    LILY-LEE & CO., LTD. (Eagnas)
    http://business.com.tw/com/com.asp?id=hdl1ebm8yvfzfru

    XPIDER CO., LTD. (Silent Partner and Mutual Power machines)
    http://business.com.tw/com/com.asp?id=ic3qg6cxamakl7q

    GOSEN CO., LTD. TAIWAN BRANCHhttp://business.com.tw/com/com.asp?id=kb4dsfkwpa96k8m

    TENRON STRINGS CO LTD (Some Alpha Machines)
    http://www.eyp.com.tw/yp/company/yp_feature.php?cust_id=NDI1ODM=

    ??
    TSULIEN MANUFACTURING INC.
    http://business.com.tw/com/com.asp?id=i8bj01lxjy3wk95
     
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  6. robstepp

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    Secret Service

    I guess what we need is for someone who "knows" the secrets of the industry to start up a new name, like "Anonymous Informant XXX" and start releasing info and pictures.

    I will admit I took a risk with my Eagnas Plus 8000. After all of the negative feedback found throughout the web, I really struggled on my decision to purchase the machine. After long thought and research, I felt the machine had too much to offer for WAY less money. It would have been a more informed decision if the secrets of the industry were out there from our mysterious "Anonynous Informant XXX"!

    For now I will be the Plus 8000 informant.
    Only good things to report thus far! :mrgreen:
     
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  7. barry

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    Maybe risk for some, but sounds like you purchased a winner and have an extra $900 in your pocket.
     
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  8. robstepp

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    I am happy with my decision so far.

    Anyone else out there have any experiences with this machine? (Plus 8000) I would really like to know if there are any items to watch out for.

    Another Non-Critical discrepancy. The round circle cover plate, the one with the black hole in the center of it, popped loose. It does nothing other than cover the allen key bolt below, but I wanted to report everything I find. I left the cover off until I could get my hands on a little bit of tacky glue to put it back in place. This has no effect on the function of the machine. However, there have now been 2 cosmetic items that have come loose.
    [​IMG]

    Still a solid machine in my eyes. Gripper sweet, 3-tooth clamps sweet, linear pull perfect, tension maintenance sweet, 10-point support mount awesome, control pad options extensive. :mrgreen:

    Comments? :rolleyes:
     
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  9. robstepp

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    ¿

    I already have the most replies, now all I need are the most views. Work with me people. :mrgreen:

    Still waiting for comments. Sounds like all of the peanuts in the gallery have gone quiet. :p
     
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  10. topknocker

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    ????

    how do you post pictures in a thread? i can't figure it out. i can post links to a picture, but not an actual picture in the thread itself.
     
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  11. Kevo

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    This happened on my Eagnas Challenger 1 drop weight. I don't even know why they bother putting them on in the first place. If they just left them off I think it would be fine. I haven't bothered to put mine back on and I never think twice about it.
     
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    Insert Pics

    I needed help on that once too. You will click the "Insert Image" icon. That is located 13 buttons over from the BOLD button. It looks like a mountain and sun inside a yellow square. When you click it, another window "Explorere User Prompt" will open up and you need to paste your link into it. Having a usable link can be the easy/hard part.

    In order for the picture to show up as an actual picture and not text or a broken picture, you need your link to be to the actual picture. The way to do that is to go to tinypic dot com www.tinypic.com and upload your pictures into it. It is free and super simple. Once you upload your pictures, it will give you the URL: and you just have to paste it back into that "Explorer User Prompt".

    Pretty simple really, especially after you do it once. Let me know if that helps.

    :mrgreen:
     
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  13. robstepp

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    Champ!

    This thread has been great. I have loved being the inside-man for the Eagnas Plus 8000. (Still a great machine).

    I now have the most views and replies. :cool:

    I feel on top of the world. (The thread world) :mrgreen:
     
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  14. Mr. Blond

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    Knocker, you have to upload the picture to another site, then just reference that site in your post as follows [I*MG]http://i2.tinypic.com/vdpirl.jpg[/IM*G]

    removing the * in the IMG tag will make the picture appear.
    You have to put the correct address in between the tags.

    so basically you would have the following tag [​IMG]
     
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  15. tennis4losers

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    hey robstepp, i was woundering would you be interested in selling me the eagnas perfect spin reel that you got with the machine? email me at sushiricecracker@gmail.com
     
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  16. robstepp

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    Sorry

    I am an easy-going guy and would have sold it to you for sure. Only problem is that I used a lot of it. I was teaching my nephew to string and had him use that reel to string around 6 sticks, so it probably has around 380' to 420' left on it.

    Are you a "Member"? We can get it for $50 plus shipping. :mrgreen:

    I didn't even know it was a $75 reel. I told my nephew to keep cutting the string out of the same racquet every time he was done and start all over again. That works out to be $27 worth of practice. :rolleyes:

    http://www.eagnas.com/string.html
     
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  17. robstepp

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    !

