Effects of a leather grip

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  1. NoBadMojo

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    We thought it a good idea to Stickify a thread about leather grips. Here's some info..maybe more than you wish to process ;)

    -Leather grips are firmer than cushioned grips, and many feel as though that translates to more/better ball feel. Leather does transmit more sensation to your hand and beyond, but can also transmit more harmful shock so be careful about using leather on very stiff frames or if you dont have good technique. Personally I feel leather gives me more a feel of preciseness as cushioned grips almost seem to twist around a bit on me in comparison.

    -Leather allows you to feel the bevels more, and makes for more precise grip changes.

    -Leather may give you the feeling of a larger gripsize. This is because the leather is firmer and compresses less when squeezed. The thickest leather grip I know of is the Volkl, and the thinnest, the Gamma. The others I've used (babolat, wilson, fairway) all feel somewhere in between

    -Leather does add swingweight and alters the balance of a racquet, making it more headlight..how much? not a great deal, and depends upon which leather grip and ones' sensitivity to such things. I recall someone taking the time to actually precisely weigh the various leather grips, comparing to some synthetics, and maybe they can add to this sticky. I don't play by measurement, choosing instead to play by feel and performance. I have found Volkl leather grips to be the heaviest and Gamma to be the lightest, with the others falling in between. This matches the thicknesses as alluded to above

    -Fairway Grips? They're great but hard to find and expect to pay around 30 bucks or so for them. They are also less wide.

    -Tackiness. You will likely loose some of the feeling that your grip is secure with leather, and that's why many choose to use a thin overgrip over top the leather as you get the best of both worlds. In general, calfskin grips feel more secure and supple than regular leather

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  2. vascoboy

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    look great! but i don't like them...

    too uncomfortable, and slippery...nothing like synthetic, rubbery, sticky grips...curious how others feel about leather grips...
     
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  3. thejackal

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    i wouldnt play without one (i use overgrips over it). i like the extra feedback
     
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  4. TheSnowMan

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    I cannot play without one neither. The lower part of my leather grip feels significantly smaller than the top for some reason.
     
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  5. psp2

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    I love Fairway leather grips w/ a single layer of Tourna Grip. The bevel feel is the best!!
     
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  6. MasterTS

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    I love leather.
     
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  7. snoflewis

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    same here...i'd use it if my racket wasnt heavy enough already
     
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  8. kchau

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    leather pronounces the bevels a bit more, i like my bevels.

    leather + wilson pro, or yonex grap=heaven. especially when they are not stretched, its the perfect combo.
     
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  9. Duzza

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    They're really not that slippery. You get used to it.
     
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  10. Chang

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    They're a lot better with overgrip like Wilson pro or Yonex supergrap. tournagrip isn't that bad either.
     
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  11. Robbie_1988

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    They give me reassurance and peace of mind. I can feel the position of my grips more due to the "sharp" bevels so I know where my hand is.

    Feel is also great with a Wilson Pro Overgrip/Tourna Grip over it.
     
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  12. frayed

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    Just trying to figure out which leather grip to select based on thickness. Plans are to put Tournagrip over the leather. Looking to add some extra feel and slightly larger than normal grip size overall. Any thoughts?
     
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  13. mhstennis100

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    I put 2 Babolat leather grips on my N6s and slapped some tournagrip on, feels so much better than with the stock replacement grip. Those are the only 2 leather grips I've ever used so I'm not sure how they compare to other leather grips.
     
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  14. aroddick

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    the lower part of the grip is smaller becasue you hold the bottom part of the grip most of the time. So its compressed.
     
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  15. tennis_nerd22

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    agreed :) lol
     
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  16. pNoyr3D

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    Hm.. Sounds great!! I am going to get leather replacement grips for my racquets and probably going to buy Yonex SuperGraps for overgrips, hope it's as good as it sounds :).
     
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  17. federer_nadal

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    leather grips are great, what is not great are huge big blood blisters from using hard leather grips that pop all over your white grip and spray slightly onto your face while serving as it did to me last night.
     
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  18. BiGGieStuFF

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    Sounds like yo'ure holding onto her too tight.

    Just Hold On Loosely, but don't let go
    If you cling to tightly,
    you're gonna lose control

    -38 special
     
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  19. Ripper

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    Even, better than leather is the synthetic grip that comes (or used to come?) with Yonex raquets (not the perforated one). What makes it so special, to me, is how, extremely, thin it is. The problem is, Yonex USA doesn't bring it :mad: So, now, I'm trying to get them from Asia and/or Australia.
     
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  20. WhiteSox05CA

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    So if I'm plannin' on using an overgrip what would you guys suggest? I don't really need the tack or durability since I'm always gonna use an overgrip.
     
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  21. armand

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    Plain+simply, I thought leather was thinner than the average synthetic. Leather sure makes the grip feel smaller to me.
     
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  22. WhiteSox05CA

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    Which one offers the best feel of the ball??
     
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  23. Borat

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    HOw is Wilson's Leather? Volkls? ****?
     
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  24. rasajadad

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    The Wilson is about the same tackiness, thickness, and weight as the Volkl. I would put them on the middle of the tackiness scale with Prince Pro at the high end. Babolat on the low end.

    Never tried ****.

    Wore through the original leather on my PK's in a year- lost their tack.
    Wore through Babolats quicker- fell apart.

    Am currently using orig. PK (Redondo mids), Prince Pro (love the stripe), Volkl, Babolat (on the Ki5 PSE's).
     
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  25. kerplunker

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    where can i get head calfskin grips?
     
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  26. Pisolino227

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    This guy is right!
     
