Entering Pro Tournament. . . .at 37

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by CAM178, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. CAM178

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    As the title states, I am entering a pro tournament at the ripe old age of 37. Yes, I am a bit 'mature', but it should be fun. I have a few weeks before the tournament starts. Keep in mind that it has been 8 months since my last tournament, and even that was only a national Men's 35 tourney.

    My plan for this thread is to update as often as possible. You will see firsthand what it takes to prep for a pro tournament, from start to finish.

    Right now I have not had any cardio for at least 4 months, I am a few pounds (literally) overweight, and my game needs a few injections of WD-40, to say the least.

    My expectations? Yes, I know that I am going to get my ass kicked. Trust me, I know that. But I just want to see what I can do in a small window to prepare. I've played as high as 5.5, and I still wasn't playing to my full ability then. I just want to see what I can do if I give it my all. I might even throw in a few videos if I can remember to do so.

    Follow this thread if you need a regular dose of humor. I work a 70 hour a week job, so I will be trying to train on top of that, and I have no playing partners, as I just moved to this area. Oh, and I travel 40% of the time.

    Saddle up: it's going to be a fun ride. :mrgreen:
     
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    Good Luck!
     
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    Good luck mate - I will be following with interest!
     
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    Reporting for duty, sir. Good luck, I'll be following with interest. The old boys do have some life left in them still...
     
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    No matter the outcome, you get to cross another item off of that "Things to do before I die" list.

    Good luck bud.

    J
     
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    I think I need a couple more excuses and caveats before I can fully get into this story.:mrgreen::p
     
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    Thanks, guys. The funny thing is that I don't know if I'll even get into the tournament. I entered, but obviously the kids with rankings and future promise take precedence. And keep in mind that I will only be playing qualies. If I won a single round that would be cause for celebration. Let's just hope I don't pull a muscle or have a cramp while celebrating.

    My training today has started with me shopping on e b a y whilst drinking coffee. I know that this is going to be a scary day, as I see stars when I get up from sitting down. Holy crap am I out of shape.

    There is another benefit to writing this thread: it helps motivate me to get up off of my lazy derriere and go do something!
     
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    This is really the only reason I'm doing it. I have a long list of things I want to do (holy crap: I just realized that at 37, I am starting to go through my 'bucket list') before I die.

    More than anything, I just want to know how good I really am.
     
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    Well, GOOD LUCK for sure....
    The GeorgePlimpton of tennis, eh wot ?
    I tried some qualifiers at 27, after 3 years of tennis. Hope your experience is gonna be as fun as mine was......
     
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    Good luck Man. I am very interested in this thread. At 37 years old as well, I am playing some of the best tennis of my life - even after an 8 year absence from the game that ended this past summer. I'm not quite at your level, but I'm getting there. Age is just a number. Train hard and give it your best.

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    Is there a pre-qualifying open tournament to get a spot into the qualifying?
    The ones near where i live are like this.

    Best of luck! get some video footage!
     
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    I never knew they had pro USTA tournaments, a real pro tournament is ITF..
     
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    When I worked 70 hours a week I didn't even play a local league!
     
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    As stated, I will be playing the qualies, if I even get into that. All of this might be for naught. Regardless, I will play a Futures this year, even if it's down in Mexico.

    I entered the tourney through ITF, with my IPIN.

    RE:70 hrs p/wk, I will obviously have to cut that down. It's a new job, so I'm still working out the kinks, but I will start to work smarter, not harder.


    Summary of today (so far): went to hit against a backboard today, and the strokes were actually decent. I expected to be spraying quite a bit, and for the strokes to feel really weird. But it was pretty encouraging. My knees started to hurt, but that's probably being geriatric and no exercising.

    Now I am headed to the gym. Going to swig a bit of java before heading out, but I have got to hit my cardio pretty hard, and start easy on the weights.

    Parting prayer: God, please do not let me pass out on the exercycle, or have the bench fall on my chest because I am too old and weak to raise it back up.
     
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    The International Tennis Federation (ITF), the governing body for tennis on a worldwide basis, introduced an apprentice-level Circuit for men in 1976 and for women in 1984 in an ongoing effort to provide young players with an avenue to the international game.

    Today, there are more than 375 men's ITF Circuit events and 350 women's ITF Circuit events held annually in 80 different countries around the globe, including China, Iran, Kenya, Lebanon, Liechtenstein and Vietnam.