    Has anyone else found the cajones to post pictures or info about their machines? :rolleyes:
     
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  18. thefossman

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    Let's get a grip here ...

    For those of you who wondered where I've been for a while, it's the shills out there that marginalize this board. There are a couple of people here who consistently bash Eagnas with very limited experience or data about the product or competitors products. As a big Babolat guy who has owned many machines, I personally have had several defective linear mechanisms right out of the box. In this particular case the distributor replaced the problematic piece and the client was happy. Case closed. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE.
     
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  19. dancraig

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    Could the number of unhappy Eagnas customers be related to the fact that they sell more stringers then anyone else in the world? All else being equal, if you sell more product than anyone else, you will have more complaints than anyone else. They claim to sell 1500 of this model in SE Asia yearly.

    http://www.eagnas.com/eag300.html

    I'm not taking a position, just wondering.
     
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  20. wombat

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    plus 8000 v gamma 5800 els

    Hi Bobstep. I life in Germany and are currently under stress. I would like to get an electronic stringer, but are not too sure which one of the two mentioned machines I should get. Service for the plus 8000 should not be a problem, it runs through a German tennis shop. The owner of wich is a specialist in stringing maschines. The Gamma 5800 els is also no problem, the prices for both are just about the same here.
    How is your plus 8000 keeping up with the pace? Still OK?
    Any tips?

    I got the Plus 8000 4 weeks ago and I must say, you are right. It is a sturdy and very consistent maschine. I had no problems whatsoever until now and I like ite a lot. The shop where i got the maschine calibrated and tested the maschine for me so I could immediately use it, it is a really great maschine. Thank you for your review Rob, it helped me make the big decisssion..
     
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  21. Steve Huff

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    Rob, my first Alpha clamps were needing constant adjustment. I broke down an bought 2 Eagnas PN 1012 clamps and had a machinist cut off the post and custom make a new post for each of them so they'd fit my Alpha. The clamps looked great, heavy duty, and nice smooth, easy to use. However, after about 50 rackets, string began to slip right through them. I cleaned them with alcohol with no success. Then, I made the mistake of using a rough file to try to get more friction. It didn't work. I took them to the machinist to see if he could put a finish on them to hold string (I gave him some string to use to test with). Still haven't been able to use them. Anothe poster who owns a few shops, who had a couple of Eagnas electronic machines said that they consider the clamps "disposable items". They throw them away after 50-75 stringjobs. I know you said you were at 50 now. Let me know how much longer they hold the string. I was really exited when I got them, but they left me disappointed later. Alpha got me some older model clamps that I like now, and they're getting a redesigned, hopefully well-tested model coming out soon.
     
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  22. thefossman

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    The idea that getting a bad tensioning head is an unusual event is ridiculous. I purchased a 2086 from Herb for a friend of mine last fall and it was DOA out of the box. My most recent Babolat had a head that was DOA. That happens to all the manufacturers. It is not uncommon.
     
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  23. Supracool94

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    Eagnas makes it tough to take a chance with them, I bought a TX-03:

    http://www.eagnas.com/tx03.html

    First, is was missing the power cord. Then it worked for about ten pulls and stopped working. The quality of the overall machine was not very good. Then to top it off, they were going to charge me a 15% restocking fee for returning a machine that never worked. I called my credit card company and had the charges reversed. They make it hard to give them a try, with that 15% fee. Imagine if bought a $1500.00 machine, and were charged 15% to return it. You would be out $225.00 !
     
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  24. saturn

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    Hi Robstepp,

    looks like you've got a nice machine for a comparatively low price. I purchased a Eagnas Challenger I (aka Pro's Pro Phoenix which they sent me) recently and have had to send my string gripper to be replaced. There was a problem from the start just like you. Since I live in Canada, I couldn't drive there like yourself. If this issue works out for me, it's a nice machine for a decent price.
     
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  25. Audiodude

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    Eagnas seems to have a higher percentage of failures than that of companies like Gamma, Alpha and Prince. That said, I think most peoples issues arise from the difficulty in dealing with Maxline regarding service issues.
     
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  26. Voltron

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    It seems they have, as the clamps on my Revo are doing great, it has only been 10 or 12 jobs so far though. We'll see.......
     
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  27. ericsson

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    Anyone had problems yet with the base clamps? i have one that wont lock on no more. I try to adjust with the little sixpoints but nothing.
    [​IMG]
     
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  28. Ben42

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    I didn't say it was unusual. Problems happen; I understand that. I judge a company by how it responds to a problem.

    Maxline did a very poor job in response to the problem I had with my stringer. They have done a very poor job responding to other's who've had problems with their stringers.

    Given the inconsistent level of quality control from Eagnas I'd say that how Maxline responds to problems is something potential customers should think about.
     
