Fall tournament draws

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  1. TopDawg

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    I don't get Emilio Gomez - he passes on the Indoors to play a Challenger in Ecuador, loses in the 2nd round, comes back and plays in this Southern Cal tournament and goes out in the Round of 16 to a depth player from UCLA that primarily plays doubles only.
     
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  4. TopDawg

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    That makes the Gomez result a little more reasonable, still not sure why he didn't play in NYC though
     
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    I admit to being an idiot in every post I've made in this thread
     
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    tired of hearing ""injured Novikov"" every player play even when they are not 100% .. so how long does it take a twisted ankle to heal 100% ? Roddick wore those ankle support for so many years.. but I can see where Novikov can lose to Grant .. the guy doesn't know how to hit a clean passing shot.. not too many college players can ,especially when they are under pressure .. that's one of the major difference between college and pro level play..
     
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  7. tball2day

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    wow, right there with you on this one...that excuse card has been played too many times, weak. If you know the players, they will tell you every top guy out there is playing injured to some degree. If you are really injured you aren't playing.
     
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  8. ClarkC

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    I am not a UCLA fan or a Novikov fan, so I don't have a personal interest in making excuses for him. I have just observed that when a player takes significant time off for injury, he is not too great in his first tournament back.

    SoCal10s has a personal issue with Novikov, expressed quite a few times on this board, so I don't expect him to have a rational opinion on my original post.
     
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  9. tball2day

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    I think you mentioned his other "first match back" last month:

    And his injury excuse has been thrown out here for months, maybe by more than you, I certainly noticed the pattern as well long before the last posts.
     
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  10. SoCal10s

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    I just wanted to see Grant get some credit instead of putting an asterisk behind his win..
     
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    I have noticed that Virginia fans use the injury card more often than anyone. If they see one of their players get hit with a ball lightly in the back during warmups they think "Yes! an excuse when we lose now!"
     
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    I cannot verify this. All the Virginia matches I've been to in person have been wins.
     
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  13. theSportsGuru1117

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    You clearly haven't made a trip to the NCAA Tournament then...
     
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  14. SoCal10s

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    ouch......
     
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    How about an example?
     
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  16. tball2day

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    It's not a Va problem, it's a chronic problem that starts in juniors. One kid wins, another loses and one side inevitably says, he/she had an easy draw, hard draw, was sick, was coming back from an injury, had the flu, had a bad flight, bad nights sleep, big test, blah blah blah. It's not good when as socal said, people put an asterick by a player's win because of excuses. Somebody played better, that's all, everyone is dealing with something at some point. Strong players don't want/use excuses. It's weak.
     
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  17. floridatennis82

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    Tball2day do you struggle with counting? The first time they "threw out the injury card" was exactly 3 weeks ago in Irvine were he lost his 1st round to Jonny Wang, he since then didn't practice for 2 1/2 weeks and hit for 3 days before playing the tournament at UCLA.. and this would be the 2nd time he has "thrown out the injury card". Also he never threw anything out he himself hasn't said anything, hes just trying to get back into playing and playing matches after not playing for almost a month.

    and regarding you Socal10s


    "tired of hearing ""injured Novikov"" every player play even when they are not 100% .. so how long does it take a twisted ankle to heal 100% ? Roddick wore those ankle support for so many years.. but I can see where Novikov can lose to Grant .. the guy doesn't know how to hit a clean passing shot.. not too many college players can ,especially when they are under pressure .. that's one of the major difference between college and pro level play.."


    are you being serious right now? Why do you comment on things you have no clue, it was his first ankle sprain and it was severe. His ankle was swollen for 3 weeks and when he played in Irvine it still was swollen. The swelling wasn't all gone till a week before the tournament at UCLA. My personal favorite comment is "this guy doesn't know how to hit a clean passing shot" have you ever seen Novikov play? He has some of the best passing shots. I mean of course he can't hit clean, he only beat a guy 80 in the world and went 4 tight sets with a top 25 guy, and the 80 guy who he just beat at the open just beat 4 top 20 guys at the Masters including Murray... so yea go tell your stories to people who don't have a clue about tennis maybe they will believe you, you have a hatred for Novikov forever. Get over it, why do u hate him so much that you just want him to always fail? Don't be jealous of him because he has done so much more than you in tennis and your still sitting on your butt in front of your computer talking trash about him. Get over it.
     
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    When Drew Courtney "stepped on a ball"

    When Julen Uriguen "got hurt training in Guatemala"

    When Domijan "sprained his knee"
     
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  19. tball2day

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    Lot of data about him, new user, and quite defensive when point was we shouldn't use excuses for anybody.... hmmmm.
     
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    I don't remember Domijan spraining a knee, or Julen getting hurt in Guatemala. I do remember Drew Courtney getting injured before a dual match in Mississippi on our spring break trip last year. The fact that he was pulled from the match and we almost lost the match as a result might be an indicator that he really was injured. :)
     
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    Courtney stepped on a ball in the Wake Forest match in the NCAA Tournament and aggravated the injury from the Mississippi match. He was dominating the match at the time, and suddenly he went down in a heap. When he got back on the court after the injury TO, he was serving flatfooted, and could barely move. I don't recall him winning another game. That was the final singles match in his NCAA career.

    And everyone knows that the 2011 team was much better with Courtney playing at #5. Without him, then-freshman Justin Shane had to play #5, and was overmatched in the late rounds of the tournament. It's not an excuse, it's a fact.
     
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  22. floridatennis82

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    I'm not really sure what your trying to imply but... yea I do go to UCLA so I do know a lot of info. I don't know him personally but I hear a lot of things.
     
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  23. ClarkC

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    The Mississippi incident was in 2012, and everything else you mentioned was in 2011.
     
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    What did you think of the Tyler JC Berkowciz win over Richmond at the Indoor? Then he got rolled in the consolation singles. Oddly he and Domijan won a couple of decent matches in doubles. Was he hurt, bad tournament, any inisight?
     
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  25. ClarkC

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    Sounds like Berkowitz is a good player. Every opponent is tough at the national indoor tournament. It is only a 32 draw. I don't really expect Harrison Richmond to be in the top 32 in the nation at this early point in his career, so I had no particular expectations that he would win any matches there.
     
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