Eat WHITE Rice

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  1. ollinger

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    I posted in this forum many months ago that you are better off eating white rice than brown because pesticides (which may be carcinogens and, as they're mostly neurotoxins, are speculated to contribute to the development of Parkinson's Disease, more common in agricultural areas) found mostly on the hull of the rice are stripped off when rice is milled from being brown rice into white rice. Now, more reason to eat white rice. Consumer Reports writes about arsenic toxicity being a problem with rice, the arsenic coming from both natural (it's indiginous to much soil) and man made sources. Here as well, the arsenic is mostly concentrated in the hull that's milled off when the rice is turned into white rice.
     
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  2. r2473

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    In addition, brown rice tastes like crap.
     
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  3. Bartelby

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    Brown rice is a bit nutty and goes very well in salads but not much else.
     
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  4. Sentinel

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    What about organic brown rice ?
     
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  5. Sentinel

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    :shock: you've tasted crap !!! :shock:
     
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  6. r2473

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    Sure, I've had brown rice before.
     
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  7. ollinger

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    What about organic brown rice? Not necessarily better. Arsenic is found naturally in many soils and is thought to concentrate in the hull of the rice because of the way rice is cultivated, in flooded fields that create prolonged exposure of the hull to minerals found in the soil that leech into the water. And it tastes like crap.
     
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  8. Dedans Penthouse

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    She may be nutty, but I bet you'd eat condolezza rice.

    Me, I'd eat vanna white.
     
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  9. sureshs

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    Brown rice tastes like crap
     
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  10. NTRPolice

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    I hate brown rice. When I was doing my brown rice thing I had to make it fresh every day for me to even attempt eating it.

    Now I just eat non-whole gran carbs and I just eat green vegetables, whole almonds and mix insoluble fiber into my gatoraid when im at home. I would not suggest doing the gatoraid thing during a match obviously lol.
     
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  11. Povl Carstensen

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    Brown rice taste okay. And yes eating organic produce solves the pesticide problem.
     
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  12. ollinger

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    ^^ but not the arsenic problem. It's intrinsic to many soils.
     
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    I just dont eat rice at all.
     
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    ^ You play with a Yonex and don't eat rice? It makes no sense.
     
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    I'm a closet brown rice lover.
     
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    I like to cross lines sometimes. Really shake things up..lol.
     
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  17. bad_call

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    eat it regularly vs white rice but this arsenic thing has me thinking i'm toast. :shock:
     
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    The fam eats white rice anyways. lol
     
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  19. Povl Carstensen

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    Yes this is new to me. I would like to see some documentation and further information on this.
     
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  20. ollinger

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    Pay attention Povl!! I already told you the topic is reviewed in Consumer Reports, a source of unimpeachable integrity.
     
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    It will still contain some arsenic that is naturally occuring in the soil. But, I know of no evidence that either natural arsenic, or arsenic applied through pesticides, concentrates in the husk of the brown rice.
     
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    Couple things:

    1. According to the CR article the problem is not as much arsenic that naturally occurs in the soil as it is human arsenic pollution which accumulates in soil and water:

    Being in the soil doesn't mean it's natural, and being organic doesn't mean it's free of pollution.


    2. The Consumer Reports article also says this:

    There's no citation for that fact but it certainly sounds like arsenic levels will be higher in brown rice, and the chart included with the CR article seems to bear that out.
     
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    Chicken, andouille and okra Jambalaya?....Seafood Gumbo??.....Crawfish Etouffee?......GULLAH RICE??!!!....seek professional help PP. ;-)
     
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  25. Povl Carstensen

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    Yes and I certainly drink more grams water than I eat rice. Perhaps 50-100 times more. So I am not that worried.
     
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    Isn't arsenic known for it's preservative qualities? If you take enough long term you'll be mummified or something like that.
     
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    I had a bowl of organic brown rice for dinner. Very satisfying.
     
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  28. ollinger

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    ^^ That was dinner?? A bowl of rice has less than 5% MDR of a few nutrients, and a relatively small amount of protein. Not a very nourishing dinner.
     
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  29. Povl Carstensen

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    At least it was organic brown.
     
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    I lived for 3 months at Kaliehewai, Kaui, on brown rice, butter, cayenne pepper, salt, and pa****a.
    NO meat, no chicken, no fish, cheese once a week.
     
