ESPN Skip Bayless states, Roger Federer WIN was a HOLLOW Win, won by Default. LOL

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WAS FEDERER WIN AT FRENCH OPEN A HOLLOW WIN?

Poll closed Sep 6, 2009.
  1. YES, Roger won by Default, Skip Bayless knows what he is talking about

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  2. NO, Roger beat whoever was there in the final. and Skip is a numnut.

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  1. Fedace

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    ESPN columnist Skip Bayless stated during the show on Monday that French Open win by Roger Federer is and was HOLLOW. because Nadal was out and lost to Soderling due to Knee injury, the win didn't mean as much. and He goes on to state, Federer won by "DEFAULT". LOL:shock::)
     
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  2. autumn_leaf

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    guess he's just a ****.... not fed's fault that nadal couldn't make it to the finals.

    most people been wondering how long nadal's body would hold up with his style of play. hope he comes back though.
     
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  3. tahiti

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    Lets just say Roger got lucky as the commentators said....the angels had been on his shoulders all week...coz it was not as if he hadn't struggled with matches against players other than djoko, nadal and murray
     
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  4. Fedace

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    And Skip also stated that IF Rafa was in the finals, Roger would have NEVER have beaten him.
     
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  5. nikdom

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    You're not Skip Bayless are you?
     
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  6. Sleepstream

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    Skip Bayless is a real life troll.

    I'm quite sure ESPN pays him to troll the sports world.
     
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  7. Fedace

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    Skip Bayless is one of the Most respected reporters in ESPN. and he is not SHY to express his opinions. I heard he makes ton of money from ESPN.
     
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  8. mandy01

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    who cares?! :roll:
    The tourney is over..Roger's the man who won seven matches.Now there's nothing his sour grapes can do.
     
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  9. Breaker

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    Who the **** is Skip Bayless? And what connection does he have to tennis?
     
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  10. BigServer1

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    Skip Bayless is a hater and he's paid to do so. Bayless has a persona that works for the show that he's on, and he expresses extreme opinions all the time.

    The guy thinks that LeBron James is AWFUL, and he loves to take stances like this at all times. I've been ignoring him for years.
     
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  11. vtmike

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    Q: Who will be a runner up at RG?

    Not surprised by how much you like this article... :lol:
     
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  12. yung goon

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    hes right though. he cant beat nadal at rg.
     
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  13. Telepatic

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    +1 10 char
     
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  14. vtmike

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    LOL...The same question popped up in my mind first too...
     
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  15. malakas

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    I don't know who this "journalist" is but he has just lost all credibillity to my eyes.ANY sports journalist who knows his job,realises that you can only defeat the one you get to play.
    Espn sucks anyway.
     
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    Bayless is a former Dallas Morning News sports columnist who got run out of town for making a (false) allegation about Troy Aikman's sexuality. He's not exactly known for being a serious journalist.
     
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  17. Fedace

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  18. Chadwixx

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    Espn + tennis. Nuff said

    If their experts are clueless what do we actually expect from their non tennis ppl?
     
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  19. lawrence

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    Why do you sound surprised?
    Remember, ESPN like to show serena replays over live mens matches.
     
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  20. BreakPoint

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    Then how did Soderling beat Nadal? :oops:

    And Federer is 10-0 versus Soderling. :-?

    Enough said.
     
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  21. malakas

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    the amount of admiration and respect Fedace shows for this journalist is the best proof of all :)
     
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  22. mental midget

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    i think it's fair to say that anyone who considers themselves a champion at RG, who didn't do it by beating an in-form nadal in the final, is suffering from delusions of grandeur.

    guga? kafelnikov? agassi? the great borg, even? certainly, none of these players triumphed over nadal to earn their name on the trophy.

    honestly, i don't think it's going to far to call into question nadal's four successive wins; who, exactly, did he beat? he surely never came up against a player of the caliber of . . . himself.
     
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  24. huskersak

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    His win versus DelPotro was very solid.
     
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    according to whom? He was laughed out of the Dallas Sportsmedia scene and his style is to issue provocative contrarian statements and bask in the negative attention he gains by issuing them. Show me all the people that respect Skip Bayless, they don't exist, he is and has always been a first class *** clown.
     
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  26. fantom

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    You are exactly correct.

    His views are always extreme and bordering on ridiculous.
     
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  27. All-rounder

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    Due to a knee injury?? :confused: it wasn't considered an injury after nadal had lost and when the tournament was over
     
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  28. Philsthrills

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    I was watching when Skip said this. If you were paying attention he also emphatically stated that Roger cannot be Nadal on clay and has not done so this year. They even put a graphic up that said that Roger was 0-1 on clay vs. Nadal in '09. His credibility went out the window with that statement (Madrid?).

    Skip is a sports journalist which makes him a "Jack of all trades, master of none." Nobody who is serious about tennis should put any stock in what he says.
     
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  29. woodrow1029

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    Skip is always an idiot!
     
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  30. Giggs The Red Devil

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    Bayless’ statement is anti-sports, kitsch-loving and ratings-driven. He wants the big drama. Fine ,but that’s not how it usually goes.

