Elbow problems and routine.

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  1. theparade

    theparade New User

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    For those who have read my last post, here is my revised routine:
    Link to previous post: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=2117716#post2117716

    I just realized I have tryouts (basketball) in a month, so I'm just really, just getting into shape using this routine and like my beginning goal, jump higher.

    Step 1: Light run, around 500m to warm up the muscles. Or Bike 2:00

    Step 2: Dynamic Stretching

    -swing arms in circles
    -arms side to middle
    -squat cross, squat cross
    -Knee hug then lunge
    -twist side to side, opposite knee down

    Step 3: Jump rope for 10 minutes/Bicycle for 3:30

    Step 4: Sit ups 20 x 2 and Pushups 20 x 2

    Step 5: Stationary Bike 6:30

    Step 6: Calf Raises (50 each leg) then 20 both

    Step 7: Lunges 15 x 2. Sit ups 15 x 2 and Pushups 15 x 2

    Step 8: Jump tucks 20 x 2 and Jump taps 20 x 2

    Step 8: Sprint 600m all out

    Step 9: Run lightly and stretch.

    Now I have a problem, for the pushups in Step 4, man...my elbow cracked 5/6times in a row and then it went away. Then when I went back to Step 7, cracked once or twice in Rep 3-6 then went away again. Should I do some stretchig of the elbows? By the way, it's both elbows. The bicycling I'm doing is at around 23-24-25 km/h, mostly cardio and working that quad. I like the Jump tucks and Jump taps, feels good.

    For the jump taps, being 5"6 and having a reach of 7"1.5, I'm touching a spot 1 foot taller, but I plan to add a touch.
     
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  2. theparade

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    Just did some pushups today again, again.. crack. What's wrong? Help guys.
     
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  3. SystemicAnomaly

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    Are you experiencing any pain or discomfort in/near the elbows when this happens? Any loss in range of motion? At the very first sign of any of these occurrences, see a physician.

    If the cracking sound particularly loud? Is the sound happening at the top or the bottom of your motion? I get a soft cracking sound sometimes in the elbow or shoulder, but it doesn't really concern me very much -- it seems normal for my age. It also happens for very young athletes like you. Quite often it is just the movement of ligaments or tendons. Sounds, like pops and cracks, have also been attributed to normal air or fluid movements in the joints.

    Try experimenting with hand positions to see if it affects the cracking sound. When executing your push ups, try it without locking out your elbows at the top. See if this this makes a difference. Have you noticed elbow cracking with any other types of triceps exercise?

    If you think that standard push ups might be bothering you, try a modified version. Try them with your hands on a bench or counter top. With the hands in a higher position like a table or counter top, you can try a variation of a plyometric (low impact) push up -- push away from the counter on the up phase, letting your hands come off the counter. As you come back down and your hands make contact again, cushion your descent by bending your arms.

    For less stress on wrists, elbows and shoulders, you might try the Perfect Pushup. Check out the recent thread on this: tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=183051
     
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  4. seb85

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    I have the same cracking in my right elbow when doing push ups. I shouldn't worry about it too much unless it's causing you pain. Clicking or cracking is usually the body's way of realighning tendons/nerves that are in the way...
     
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  5. theparade

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    No pain during the excercise and after. I can also hear a sound from my shoulder, but just very faintly. The elbow cracking is not when going down, it is when coming up. It's mostly the left for some reason, and then the right for 1/2 reps.
     
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  6. theparade

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    Aw crap. I can't edit the post.
    The elbow cracking sound is pretty loud, it's a loud crack. Like how loud people crack their knuckles.
    For the shoulder, it's just like a shift, I doubt anyone could hear it but myself.
     
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    Does the loud elbow cracking happen when your perform the motion slowly or when you perform it rapidly? Does it happen if you do not allow your elbows to lock when you push upward? Have you tried other triceps exercises to see if the same thing happens?

    Try the push ups with your hands fairly close together. If you keep your elbows in, you work the triceps more. If you do it with the elbows out, you focus more on the pecs rather than the triceps. Does this make a difference?

    shapefit.com/triceps-exercises-pushups-close-tricep-position.html

    If the sound really concerns you then it might be best to ask a doctor about this. It might be very pronounced because your body is still growing.
     
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  8. theparade

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    It happens if I do it fast/slow. No difference. However, if I don't go to the top of my situp to the top, there's no cracking sound.
    I tried the tricep dip and if I do go to the top and lock my elbows it cracks, but if I don't no problem. For when I do it hands closely together, again, if I lock the elbows it cracks.
     
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  9. theparade

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    Yesterday..when working out using the routine when I didn't go the top and went smoothly no sound.
     
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  10. stormholloway

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    Yeah, don't lock out. Also, to save the shoulder, avoid having the fingers pointing straight up. Try them facing away a bit.

    My right elbow pops loudly too. I find that this feels kinda good actually. The clicks and pops in the shoulder worry me more. Make sure you understand how the rotation of the arm affects the shoulder joint.
     
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  11. theparade

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    Anyone know why you aren't supposed to lock the elbows? Is it just me or does this happen to most?
     
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    SystemicAnomaly G.O.A.T.

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    According to this site:

    " ... if you let your arms become completely straight (lock your elbows) your weight is supported by the bones (skeletal structure) of your arms rather than your muscles."

    From this, it follows that you'll probably get a better workout if you do not allow the elbows to lock. When working with very heavy weights (while weightlifting) in an explosive manner, it is possible that locking the elbows or knees for certain exercises can be detrimental to the joints.

    Don't know if most people will notice much noise when locking the elbows on a push up. However, quite a few people on the internet have had an experience similar to yours when they completely straighten their arms with this exercise.
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