Eagnas Plus 8000 - OEM of Wilson Pro Tour?

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  1. ManuGinobili

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    My stringer owns a Wilson Pro Tour, the one used at a bunch of pro tournaments including the 2006 US Open

    http://www.photostringer.com/wilson_2006_us_open_01.htm

    And as I was checking out Eagnas machines, I was quite surprised to see the Plus 8000 model sooooo similar to the Wilson. Besides the PJ (obvious), LCD and the 5 pt vs 3pt clam, EVERYTHING else looks the same on these machines

    http://www.eagnas.com/plus8000.html

    For further suspicions, an RSI mag article on the Baiardo said it "was their first machine that Wilson was able to truly start from scratch"... and Lily Lee, the Taiwanese maker of Eagnas, also claims they do OEM for other companies.

    On the other side of the argument, the Plus 8000 has gotten only negative reviews on stringforum, while the Wilson Pro Tour is a finee machine from my exp.

    What do you guys think/ know?

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  2. Bud

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    I wouldn't purchase anything with Eagnas' name on it... regardless of how similar it appears to another machine :)
     
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  3. JavierLW

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    Im not quite as anti-Eagnas as Bud, but I dont see how these machines even necessarily look exactly the same???

    And even if they did, someone posted pictures of some Chinese company that made shoes that look just like Adidas Barricades, except they had 4 stripes instead of 3.

    Cheap knockoffs are probably more common in china, then finding the same machine from two companys.

    Besides, Wilson doesnt really develop anything original anymore, it's just as likely that they bought the design that was being used already, then it is that anyone copyed them. They'll buy anything that they can stick their name on if it will sell because there are plenty of people who will buy it because they are Wilson sponsor's.

    Look at the spring releases on the fixed base clamps. Those are totally Eagnas/Alpha... (they use them even on their smaller models with fixed clamps, I have them on the Combo 710)

    And just because it's used at the pro tournaments doesnt mean it's the best machine or worth the money.

    The base clamps I have are fine on my $310 machine, but I wouldnt pay whatever the heck Wilson is charging for a machine that has those clunky things on there...
     
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    Go to xtremesportsmachines dot com and check out the Pro master machine. They have supplied me service/ parts for my pro master, as I have the SAM pro Master, as Sam lost the distrib. for the machines and it went to xtremesportsmachines. The company that sold me mine, explained that the Pro Master was the same as the Wilsom you refer to .Xtreme verified this as well.
    By the way, xtremesportsmachines cust. service is great, as they took good care of me when my LCD screen went bad, and got me going in a decent amount of time.I did not even buy from them, and earlier they supplied me some parts at no cost, not even shipping, hows that for cust. service? Since you are talking electronics here, they can go bad after a while, and will Eagnas take care of you?? Keep that in mind. It may be different for mechanical machines but electrical components last only so long.If the touch pad goes, or the electronics, will Eagnas be there for you???
    I can't say much about the eagnas brand, although it looks the same, someone a while back stated that when he went to the eagnas warehouse he commented on the cheap electronics used on some of their machines. ? how true, could be knock off, as $ cuts somewhere to make less expensive, although I'm sure there are not many companies that make these things.
     
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    From the pictures that seems to be exactly the part of the machine that looks different. It's probably not the same exact electronics.
     
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  7. ManuGinobili

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    Are you saying that out of personal experience? The Eagnas and the 5800 ELS are actually my final two to pick from haha... I have only exp the Gamma and it is a great machine. Any input would be greatly appreciated :)
     
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  8. 000KFACTOR90000

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    Only from seeing the 8800 and owning an eagnas manual machine.

    One question I would have for gamma tech - Is the only difference between the 5800 and the 8800 the mounting system and base clamps?

    ie are the tension head electronics identical ?
     
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    From reading quite a bit around the forum, yes.

    Someone even said that you can get the 5800 AND the badminton mounting base for cheaper than the 8800.

    So, trust what others say or not, depends on you
     
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    Yeah I notice on another site you can get the 8800 mounting system and switch action clamp package for a reasonable price so if everything else is the same on the 5800 it makes it a really good deal!
     
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  11. Ash_Smith

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    You'll see that machine around quite a bit! Signum Pro, Ashaway, Wilson all have that machine (or at least the vast majority of its bits!) in their stringing machine line ups. I've seen a few others too but can't remember who they were.

    Cheers

    Ash
     
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  12. ManuGinobili

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    I actually just saw a Gosen machine identical to the Wilson, with the same LCD made up and all.
     
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    According to Brett, the difference between the 8800 and 5800, tension heads, are the keypad panels. The 8800 has a numeric pad, to enter tension, where as the 5800 has an up and down arrow.

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    The 8800 also has a Digital String Length Meter:
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