    The USTA, the national governing body for tennis in the United States, is one of more than 200 national federations that are members of the ITF. Through the USTA Pro Circuit, which it owns and operates, the USTA stages the largest number of ITF Circuit events in the world. This year, players from more than 50 countries will be competing in 96 USTA Pro Circuit events for $3 million in prize money.
     
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  18. maratsafin5

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    You have videos of yourself playing?
     
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  19. J011yroger

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    Not to mention the fact that none of the slams fall under the umbrella of the ITF, and one in particular (I can't remember which possibly Wimbledon or the French Open) is held by the USTA.

    I would think that most folks knowlegable on the subject would consider the grand slams to be professional tournaments, but hey.

    J
     
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  20. saram

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    Very interesting. I have thought about the same thing and I'm almost 40.....:)
     
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  21. woodrow1029

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    If you are playing a futures, then Jackie T. Stephens is correct. You have to register with the ITF for an IPIN. This is an ITF futures on the USTA circuit.
     
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  22. CAM178

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    Nothing serious. I have a vid on here, but it's me serving, and not serving very seriously. Someone started a thread about serving over 100 mph, so I recorded myself.

    If I can get some serious vids of myself this week, I will.
     
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    Update: training is going to be light today, if at all. I lifted weights last night for the first time in a long time, and I'm a bit sore. After the gym, I went to a friend's house to watch the UFC fights, and next thing you know, I had had way too good of a time. I am paying the price today.

    I will make it into the gym for cardio and lifting, but no tennis today. That's actually better for me, anyway, as cardio and strength are what I need.
     
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    Wait until the doms hits tomorrow.

    Welcome back to the world of pain big fella.

    Anyway I suspect you are a sick ******* like me who actually enjoys it when you wake up the next day and feel like someone took a bat to your abs, and you grimace walking up stairs.

    I was in the womans section of a sporting goods store yesterday (TW censor blocks it out, but another word for your tallywagger) and I saw a nike t-shirt that said "Training is the opposite of hoping." and I was like "Right on!"

    J
     
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    Just wondering CAM and J0lly, were you guys some Godly juniors back in the day? Or did you guys play for fun when you were kids, and then climbed up the NTRP ranks?
     
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    I've never taken tennis seriously. I've been ranked decently (top 10, etc.), but I've never been able to walk away from a tournament before and say 'Man, I gave that my all.' Usually I give up in the semis or finals. In other words, I've been a bit of a head case when it comes to tennis.

    My goals for this year are simple, and it all depends on my ability to compete in tournaments due to work. But my goals are:
    - top 5 in state in age division
    - top 25 nationally in age division
    - win a round of qualifying at a Futures event
     
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    Yep, this is pretty much where I'm at. I"m in a bit of pain, but I know that if I don't hit the gym today, that I'm really going to hurt tomorrow.

    Pain is good. The Marines have a saying, and I live by it: "Pain Is Weakness Leaving The Body."
     
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    My HR from out of seat 60 sec bike intervals today were 182, 186, 191, 192, 185, 186. Legs were shaking for a good 15 mins afterwards. Made me feel good about that beer and chili that I put down tonite.

    Just food for thought so you don't get shown up by some 26 year old punk.

    Although I would bet that you wouldn't have too much trouble putting my 115lb bench to shame ;)

    J
     
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    I played from 4-17, and blew out my shoulder at 17, couldn't lift my arm above paralell to the ground for 6 years. Came back to playing at 23.

    My parents didn't care about my tennis and I was taught by my grandfather who was a very high level open player (His son, my uncle, was a teaching pro, and outstanding college player, worked with Tracy Austin for a bit). Since my parents didn't support me, I didn't play juniors, but I was competitive with most solid Jr. players, but not the elite ones. When I was 14 or so I got to hit with college kids, and mostly played against adults or my friends when I wasn't playing for school. I just played every day because I loved it, loved competing, and being "The Man", never really had any plans of greater things, because I was basically oblivious to them.

    At my best as a kid I wasn't outstanding, not a DI prospect, but if I wasn't hurt I could have latched on with some DII or DIII team. Basically I was one of the best kids around my small area, but got crushed by the elite juniors.

    I grew 3-4 inches since high school, and lost some weight aswell. So when I came back to playing at 23 I changed my entire game to fit my new body, and the current times.

    But missing 17-23 and never really having been supported I never got to play to my full potential, so now that I have the opportunity I just want to see how good I can get.

    Basically I am a never was, trying to become a has been before it is too late.