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  27. gonzalocatalino

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    i have previously played with leather grips, but always with racquets that have them directly from the factory (Pogs, pc600, ps6.0, ncode tour, HPStour 95...), so, i never had really felt the difference...(i mean, playing the same racquet with both syn. and leather):
    Today i put Prince Leather grips (with tourna overgrip) on my 2 Volkl Tour 10 gen2, and the difference is AWESOME. I am extremely happy with the change, i can feel much more the bevels, and the ball feel is extraordinary: makes my racquet MORE CRISPER (if that is the exact word to describe it).

    comment apart: Those prince grips are considerably ticker than the syntetic grips, it makes the gripsize, at least, 1/2 size bigger.
     
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  28. MasterTS

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    I've been tryin to get my RDS001 to be around 12.28oz with a leather grip and have been struggling. I've wrapped babolat as tight as possible and also wrapped gamma as tight as possible.

    Some people here claim that gamma is the thinnest leather and that gamma is the lightest leather. Well first hand experience using a digital postal scale accurate to the .1 gram says otherwise. The gamma leather is just about as heavy as the babolat. I haven't tried the Wilson leather yet.
     
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  29. stormholloway

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    People have been saying Babolat's leather is low quality but I love it. Volkl's is great, and I find Wilson's to be tacky but thin.
     
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  30. WhiteSox05CA

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    Can anyone compare...
    ****, Volkl, or Babolat?

    I'm gonna get some of these. I couldn't find a good Fairway anywhere.
     
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  31. gonzalocatalino

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    Prince leather increases 1 size the gripsize

    As i mentioned before, a few days ago i put prince leather grips on my Volkls (Tour 10 Gen. 2). Today i measured the gripsize because it feels bigger:
    The Original grip was a Volkl 4 1/2, with the original sin. replacement. Now, with the Prince Leather plus a Tourna overgrip, i measured 4,85 inches\ 12,2 cm., and thats bigger than a 4 5/8!! (a 4 5/8 grip is 4,625 inches).
    So, if you are thinking on those prince grips, be careful. I personally can use perfectly the bigger gripsize and, in fact, i like it more now...

    sizes appart, the grip es great...
     
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  33. BiGGieStuFF

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    and????????
     
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  34. jcstennis

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    You can find Fairways, but you will pay a bunch for them...

    I have specs on the Bab and the ****... is that what you a re looking for? I have not played them yet, i am looking myself, but both of those companies emailed me the specs of each grip.
     
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  35. WhiteSox05CA

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    Yeah, I found some Fairways- for the same price as an **** one- for like $20. I was thinkin' about just getting a Babolat because it's light weight and cheaper. I go to NY a lot, so maybe next time I'm there, I'll stop by **** and pick one up.

    Also, what's the **** synthetic-leather grip?
     
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  36. jcstennis

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    Straight from Babolat: weight 25g / 0.85 oz.... length 45.3 in... width 26mm... thickness 1.7 mm (0.07in) .. with adhesive on back

    From Roman: "Grips are 47” long, a hair under 1” wide. They are beveled (burnished) in such a way as to allow wrapping flat, grooved, righty or lefty. That is really why I even made them, other grips did not allow all these options. I have some without sticky tape (leather only), I have some with the sticky tape on. Weight around 25g (+ or – 1). Cost per grip is $20 plus shipping."

    The Vantage brown leather is 21g.

    I think the **** syn/leather is that it comes in colors??? Email Roman and ask, cool guy!
     
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  37. Chauvalito

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  38. Chauvalito

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    Wow, I was not aware that leather grips weighed close to over 20 grams.

    Does anyone know if the same is true for Wilson leather grips?

    I am contmplating adding leather grips to my m-fil 200 2006's to increase the weight, they are a bit light.
     
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  39. Chauvalito

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    Wilson or Babolat? whay do you prefer.
     
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  40. jcstennis

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    i recently demo'd a K-factor with Wilson leather... it felt coarse, so i overwrapped it.

    I remember the Fairway on my StV PS85 and it felt a lot nicer than the Wilson, i OW'd that also. :grin:
     
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  41. Octavian

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    leather grips are probably the best replacement grip you can buy...gives you so much feel especially underneath a overgrip... i put it on my babo it has so much more feel
     
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  42. WhiteSox05CA

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    I just bought an X-tra long Pacific tan leather grip. It seems pretty thin. Nice though.
     
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  43. ps60

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    $$$ for leather

    only leather i've used was the orignial on my Dunlop Maxply. gave me lot of water bubbles.

    No $$$ to buy a new Leather, i use 2 over grips.

    i dun like the new Wilson TL foam so much, i throw it away. Use a thin technifibre overgrip over some leadtape, heavily overlapped and cover only the lower part of the grip, and then a very very thin Kimony overgrip covering all the Grip on my Volkl.
    Feels better than Leather ! i mean it. :grin:
    Just not sure if i 've put enough mass to compensate the wt of the original. :confused:
     
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  44. rafa_prestige89

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    Is it possible for me to buy the Head Calfskin Leather grip???
     
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  45. Tennis Man

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    I love the leather and put it on all my frames that didn't have it, mostly Yonex and new Head frames.

    My favorite is Fairway, followed by Wilson, Babolat and ... Gamma.
     
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  46. LarougeNY

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    Yeah, I want to try leather but don't know which one to get. Money isn't an object (unless its >20$) I just want to have a good, defined, durable, and not too hard leather grip.
     
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  47. OnyxZ28

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    Yes, Roman at **** sells them.
     
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  48. rafa_prestige89

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    Is there an online shop for me to buy them??
     
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    do you have to staple the bottom
     
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  50. tenniskid3119

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    im still kinda new, what do you mean stickify?
     
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