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    "I'm not some weird milky, ricey,. watery goop that you feed infants and old people. Maybe I would be, if you add some Cayenne Peppa!"

    :)
     
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    They used to use arsenic and arsenic derivatives as a agricultural pesticide/insecticide for well over half a century.

    Lets say for 40 years of inorganic arsenic derivatives were used in the same fields owned by some farmer. Add another 15 year of less-harmful-but-still-harmful organic* arsenic derivatives were used afterwards. How much would 50-60 years of continued use impact the soil? Would it accumulate given arsenic is a base compound and doesn't break down or would it dilute and get dispersed at a fast enough rate?

    *no not that type of organic, the scientific chemical meaning
     
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    When it comes to diabetes, and whole grains such as brown rice, something interesting and surprisingly that I've seen several times now in those that test their blood sugar levels after eating different foods, is that whole grains raise blood glucose levels just as high as the white refined version.

    A few articles with mentions about that ~

    "Can millet make you diabetic?"

    http://blog.trackyourplaque.com/2009/03/can-millet-make-you-diabetic.html

    &

    "What increases blood sugar more than wheat?"

    http://blog.trackyourplaque.com/2010/07/what-increases-blood-sugar-more-than-wheat.html

    &

    "How sweet it is!"

    http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/01/how-sweet-it-is/

    snippet from the article:

     
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    1. Legalize industrial hemp so that it can be used in crop rotation to help soil purge and recover.

    2. This is how you cook brown rice. It is delicious. http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/baked-brown-rice-recipe/index.html

    3. Consumer Reports has been disputed often enough in the past. For instance, in the past, their wine ratings were not done in blind tests by a panel, but by one guy who knows what he's tasting and could have his own biases/political connections like everyone else in the wine world. I've had problems with some of the info they've posted in their sunscreen, hair care and skin care articles as well. They are a good source for basic info as a jumping off point to more research, but I don't take them as the last word/only word on anything anymore.
     
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  36. Ronaldo

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    Eat Red rice with pink beans
     
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    Japanese rice is good, but not always available. Sometimes you just say "heck, I'm having chicken and beans without rice".
     
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    rice is yummy. i eat tons of it
     
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    That's why you're so big and fat - you eat too much rice.
     
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    i cant help it. my fat likes it too!
     
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    Lee, you often brag about how you're a physical wreck. I'm not sure that your diet helped you, but it is amazing how some people can thrive on a diet of only simple carbs.

    You need the vegetables and protein to help your joints heal.
     
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    I actually like short grain brown rice. These allegations are ridiculous much like drinking unfiltered coffee raises your cholesterol.
     
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    a number of studies, including one from Baylor about 5 years ago, and one from Belgium, demonstrate that drinking unfiltered coffee does indeed raise cholesterol, as much as 8 percent. Cafestrol, a potent elevator of cholesterol by virtue of a gastrointestinal mechanism, is removed from coffee by paper filters (along with some of the oils, unfortunately, that add some flavor).
     
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  45. Fee

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    so drinking coarse grind coffee made in a french press is bad for you?
     
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  46. r2473

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    On a cost / taste / ease of use basis, the French Press is by far the best way to make coffee.

    If this is all you have to worry about with your diet, I think you will be fine.
     
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    There is so much contradicting advice. My doctor told me to treat rice like sugar and go for wheat instead. This is also the advice many of my relatives have gotten. Now I read somewhere that wheat puts a higher digestive load on the body causing insulin resistance and rice is better.
     
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  48. r2473

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    The answers are coming soon:

    http://nusi.org/

    Hopefully in a few years, food will be stamped with a "NUSI APPROVED" symbol so we can take all of the crazy guesswork out of eating.
     
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  49. Boricua

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    Nothing better to eat in one plate: puertorrican red beans and white rice, sweet plantain (amarillitos) and avocado (aguacate). To drink, a nice, cold lemonade sweetened with brown sugar.:)
    PS: You can bring on some tostones or mofongo too.
     
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    Careful, you could be gluten-allergic. A lot of people here are, and the symptoms can be pretty indirect at times, so it's not evident. I am and wish I could move to rice and cut wheat altogether.

    Or you could try other alternatives to wheat that are gluten-free.
     
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