    J
     
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    The gym gave me a bit of a scare today, as I felt pain in my right knee again. Not good. That means that I have to lay off of the cardio for a bit, so as not to reinjure that knee. What's weird is that this happened on the exercycle, but I do go at it pretty hard. So 3 months no exercise, and then a massive onslaught to that area. . .probably not too wise. I can't help it, though. That's just how I roll.

    Looks like a week of solid wall and wall drills. Probably for the best, really, so that I don't injure my main strength: my speed.

    Going to be interesting trying to play whilst traveling. Aye-yi-yi.
     
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    J -

    You and I are definitely of the same mold.

    If/when you make it to Minneapolis, we'll have to meet up and grab a brew.
     
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    good luck man - i hope you do really well and i'll be reading :)
     
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  33. BounceHitBounceHit

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    Good luck Cam! :)

    My pal, who was a former ATP Top 200 player and ACC champ in college, played the qualies for the local ATP event 6 months after his fortieth birthday. He split the first two sets w/ his 22 year old opponent, and was up a break in the third before sucuumbing 7-5. He later told me he had decided not to go all out in the last few games of the third because he knew there was no able he would be able to play his next round match the following morning (too beat/sore/tired). ;)

    So, it IS possible Cam.

    Best,

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    Absolutely.

    I'll let you know.

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    Update:

    Holy HELL is my body sore today. I am hurting in places I forgot that there were muscles. Putting deodorant on was a herculean task, and I'm sure I looked like a student from a special education class whilst trying to do my morning routine (brushing teeth, deodorant, etc.) Oddly, my legs feel good today. I think I've gone at this too hard, coupled with little sleep, so I think my body needs to get rebooted. I just need a couple of nights of good sleep.

    Due to work commitments, I will not be playing any tennis until Thursday. Based on the shape of my muscles, that might not be such a bad thing. I will hit the gym tomorrow night, but my body needs to recover. Man, getting old kinda sucks. :mrgreen:
     
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    Warned you about the doms.

    :)

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  37. Rob_C

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    The ITF does run the Slams, as well as Davis Cup and Fed Cup.

    The ATP/WTA run the other tournaments on the main tour.
     
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    Jackie, respond to the junior forum on Tennis Europe
     
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    That is what I was thinking of, that the slams weren't ATP.

    Then my pea brain said they weren't ITF either.

    My bad, thanks for setting the record straight.

    J
     
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  40. Julieta

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    It's definitely possible for a player like that. Anyone who gets that high has some serious game and that never totally goes away, even if they are out of form and can't move the next day. Ay, to be one of the special ones!
     
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    On a whim, I entered a money tournement a few months ago, and got a terrible beating, 0 and 0. I could not beleive the high quality of players that showed up for a $2K first prize. The finals was like a challenger level match because the two guys had ATP points.
     
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  42. BounceHitBounceHit

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    Yes, and trust me he does have SPECIAL game! ;) CC
     
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    Same thing happened to me a few years ago with about the same prize money level. I played the #8 seed in the first round who was #2 in the state of Florida. I was stoked that I won 1 game!
     
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    A couple of years ago Gene Mayer played the Challenger in Hawaii and won his first round match, and he was 44 at the time. Of course, Mayer was top 5 in the world at one time. Since I'm one of the only guys on this board who has actually hit with CAM178, I'll give you an idea of his game, last time we hit I'd say he was a solid 5.0 player, very smooth strokes and sick touch. He's one of those guys who looks like he's not really trying, effortless. The question will be whether he can stay healthy and not get injured...
     
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    5.0 is a very good level, but I think it will take more to earn a 'W' in a pro tournament, even at the Futures level.

    Still, I admire Cam for lacing them up and giving it a try. Truth is, it is bound to be fun, and a great experience. The ONLY way one improves in tennis is to play tennis, and the better the competition, the faster and greater the improvement. ;)

    Go Cam!

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    Afterthought: To put this all in context, my pal used to simply POUND players who were younger, 6.0 level players well into his late 30's and early 40's (he's now 50). CC
     
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    What sort of playing style did he have? I'd be interested to know whether it was his style of game that gave them trouble or whether he just did what they did but better.

    It would have been good to see a few of the reactions!
     
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    Excuse me for grabbing a dog by it's ears - but if Jolly comes to the Minneapple i'll buy the first round, as I owe him big time for taking those pics of my boyhood home in Oakdale Long Island & we'll make it a tall one.
     
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    We'll bless everything in sight until we get verschnickered!

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    For the ignorant (ie myself, et al.), how do you enter a "pro tournament" (and what exactly is one?) and what is required to enter?

    Thanks!
     
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