    Isn’t there enough of bad TV already?
     
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    It didn't mean as much as it would have meant to beat Nadal in the final. One can't disagree with that. The Sod-Fed match will not be remembered as a classic for the ages, a choc of the titans or an epic the way the Wimbledon or AO final will be. That's the tradeoff: against a lesser opponent, it's easier to win but the victory will not be treated as an unforgettable feat, it will be worth less.
     
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  32. samster

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    Skip Bayless is a commentator. He gets paid to make comments.
     
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  33. jamesblakefan#1

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    Skip Bayless is the worst of the worst. Troll doesn't even describe this idiot. He knows NOTHING of tennis, he called Soderling "some 23rd ranked guy" while praising Nadal, guess he forgot who beat Nadal. This idiot deserves no credibility, his opinion is less than 0 in my book. Just google the guy and you'll see how hated he is.
     
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  34. NamRanger

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    Bayless has extreme views, and because of that he is paid on ESPN to contrast the views of other "conservative" analysts. He occasionally makes good observations, however he has made very big dud observations also. Such as when he said the Detroit Lions under Kitna would make the playoffs, the Cardinals were the worst team ever to make the playoffs, LeBron James sucks, etc.
     
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  35. FuriousYellow

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    Why stop there? Let's invalidate every championship won in every sport where the two best challengers were not involved in a final.
     
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  36. NamRanger

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    I honestly think 20 years from now, no one will really care. I can't even remember HALF the opponents Laver played to win his slams. All I know is that he won 2 grand slams.
     
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  37. raiden031

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    Exactly. If Fed's RG title doesn't count, then NOBODY'S RG title should count because every single winner out there did not have to face Nadal in the final. Just as its not Agassi's fault that Nadal was not a pro when he won, its not Federer's fault that Nadal got eliminated early on, whether it be because he got blown off the court or was injured. Fact is, Federer showed up and won the title, Nadal did not. Nobody else showed up to win the title either.

    I'd like to see Skip clueless stand out there with no racquet while Federer is serving bombs at him. Then lets see what he thinks of Federer.
     
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    You don't make sense once again.
     
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  39. DarthFed

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    Well said

    /topic
     
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    AO was considered epic? I think the FO 2009 is epic in a different kind of way. No, the match did not last into darkness and it did not go until 9-7 in the 5th. There were no rain delays, but to me it was like witnessing history. I think that's a pretty big deal. I'll actually remember the match for a long time because it was one of the first times on this board, that nadal fans and fed fans actually managed to get a long for a brief period in time. Now that is what I call epic!
     
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  41. coloskier

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    Then I guess he is overpaid. I wonder what he thought about Sampras winning the USO without facing his nemesis, or Borg winning Wimbledon without facing Connors or McEnroe? These examples are no different than Fed not meeting Nadal. It wasn't Fed's fault that Nadal got beat by someone else.
     
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  42. Ronaldo

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    Hear this from the horses' mouth or arse?
     
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    As it had been said by thalivst (sp?) A slam is about winning 7 matches in a row, Roger Federer at the end of the two weeks was the one to accomplish it. Besides Skip Bayless is an idiot does anyone even count him as a valuable source. He is right up there with that dumb women who ruined those Duke Lacrosse boys lives and now attempts to try to cover it up by jumping on the kill A-Rod bandwagon. ESPN and SI are full of so much trashy idiots that I think they pay just to anger people.
     
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  44. BreakPoint

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    "Worthless"?? I think not.

    It's the title that matters and the only thing that matters. Does anyone remember who Rod Laver beat to win his two calendar Grand Slams or do they just know that he won two Grand Slams?
     
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  45. nikdom

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    So why did Nadal lose to the "lesser" opponent?
     
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    I thought he covered football. I pretty much know nothing about him but a few of my football fans (I dont really follow it much, just casually a bit) talk about him and what he has been saying regarding alot of the NFL players. He sounds like a clown to me though.
     
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  47. wilsonplayer

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    the discussion that feds title is insignificant or marginalized by not beating Nadal is absurd. long after skip bayless and everyone else is dead and forgotten, no one will look upon Feds achievement as "not good enough." His name is inscribed in the books as a 14 Grand Slam winner with a career slam. Period.
     
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  48. ninman

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    Yeah, because the fact that Rafa is being forced to pull out of Queens and is in doubt for Wimbledon means that on Sunday he would have been a force to reckon with. What an idiot. Nadal would have been creamed by Federer.
     
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  49. ninman

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    It should also be worth noting that in Federer's 19 finals he has faced a total of about what 11 different opponents. Nadal has had 2, and even then he still had to play Federer in the semi's.

    Playing a variety of different players only shows how good you are, and how versatile you are. Nadal playing the same guy every time means that he was only able to beat that one player who he "owns".
     
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  50. hammer

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    Skip Bayless makes a living by taking the minority stance. A lot of times he will take the controversial point of view just because it's controversial. That was basically his deal when he was writing for the San Jose Mercury News and when he was on KNBR radio (in San Francisco) before moving to ESPN. I've always felt he was a phony, but at least an entertaining phony at that.
     
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