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  29. Kevo

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    There is a hole in the base of the clamp on the side that you insert the allen wrench into. The clamp has to be rotated properly so the hole lines up with the bolthead on the opposite interior side of the clamp base. Tighten that up and it should clamp better. You will need to do this from time to time to compensate for the compression of the pads that occurs from usage. I've adjusted mine a few times now and never had any trouble.
     
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  30. ericsson

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    Thanks a lot Kevo, i will try that.

    edit: just tightend that up and the clamp is up and running again ;-)

    thanks a lot for the good tip! (i dont have a manual)
     
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  31. robstepp

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    Still Good To Go!

    I haven't had the time to get on the boards for a while now...Sorry!

    My machine and its clamps are still going strong. I have not needed to contact Maxline/Eagnas once since the first discrepancy I had right out of the box. Since then, flawless.

    Tension is still spot on and the clamps still hold all string types. Don't forget however, that I am obsessive compulsive so I clean everything twice.

    Hopefully this thread is helping out the masses. :-D
     
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  32. Luctator

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    I also strung on a plus 8000 for 3 weeks, the only thing I had problems with were the clamp bases, like many eagnas machines, which needed constant adjustment with an allen wrench. How to get around that problem?
     
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  33. DADYO

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    Damn, guess I wasn't as lucky as robstepp, my Plus 8000 broke down on me :p

    Anyways, what is deducable from your whole experience is that if you live within a driving distance from Maxline, than Eagnas is the way to go, because you can just bring whatever doesn't work back to them.

    The problem is if you live far away....
     
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  34. 10-is

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    How to calibrate Eagnas Plus 8000

    Hi, my name is Francisco, and last week i received my new stringing machine Plus 8000 Eagnas, but is 7-8 lbs below, how can i calibrate it.

    the machine didn´t come with any cataloge???

    Best regards

    Francisco Venegas alvez
     
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  35. DADYO

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    You have to take off the cover, on the computer chip board you will see 2 little "mountains" with screws on top... You have to do something with the screws, depending on if the tension is lower or higher...

    Sorry, that's all I can remember ;)
     
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  36. 10-is

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    hey??????


    Thnak you very much, now How I can take over the cover, because, string gripper I don´t know how to take it????

    [​IMG]

    Best Regards

    Francisco venegas
     
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  37. betiYonex

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  38. betiYonex

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    Here we have a new PLUS 8000 not working.
    We switch it on but the machine displays the eagnas logo and gets stopped.
    Not displaying any tension to start the job.
    Somebody knows how to reset the machine?
    Must we switch it on while pushing any button like printers?
    thanks in advance
     
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  39. robstepp

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    Hate to be the lucky one, but my machine is still banging out sticks, probably 200+ by now. :mrgreen:

    To respond to the last post, if it isn't going into the self test countdown, something must be wrong with your computer. Once the machine is on for a while, it will go into power save and display the Eagnas logo. When it does that, all you have to do is hit the white cycle switch to get the normal tension screen back, but it doesn't sound like that is your problem. I hope you live close enough to give them a visit. I can't deny that it may be tough to get it fixed through the mail.
     
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  40. robstepp

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    Update

    Still going strong. Machine is working as advertised. I test the tension often and it is still spot on. :)
     
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  41. 1012007

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    WOW i must say im very suprised. Im sure if Eagnas were "substandard" then you would of had problems by now. Surely you cant just lucky as they have made many of these machines!

    Intersting...
     
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  42. iplaybetter

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    very interesting, i would still spend more for better ones, and not rink that much
     
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    I have a Combo 3800 and never had any problems. Tension is right on after about 75 frames in a year. I only string for myself so I am not a high volume stringer (other than the fact I break alot of strings). And nobody needs to talk me into kevlar or poly... I would rather break strings than play with those uncomfortable nuisances.

    I know Ericsson had some issues with his 3800 so I don't know what to say. I really like the stringer and it was great right out of the box.
     
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  44. k_liu

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    I had a Eagnas Combo 910 for about 2 years and never had an issue with it. Strung about 20 racquets/weekly and tension was perfect every time.
     
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  45. Dragonhorse

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    Mine still going strong too. Reaching 400 sticks soon.
     
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  46. 000KFACTOR90000

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    I've got the plus 6500 crank and think it's great & can't imagine another brand being too much better, but have to admit if I ever decide to to go big and electronic I wouldn't go past Babolat.

    I reckon it's worth the price just for the advertising edge.
     
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  47. robstepp

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    How-To

    :shock:

    To remove the "String Girpper", you need to use a punch and knock out the silver/chrome pin indicated in the picture. The actual gripper will come out and it will come apart "common-sense" style from there. Be gentle, it has a set of pins sticking out of the bottom that plug into the base.
     
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  48. superstition

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    I've read many times that dealing with Maxline at their factory site is quite different (better) than dealing with them over the phone from out of state. I've also heard that machines purchased from the auction site dealer are not necessarily supported.
     
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